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Ray_r
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just finished installing the Buell Race Kit. Ok..well....I had to piece it together from various dealerships because we all know how hard the kits are to get these days. Anyway, the air filter is installed. The Race ECM is in place. And the muffler is on. My question is this: Can I ride the bike to the dealer for the TPS reset? Or do I need to trailer it? I haven't started it yet in anticipation of the possible answers. Thanks!
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44mag2
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Start it up. If it seems to run OK, then I would ride it to the dealer. Just pick a time when you don't have to worry about sitting in traffic on I-5 or 217 (your profile says your are in Aurora OR)

Of course I have never installed a race ECM, but if it seems to run ok, it should not hurt anything.
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Chris_in_tn
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode my bike about a 2 months before I had mine reset. Mine ran fine. However, I have heard others their bike was nearly unrideable after the race kit was installed.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine would not run at all...It would start...idle like crap...touch the throttle...it would just die...I put the stock ecm back in, rode it to the dealer for recall work and had them install the ecm and reset tps. It runs GREAT now!
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it is a crap shoot
Some will run, others will not
See what it does and then decide
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Ray_r
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a plan. I'll fire it up.....tomorrow.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

do not ride it 2 months without getting reset though
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Ray_r
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well....I couldn't wait until tomorrow....although I guess it's tomorrow somewhere. It fired up, but won't run. Looks like I'll be trailering it to the dealer for a TPS reset.

(Message edited by ray_r on September 24, 2006)
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Paochow
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why go to the dealer? If you have a laptop or PDA, call up Daves or American Sportbike and order a VDSTS. Al Lighton's instructions are easy to follow to do a TPS reset yourself, and once you use it a few times it pays for itself.
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Ray_r
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK....I'm a willing learner. How easy to follow are the instructions? I guess to guage my mechanical ability, I was able to install the kit myself with no problems. And I can spell PC...so I guess I'm somewhat computer literate.
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Aeholton
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al Lighton from American Sport Bike wrote an excellent set of directions for it. I dare say they are fool-proof. Get the software, it pays for itself.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Race that mutha.
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Paochow
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very easy. It took me all of 10 minutes to do and that was taking my time. Read this page for the down and dirty. It is actually less complicated than it seems, but Al Lighton did a very complete write up.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/142751.html
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Whitj
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

44mag2 & Ray_r
Just read your thread. I have the VDSTS kit, a black (the fast one) XB12x, the race kit installed and time to reset the TPS/AVF for free. Don’t know what the dealer gets but I’m sure it’s not free. Oh, by the way, I live in Lake O. Drop me an email if you want.
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Whitj
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS. Reset to the AVF and the bike is a new animal. Just got the latest patch for VDSTS and did it to mine. HOLY S$%T!!
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Lorazepam
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do mine every couple thousand miles. It is easy to do, and makes the bike run great.
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Paochow
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anything special to do for the AFV reset? Do I just click on the Air Fuel Value button and then run it at ~3000 rpm down the highway for 10 minutes?

Thanks
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Lorazepam
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just run it at 3500 for a few minutes, and all is good. I dont think it needs 10 minutes.
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Ray_r
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whitj - Thanks for the offer. But I already have the kit from Al on the way. I'll send you a note if I get stuck during the process and need advice/help.
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Whitj
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problem Ray_r. You'll love this kit. Works w/ a PDA too.

Paochow, run bike in 5th gear steady between 2500~3500 for 3 to 5 minutes. Works like a charm. Be warned, when you reset the AFV and start it for the first time after the reset, it will idle very erratically. You may have to manually hold the throttle until the bike warms up. Once it is up to temp it SHOULD stay idle until you do the 5th gear run. It will continue to idle strange until you complete the 5th gear run. After that, the ecm is set and your on your way. Oh, one other thing. Once it’s set, hang the F**k on. Its was a new bike for me. My seat of the pants dyno was off the chart. The AFV was obviously way off on mine & I did not have a clue.
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Glenn
Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Whitj,

Just looking for a clarification of your method please. You say "Once it is up to temp it SHOULD stay idle until you do the 5th gear run." I don't have a way to reset the AFV and then immediately do a steady 5th gear run. What happens if you have to go a few miles of a little stop and go before you can do it?

Thanks
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Paochow
Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorazepam & Whitj: Thanks for the help. I'll probably end up loading up the laptop and taking the bike to a freeway rest stop, reseting and then hopping on the freeway. I'd have a hard time doing a steady 3000 rpm in suburbia.
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Ray_r
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I gotter done. It certainly took me longer than 10 minutes, but it wasn't too bad. I had a little trouble connecting, but Al's instructions helped me through that. I reset the AFV while I was in there, and based on what I've read here. The only real issue I had through the whole thing was trying to find and adjust the throttle thumb-screw. For those looking, it's that chrome looking knob between the air-scoop and the engine. You can see it from the front of the bike. And I think mine had lock-tite on it or something. It was a real bugger to get moving. But it did indeed loosen up after some effort. And it's held in place with a zip-tie? Seems a bit cheesy. But I guess it does the job.

So I took the bike out for a spin. I live in the country, so I was able to do the 3000 rpm thing down my road for 3 min, then had to stop and do it again for 3 min. Then another stop and I was good for about 10 min. I re-adjusted the idle, and all seems well with the world now.

That VDSTS kit is a real hoot to play with. I'm amazed at the information the bike communicates with the laptop. I guess I'll get bored with it soon enough, but in the mean time, it's like playing video games against the Uly! : )

(Message edited by ray_r on September 30, 2006)
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Davo
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ray r,

What is your stored AFV now? (engine off, ignition on)

You may need to down load the latest update if your version does not have AFV as a channel.

Thanks!

Davo
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Ray_r
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Davo - I downloaded the latest update before I did the resets. I did not record the stored AFV though.
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Davo
Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am curious what it is now after your "learn" run.
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Paochow
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reset my TPS and AFV on a freeway pull off the other day and ran for about 10 min @3200 rpm. Runs nice and strong now, found myself running at under 2000rpm since it now runs very smooth.

On a stinky note: Not sure if it is related or not but I have noticed the Uly will smell up the garage with a gas smell after being parked from riding. Is the hot frame causing the gas fumes to vent? Anyone else have similar issues?
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Davo
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is probably the fuel residue perking off the muffler after shut down. Not all of the unburned HC's go into the atmosphere some are always saved for the garage.
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