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99savage
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 06:36 pm: |
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2006 Ulysses - 20,000 miles - No issues until ~2 weeks ago though there was some random hesitation at highway speeds. Chalked it up to being an old-man but while riding home tonight speedometer and tach dropped to 0. Did not stall, no lights came on, continued to run, and after about a second they started reading normally. For the rest of the trip home there definitely was some hesitation at seemingly random intervals. Idle seems steady & strong. - Acceleration seems strong. Where to start looking for what ails it? |
Britchri10
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:06 pm: |
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Battery, Stator, VR, 77 connector. I'm not a mechanic but these would be a good starting point. Chris C |
Ishai
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:22 pm: |
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Start with the easiest- remove the the windscreen and lights and look where the 2 ground wires are attached to the steering stem- chances are you will find at least one separated from the crimp , maybe both... or just a loose screw . If all is well proceed to what Britchri said, also check the fuses, make sure they are properly seated and are functional... |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:43 pm: |
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Also check the wiring bundle that comes out from under the flyscreen and goes under the frame. You have to seperate it and run each wire through your fingers, as the copper inside breaks but the insulation doesn't. Any of the wires can break and do no end of odd things. |
Tootal
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:50 pm: |
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Start with Ishai's suggestion. Don't just look at those ground wires, grab them and move them around because sometimes they break under the insulation. Then go to Reepicheep's suggestion and if you don't find anything do yourself a favor and get rid of that plastic wire cover. Just wire tie the bundle to one of the bolt holes in the frame. Leave it a little loose so it can move a little. |
Luftkoph
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 07:55 pm: |
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seat hitting the ecm? |
99savage
| Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 09:28 pm: |
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Started the above checks * Grounds by the forks = OK (Just redid them a couple of weeks ago.) Then, . . . then, . . . then checked the connections to battery. Work of advice here guys, Interstate batteries ROT, big time. Instead of proper tapped holes they have little cagey gizmos that hold a captured, non standard, metric square nut. - Then to make things perfect the face of the cagey gizmos is below the face of the case - soooo - You have to put a lead washer under the cable connector. Did not have a lead washer for the negative side but went ahead anyway. - worked for a year. Check the main power, cable connection = Solid Check the torque on the screw = tight Wiggle the black grounding connection = loose The terminal on the power cable was digging into the case. Loosen everything up, square nut falls under battery. - Dig out square nut, use toothpicks to hold it in place. - Holding the grounding terminal while tightening screw, it breaks off. No terminal connectors the right size, no heat shrink the right size. Hit the auto parts store tomorrow and continue down the check list. Thanks for the help & thanks for listening & Interstate batteries ROT p.s.: What is the check for the ECM. Made some bumpers to protect it and don't THINK the seat contacts it. - Did not see any cracks but maybe. And Never, ever buy an Interstate battery or be in the same room with an Interstate counter person. (Message edited by 99Savage on June 04, 2013) |
Motorbike
| Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2013 - 09:54 am: |
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What do you mean by "ROT"? |
Etennuly
| Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2013 - 10:56 am: |
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Looks like you are on the right track. These battery connections can cause all kinds of stupid things to happen. The ECM plug connector will looked like it is cracked loose from the case. It is not attached to the case, but it runs close and that is where a crack becomes evident. Sometimes it helps to unplug the ECM and rotate the plugs one turn(in the looser direction) then reinsert it. This changes the juxtaposition of how the wires in the loom lay across each other. I found mine had a couple actually rubbing through their insulation that became wire to wire. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2013 - 12:12 pm: |
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Interstate batteries ROT, big time. Energizer motorcycle batteries aren't real great either; check my recent thread. They use the same cheeseball attachments you mention here. |
99savage
| Posted on Friday, June 07, 2013 - 06:48 pm: |
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Apologies for the belated thanks, been busy working to assure that our handsome, young President has sufficient funds to run over my taxes 2X this year, instead of the typical 1X/ Got new screws for the battery from the hardware store; stuffed the cagey gizmos on battery full of aluminum foil to keep the non-standard, metric nuts from falling out; pulled & reversed the fuses & eyeballed the ECM one more time. Started & ran fine for at least a short run, but then again it usually did that previous to the problem. Waiting for a break in the weather to make a longer run. |
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