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Kalali
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Given the great deal you got buying the bike, it it were me, I would have just bitten the bullet and gotten a new carb and called it the day. Hopefully you will get this all sorted out before throwing in the towel. The good news is you should have no problem recouping your investment if you ever decide to "downgrade" to another bike. All the best.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


"just another motorcycle"

Those are odd words to hear on this enthusiast forum. Be careful, this whole site might implode if you say that sort of thing too often.


Glad Nick found someone to accurately diagnose and it sounds like properly repair the carb. Free help is good, but sounds like there were too many chefs in the kitchen on this problem.

Ride safe once you've got it going Nick. The S1 is kinda like the "Holy Grail" of Buell ownership... except there's more than one... and it won't give you eternal life... and all that...

But the S1 is a pretty sweet bike, as far as Buells go... even though it has it's quirks like many other Buells... and it won't make you live forever... but besides that...

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Guell
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The just another motorcycle was a jab at zaphof, the whole post was weird to me, I like all the tubers, each is special in its own way.

Hopefully Nick and I can get this slightly modded stock exhaust on and get him back on the road soon!
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol thank you all for the wonderful post's since i posted last! , last i heard about this carb is he bought and put on the spring assembly and was shipping it back to me either thurs or today . Yeah after all the repair cost's and different people i could have just bought a brand new carb and called it a day, i guess kind of a new motorcycle rider newbie mistake. I know now not to let just any fool touch my bike by going the cheaper route, i diff. will be taking it to dealerships/shops to get anything done unless me and Guell can get up : D anyways i do love my bike im not going to throw in the towel : D but after the new rebuild kit, and new spring assembly it shoudl be a brand new freakin carb when it gets back to me. anyways yeah Guell i know i keep talking about it but will have to get up soon to get that exhaust and muffler cant wait to actually ride with ya sound like a really cool guy and think we are close in age? but anyways all your post's are great put a smile to my face, thanks all! love these forums!

-Nick
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Gmaan03
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah I am new to Buell too. Had my X1 worked on my JT&s Performance because I never worked on a HD motor before. When I got the bike back I asked Jim how hard HD's are to work on. He laughed and said EASY!. CRAP!!!!! All I ever heard was "Special Tools" and "very touchy" when pertaining to HD motors.
Well we all learn things the hard way some times...............


P.S. JT&S did an outstanding job, no complaints, and the guys are way cool.
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Harleyms
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never touched a HD engine until I brought home the S1W a month ago....did a whole top end, replaced the jugs, rebuilt the carb......got it legal today and managed to put a few miles on it before it starts raining again....They are loads easier to work on than a jap bike ; )
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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hellraged (Nick). It is good you have someone helping you out. If you need someone with Buell specific knowledge check the B.R.A.N. on this site (you have to be logged on to see it) or find a group in your area (I did not check to see where you are at) in the Storm Fronts. While it is helpful to have someone help that knows bikes it is ten times more so to have someone that has owned a tuber. Some of the worse messes I have seen is a XB rider trying to work on a carb of a tuber. But like everything else it was fixable.

Hopefully you will have a lot of fun with it. I have had a few tubers and always enjoyed being able to read the service manual, do the work myself or check the badweb and do the work myself.

Carbs are not that difficult and are worth learning how to rebuild as you will want to do that every so many years anyway. Carbs, cables, clutch adjustments, intake seals, isolators, proper (not in the manual) belt adjustment etc are some of the basics.

Just remember that anything you need to do to the bike has been done by someone on the badweb and it is no problem to get help.

Ride safe and welcome to the the best group of Bueller around (tuber riders).


Frank
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey all!

Well the shop finished up my carb and sending it back to me tomorrow (friday) so hopefully i will get it back sometime next week!! hell yeah cant wait lol, they said they couldnt find the grommet anywhere so they took a grommet off a buell on the showroom floor lol but anyways they said they tuned the carb on a sportser so hopefully when i get it back i can atleast ride it without it putting down the road !! :P im excited about it , about time is what i say lol hopefully everything goes good and i can go down to meet Guell and get that exhaust and muffler put on anyways talk to yall later, and again thanks for your support and comments :P

-Nick
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HELL YEA! lol got my carb back today, works better than ever! no skipping or sputtering and rides like a dream , looks like my patiance paid off im so glad its what its suppose to be, planning to drive to my parents house tomorrow morning when traffic is real light first trip outside my neighborhood! any tips? : D
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

erm , posted a post but guess it didnt post lol if i double post im sorry, but HELL YEAH! my bike if fixed! lol carb came back, works like a dream! im so freakin happy now lol, drove it down the street no sputtering no skipping and i opened her up and is excellent, going to be driving to my parents house tomorrow morning when traffic is light is basically a strait shot there about 45 mins, no turns just strait and easy any tips? going to be my first time out of my neighborhood thanks!
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Guell
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nick, good to hear, let me know when you want to get together
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will do man, if i make it to my parents house tomorrow lol that means ill be riding my bike to work all next week, can prob. meet up next weekend man if im riding it all good, wont put myself out there unless i know for sure i wont make any mistakes lol well atleast try not too :P be safe for everyone on the road including myself , email me sometime i been depressed lately because of the bike but now im like a new person haha later man
--Nick
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey all :P , made my first bike ride outside my neighborhood today! drove about 100 miles or more , was excellent found out the tires where almost flat! so when i got to my dads house i pumped it up and it drove 10000 times better going around turns and corners , but everything good problem solved! thanks everyone!

-Nick
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Kalali
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know if you took the safety course or not but they have a "Pre-flight" checklist in their handbook that is excellent. I strongly recommend reviewing the list before EVERY ride. Tires is the on the top of that list...
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

na cant afford the safety course right now : ( but will be taking it soon. but now after riding to work today for the first time, riding my bike seems to come natural but im not over confident of course , i still am thinking in my head that all cars are out to keep me and i drive speed limit. However i do got one question, after i park my bike for the day and next morning i do notice alittle bit of red fluid on my right side rim , just alittle. Is it hydralic fluid? im going to take it to a shop sat. but just wondering. but other than that, im putting miles under my belt now and im REALLY loveing it!

-Nick
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Front or back? I'd guess at leaky fork seals if it's the front.

It's fairly normal to have them replaced every so often. It can make your front end behave funny if they get bad. That's oil too, so make sure you wipe it off the wheel, and spray some brake cleaner on a cloth to wipe off your brake disk if it's getting there. That's definitely not a part you want "self lubricated".

MSF uses the letters "T-CLOCS" for the pre-ride check list.

Tires- Pressure, tread, cracks/dent's damage to wheels, bearings, and brakes.

Controls- Levers (not broken or bent to interfere with operation, should operate smoothly). Switches, cables, hoses, throttle (also should operate smoothly).

Lights (and electrics)- check for working head and tail, and brake lights especially.

Oil and other fluids- Level and leaks (you know to check oil with engine warm, since it will drain down into the case and give a incorrect ow reading if you check it cold, right?)

Chassis- Suspension (leaks? fouled linkages and such), drive components (belt - cracks, torn teeth, excessive wear)

Sidestand- Smooth operation, retracts fully.

Also from the handbook - "A pre-ride inspection should not take more than a few minutes. If done before every tide, it can help you identify changes before they become a problem."

I know sometimes it just comes down to money in vs money out. But the things I learned, and eventually taught in the MSF rider courses saved my bacon more times that I can count, seriously. There is too much you just don't know you don't know, until you learn it.

Make it your next priority (now that your carb is fixed), you may not want to spend the money now, but a crash that could have been deterred may end up being a lot more expensive in the long run (consider time lost from work in addition to your repair costs and pain/discomfort from injuries).

PM your address to me and I'll send you a handbook for you to read in advance of the class. I think I've got one that's not all marked up.
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah fixing it this weekend if it dont cost too much money. i will pm you now thanks little!
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Guell
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nick, im about to do mine, its about 40 bucks in parts.
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ahh so 40 bucks eh? sounds like a plan, will do mine sat then, you going to dealer? or yourself, prob. yourself lol but how much should a dealer do it for? not a harley dealer either lol
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Guell
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A guy down here in the lowcountry did my friends xb forks for about 160 I think. I'm doing mine myself, id be happy to lend a hand if you want to tackle it yourself
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Hellraged
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

erm, could save some money and learn something at the same time, im willing to learn if your willin to teach :P im good at following instructions, just tell me when you wanna meet up :P
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The estimate I got from my local HD/Buell dealer was ~$275 just for labor to do the front forks.... The parts including new springs would put it well above ~$450. Of course I ran as quickly as I could specially since I can get a brand new set for ~$280 shipped to my door. In my own made up difficulty gauge, I would rate it a 6 in degree of difficulty with 1 being an oil and filter change and 10 as rebuilding the transmission. This is assuming you have the right tools. YMMV.
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Hellraged
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damn aint that a bitch... where to buy forks for a 98 s1 arent they all absolete?
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well you can get brand new X1 forks (inverted 43mm Showa) online for $250. Could probably just retrofit to an S1(inverted 43mm WP). I thought you were just going to replace the seals?
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Hellraged
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i called around to harley and other shops around my area (if im not going to do it with guell) but just to check the priceing , there all said around $250 dollars to get them fixed, now i found a pair of S1 forks brand new on ebay for $250.. which would be best to do? get mine repaired or just buy new forks? like i said that is if me and guell dont hook up and get it done? thanks!
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Zaphof
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DIY is the best option if you can get some help from another kindly Bueller.
Even if you were to buy the new forks, you would still have to fit them and there is a cost element to this if you are not capable of doing it yourself.
This is all part of the journey.
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nick, we will either rebuild them or ill help ya put new ones in, its pretty easy to do that
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...there all said around $250 dollars to get them fixed..."

Just out of curiosity, what did they mean by getting them fixed? I'm guessing that is for just replacing the seals. Like said before, the effort involved in getting the forks off the bike and on a bench and back on the bike accounts for a good portion of the total effort. And that's where a second pair of hands is a big plus. Once you have the forks on the bench the rest is just following the manual step by step and meticulously take things apart in the right order and replace the components without ending up with extra parts...
I would personally go with a new set if I were happy with stock spring rates.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 for doing it your self!

It seems more difficult than it really is ,but take your time for it and/or take pictures from the disassembly.
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dropping forks is a piece of cake, there's a guy down here in the lowcountry that will rebuild them for about 160 I think
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