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Aodh69
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can I with a maintenance manual do the 10,000 mile service myself or should I spend the $600 and have the shop do it?
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Gamdh
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do it yourself..

You'll save money and you'll know its done right.

My '06 has not been to a dealer since the warranty expired (over 2 years ago). With the SM and BadWeb....you can do it and you can get lots of good advice.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10k service - Oil+filter change, primary fluid change/inspect chain slack, spark plugs, tps reset, fork oil.

Oil and filter can be done in minutes, hardest part is taking the chin fairing off.

Primary chain - takes only a minute to drain. Pain in the ass part is checking the adjustment on the chain, but nothing major.

Spark plugs - Pretty easy, but it requires a little futzing around due to it being cramped behind the rear cylinder.

TPS reset - 5 minutes with a laptop and ECMspy.

Fork oil - Not worth the hassle, skip it unless you got the resources to pull off the forks.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aodh69, you can do it. This group, Froggy's great pictoral on engine/primary oil changes, and great input on tools I'd need helped me start servicing my bikes. The tools don't cost much and you'll always have them. Get the service manual, ASK questions(hey, I asked a TON of them, many times every day for a while and the guys were GREAT!), and do it yourself.

I agree fully with Froggy on the fork oil. I've always had my bikes done at 20,000 miles, as have my friends, and all has been good.

If I can do it you can. I now have all the tools I need and I've already, in six months, saved a bunch of bucks on two services. In addition, I know my bike much better than I would have. Good luck.

(Message edited by buellerxt on May 10, 2010)

(Message edited by buellerxt on May 10, 2010)
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Itileman
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dealer here wants over $1,000 for the 10k service. I'll do it myself, own some tools and have enough left over for a 2010 rear wheel and a set of tires.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does that $1k service come with a "happy ending"?
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Ronmold
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Couldn't one siphon most of the fork oil out of the top with a small hose and a vacuum pump and then replace that exact amount with fresh stuff? I wouldn't think you would have to get it all, it never really gets that hot so breakdown from oxidation & moisture ingress from crankcase breather action is not a factor, nor does it get combustion blow-by. Come to think of it, why even mess with it at 10k!
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Itileman
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does that $1k service come with a "happy ending"?

I'd get a "free" bike wash and a "free" loaner to ride.
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Brucen
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think the problem is oil breakdown, it is contamination. After seeing how my right side fork oil was noticeably dirtier than the left side oil I go ahead & do changes at the specified intervals. I buy an extra bottle of oil and use half in each side to flush things out.

With the work it will take to open up the top of the fork & stick a hose down in it, you may as well go ahead & pull them & do it right. You'll probably leave most of the dirty oil in the fork & risk damaging something when you are poking around in there.
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Aodh69
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everybody I will do it myself!

I used to own a 98 S3T and it never saw the inside of a dealership, but I have to admit I am a little intimidated by my Uly.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh ok, it will be pretty similar. Same crap, just harder to get to plugs : )
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does that $1k service come with a "happy ending"?

that free loaner to ride? She would have to be pretty damn good looking for that kind of money!
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