| Author | Message | ||
     Pontlee77 |
Any one got the answer to this situation? Thanks, | ||
| Portero72 |
Gonna have to be a bit more specific on that one....Like, what exactly is the bike doing? | ||
| Thunderbox |
1906 or 2010 bike, what model, under what circumstance. Going to be tough without info even for the best of them. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
I thought there was a post some where about this, the symptoms: Hot or cold, fast or slow speed, doesn't matter it just cuts out, if i turn the ignition off and on it will fire up straight away, if i do it with the right hand button it will fire up again, so no need to stop. if i have a bit of speed. it happened while cruising at constant speed or in different speeds. Thanks. | ||
| Nwforester |
Exactly the same problem I had with my 08 uly. I now have an '09 with no issues. Not sure my dealership ever found out what was up, they finally swapped me out. There was no pattern what so ever. It would not do it every ride either. IAC was replaced, among other things. | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Sounds kind of like a problem with the tip-over switch (shuts off the engine if the bike falls). Pre '08s had an issue with the switch and Buell ended up relocating the switch to the back of the bike. I don't know if there was an associated recall. Other brand motorcycles have had similar issues. Mark SE AZ | ||
| Nwforester |
They tried replacing BAS on mine, did not work. I know that was the boards primary idea when I was having the issue. Worth checking though. | ||
| Etennuly |
You are describing what happens when the BAS fails. It will not restart without re-cycling the ignition, either with the key or right control kill switch, right? Then it will fire right up either with the starter or letting the clutch out, right? If so, from the many times mine did it,('06 on its third BAS, replacing one after remounted to the rear)the random cut-out/switch cycle/restart, was the test for the BAS failure. They could not make mine do it in the shop. | ||
| Florida_lime |
Etennuly is right, except I wouldn't say "when it fails" -- more like when it gets pissed.  I put up with mine doing that for about 2 years and 25 -30 "quits" before finally changing mine out for the spare I had bought a year earlier. I only installed the new one while trying to eliminate the source of my Skip Spark BS. | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Thanks, my bike is a 2006, the bas was changed of place, but that mod took quite a bit of space out i was using to have some bits and pieces so a friend had the same situation and we returned the bas to its place and made a little bit of mod to have that space free, also from the extra conector of the bas he made an electronic gadget that will work emulating the bas making a constant voltage, i just have one last question, did the failure code appear or it never showed up? | ||
| Florida_lime |
Never a code for mine on that issue. I don't think the location makes much difference -- my '07 has always had the BAS in the tail area. | ||
| Etennuly |
No code on mine either. But then it would not trip a code because it's function of shutting the engine down, is it's normal function. The computer would have no way of knowing that it did not tip over. The second one that failed in mine was likely the result of it being in the original position for some time. After they did the recall, moving it to the back, it failed months later. The last one has been good for over 30,000 miles thus far. A very useful device in the case of a tip over for limiting damage and pain. | ||
| Ratbuell |
So let me get this straight - you had the BAS moved to the tail but didn't like it there, so you moved it back to the shock yourself and are wondering why it is acting up? *sigh*... Put it where it belongs, THEN look for a problem. | ||
| Portero72 |
I'm with Ratbuell on this one. Reversing a recall item yourself, then adding homemade electronic gadgets to make it work seems like you made a bad situation worse. Put the BAS back where the DEALER put it, wires and all, and see what happens. sigh... | ||
| Bzrider |
my 07 did he same thing you may try accessing the ecm wiggle the connectors slowly see if i cuts out i thought i had a bad sensor turns out it was a bad ecm board . | ||
| Pontlee77 |
i'll try out the bike with the bas emulator piece and see how it rides, and if i have the erratic failure again, then i can look else where. Thanks for all the tips, i'll start first step, and then follow different ideas of what can be the failure, and if i find out , i'll post the answer. Many thanks to all. | ||
| Towpro |
I might be wrong, but I thought they moved the BAS because water was destroying them? By putting them in the tail section they are not exposed to road water. | ||
| Thunderbox |
I thought I had heard everything but I guess I haven't. | ||
| Thunderbox |
Originally the BAS was under the seat and it was relocated to the rear of the bike. | ||
| Ratbuell |
My take on the relocation wasn't water, but heat. I think the cooling fan blowing hot air directly on the BAS was what was causing malfunctions. Not that it seems to matter here...no advice is being taken anyway. *shrug* | ||
| Towpro |
I admit I have never seen the original location of the BAS, I thought it was outside exposed to the environment. Now I stand corrected. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Nope, originally installed near the rear shock, still inside the tail section. I want to say close to the fuse box? Look at the wires - the fix included a simple extension cable from the original plug/location to the new location in the rear. Trace the wire from your BAS forward. Where you see a connector...that's where it used to be. I can pull my seat when I get home - now you got me wondering! | ||
| Fordrox |
as much as I hate to make myself look dumb, I have to ask... what is a BAS ???? I could throw a guess of Bike Angle Sensor, but I would'nt bank on that. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Pretty darned close - Bank Angle Sensor. i.e. "if I tip over, I turn off the engine" sensor  Curiosity got the best of me. From the recall instruction sheet, original location:  | ||
| Pontlee77 |
Did a small ride with the device that emulates the BAS seems all works fine, i'll have to do a few more rides to confirm if this is/was the issue. |
