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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well upon my questions to EBR I have found out that you do NOT need a race license to buy the amazing Buell Race Exhaust AND can get a PREPROGRAMMED ECM to go along with it for an additional 250$ (yes less than the O S B tune)

here's the whole thing in the email:
My question: Erik,

How much is your race exhaust? Is it the same exhaust as the Buell Racing Exhaust? and Do you need a race license to purchase it?

Also when will the online catalog and pictures and pricing of the euro spec 1190?

Thanks A lot,
Jake


Response: Dear Mr. Holladay,

The race exhaust that we have right now is exactly the one used on the championship winning AMA DSB bikes last year. It works very well with stock engines, as we ran completely stock engines in that class. The complete system sells for $1700 , however they are in short supply at the moment. More are being made, but it will be a while before they are done.

You will need to purchase a race ECU to go with this pipe, but if you do not change anything else in the engine or airbox (other than a K&N filter or the like) we can ship it to you with the right map in it. The ECU is $250 by itself; the software and interface cable costs $500 more, but you would not need that with just the pipe. Also this is a very high end complex software package that needs to be used by someone with lots of EFI experience.

We are aware that many riders who do not have race licenses want these exhausts for trackdays and race schools. Therefore we are not going to require a license for someone to purchase these. However, these systems are not street legal and neither is the calibration in the race ECU, so neither should be used on the street.

We are behind schedule regarding finalizing component prices, and the information on the race motorcycles will not be posted until we have this information and can post the prices.

Best regards,


Customer Support
Erik Buell Racing


and its 100$ less ...im savin my pennies lol

Cheers,
Jake
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Repost : D
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i know i just figured everyone should now outside that thread lmao

Jake
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow 2 grand. That setup should be perfect though
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Jng1226
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for sharing. No doubt this will be the greatest power mod for the money. I read somewhere that the RMR 1125Rs (Eslick/Barnes 2009 championship winning bikes for those that don't follow AMA Racing) were making over 150 rwhp on various DMG dynos with only the Buell Race Pipe, Race ECU and Air Filter.

To gain 30-something rwhp while leaving the motor internals completely stock, and hopefully just as reliable, is fantastic. Another $2K on suspension and I may just swap the 1125R for the track only and convert the MV Agusta back to street duty!

Jeff
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Easyrider
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Send me one exhaust for testing (-:
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!

Let's Roll, baby!

If you bought a Loki for $7K, and dump another 2K in exhaust and race ecm, whaddaya have???

A Nine Thousand Dollar Rocket Ship!

Whoop!

R
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Afhans
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know where I can get a look at one of these exhausts? No doubt this is where one gets their best power increase... not cheap though. Right now my favorite pipe is D&D's, but I will not buy it because it mounts too high and off to the side. I e-mailed D&D last week--still waiting for a response--asking if their slip-on could be modified to mount under the bike... like a Buell should have its exhaust.


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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Afhans,
here are some right now..there is someone on here that has the setup and uses it on the street and strip..cant recall who though..




Jake
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Russmannnn
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

only prob i see with this is maby vioding the warenty bc the pipe is not street legal any one know if this will do that or not
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It shouldnt make a difference because of decibel levels, practically all aftermarket exhaust arent street legal, and none of those will void the warranty.

Jake
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Ducdood9
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$5,000 bike

$1,700 pipe
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Afhans
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ridenusa41, thanks for the pics. I do like how it looks. Not as sleek as the D&D, but it mounts where a Buell should have its exhaust. $2K+or-... I think I am not that skilled of a rider that I would get my $'s worth out of the upgrade. But who knows maybe. For now I'll see what if anything catches my eye in the $400-$600 range.
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Ponti1
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$5,000 bike

$1,700 pipe


...and trolling is free!
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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> $5,000 bike
> $1,700 pipe

When you start talking track bikes, that's hardly the worst of the inverse value travesties taking place.

Think about it.. you buy a slightly wadded 1125r salvage with a good motor for $4k and *promptly* put more than 2x that much into suspension, exhaust, slipper clutch, tires, and so on.

My track bike is worth sooooo much more parted out.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So with this package we should expect about 135hp at the wheel?
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Blur
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should be around 135hp at the wheel stock.

It sounds like what they're saying is more like 150 hp at the wheel with this race pipe, K&N filter and race ECU with preloaded map; no tuning necessary.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotta have the EBR pipe and ECU. It's not even a question of if...it's when. Thank You Erik!
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think it will be a hot seller
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blue - I expect there would be more than 1% drivetrain loss.
With 146crank hp, and youre saying 135 at the wheels, that is only 1% drivetrain loss, and that just cant be right.
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Blackflash
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We expect some parts will start going on-line with pricing this week, and more will be added on a daily basis as we verify availability and cost. There are hundreds of parts, however stock is out on many of them, and we have to wait to either make them or get them from suppliers.



Although the final word will be when these items are on-line, I can tell you that we will have the first of several 1125R fairings soon, but the first ones will be race only, with no provisions for headlights.



Customer Support

Erik Buell Racing




just got mine too.
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Moosestang
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blue - I expect there would be more than 1% drivetrain loss.
With 146crank hp, and youre saying 135 at the wheels, that is only 1% drivetrain loss, and that just cant be right.


1%???????? 10% of 146 is 14.6, so 131hp at the wheel isn't far fetched. It's very possible some bikes are making 150hp at the crank or more, so some may hit 135rwhp. The CR in the streetfighter vs. 1125CR article dynoed at 132.
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Blur
Posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hybrid, all I'm saying is that I've seen dyno runs posted on this site with indicated 135 rwhp. Now whether or not that dyno was accurate is up for debate, but a stock run showed about 135rwhp.

I would be happy with anything above 130 stock.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was basing my number on the info from EBR.com They say their DSB spec bike has 135 hp at the wheel
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Ponti1
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have personally had nearly 131 HP at the wheel just by adding a touch of fuel. Heck, my '08 with standard 05Z reads 129 at the wheel, so if 135 RWHP is DSB-spec, there must be very little tuning on those bikes.




And, yes, I know it was too rich at the time. Just posting a quick example...
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike dynos at 130.1 completely stock (cold day) according to the Roanoke Valley HD/Buell Dynojet.

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Blur
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the DSB is limited to how much power it can make since its running against 600's for the most part.

I agree that 130 sounds more realistic on a stock bike but I also know of some dynos that read on the high side of things.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mountain, that's gotta piss off the HD guys who dump a ton of money in their bikes to see your stock bike destroying them. I've done dyno drags against VROD guys and they are always in shock that I'm kicking their rears on a stock bike.
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Eboos
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

> $5,000 bike
> $1,700 pipe

When you start talking track bikes, that's hardly the worst of the inverse value travesties taking place.




LOL. I recently saw a $12,000 fork mounted on a TL1000R.
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Hdwrenchtx
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a tune would help smooth out that last graph and possibly gain more power
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Using STD correction factor, this is what I got out of my bone-stock '09 CR with the 152 flash (graph shows out-of-the-crate baseline, pre-flash baseline with 500 miles 142/80, and post-flash 143/81, same day as pre-flash):




I'd say 150rwhp is *easily* attainable.

(Message edited by ratbuell on January 11, 2010)
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Crackhead
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I had an 1125, I would get the Buell pipe for the sound alone.
Listening to the exhaust at NJ was amazing. It sounded exactly how a Buell should sound. 2 cylinder, v sound, loud, and like a pissed off German Shepard deep bark.

no wussy sewing machine sound
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^ Exactly

My Buell Race pipe on the X-1 has that quality.
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