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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NADA didn't list 08' XT. From what I have been seeing these values are too high even though they are RETAIL (dealer) values.

06 ULY http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-23-38- 5697-0-0-0&l=1&w=23&p=38&f=5698&m=0042&d=120001890 4&y=2006&ml=B&gc=MC&gtc=MC

07 ULY
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-23-38- 5697-0-0-0&l=1&w=23&p=38&f=5698&m=0042&d=120002056 4&y=2007&ml=B&gc=MC&gtc=MC

08 ULY
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-23-38- 5697-0-0-0&l=1&w=23&p=38&f=5698&m=0042&d=120002201 3&y=2008&ml=B&gc=MC&gtc=MC

09 ULY
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-23-38- 5697-0-0-0&l=1&w=23&p=38&f=5698&m=0042&d=120002409 2&y=2009&ml=B&gc=MC&gtc=MC

09 XT
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-23-38- 5697-0-0-0&l=1&w=23&p=38&f=5698&m=0042&d=120002409 3&y=2009&ml=B&gc=MC&gtc=MC
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Strokizator
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank God my insurance company doesn't read these. The adjuster offered me $8000.00 for my '06 Uly that got wrecked back in May. I reminded him that my policy also covered up to $3000 of accessories and I had bags and a few other goodies. He then countered with an offer for $8600.00 and I said "OK".
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Slinky
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If my insurance company would give me 8600.00 for my 06, I would go out and crash it right now.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Uly went from $11,000 in the Fall of '07 to $5,500 in the Fall of '09... two years and a 50% depreciation.

It cost me $2,750 per year to ride my Uly 5,000 miles per year...or $0.55 per mile.

Now add in insurance, maintenance, tires, fuel and riding gear... oh yeah, and the 'farkles'... I'd rather not add it all up.

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Jphish
Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YIKES! Ya can't run the spread sheets on these things!! Can cause all sorts of psychological complications. It's like my last boat - 18' Boston Whaler, 115hp, 6hp kicker, Galv trailer, 2K worth of gear & electronics: about $22K total - sold 3 years later for 12K. Only 10 fishing days & about 30 Salmon caught over 3 years, ave wt about 10 lbs (mix of King & Coho) = $10K / 300 lbs = $35/lb...doesn't include fuel. But did get to play capt Ahab (or Quigg, depending on crew) This was back when Salmon was selling for 3.99/lb. No Salmon with the Uly, but caught lots of trout...only smaller. About 40$/lb I figure...and released all of 'em. Do love this kind of recreational insanity though.
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Tginnh
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a thread a while back on this same topic.

Some were writing that the Uly is no worse or better than other bikes when it comes to depreciation.

Anyone care to do the grunt work to compare a couple other models. Say a V-Strom and a GS?
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Source: www.nadaguides.com

2007 BUELL Road/Street XB12X ULYSSES ADVENTURE---Suggested List: $11,495
Low Retail-----------Average Retail
$5,625----------------$7,400
Percent of depreciation: 51% (Low Retail)

2007 BMW Road/Trail R1200GS---Suggested List: $14,925
Low Retail-----------Average Retail
$7,265----------------$9,560
Percent of depreciation: 51% (Low Retail)

2007 SUZUKI Road/Street DL1000K7 V-STROM---Suggested List: $8,299
Low Retail-----------Average Retail
$4,420----------------$5,815
Percent of depreciation: 47% (Low Retail)

2007 SUZUKI Road/Street DL650K7 V-STROM---Suggested List: $6,699
Low Retail-----------Average Retail
$3,575----------------$4,700
Percent of depreciation: 47% (Low Retail)

EDIT:
Because I can't divide!

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(Message edited by johnboy777 on October 03, 2009)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the lesson to be learned here ( as if it needs pointing out) is that used bikes are a way better value than brand new. But then again, for those of us that bought the first year 06' ULY new when they came out, we are the pioneers for this model. If it wasn't for us, the ULY would be no more. That being said, I'll leave it up to others to carry on that NEW bike tradition. If I want to buy a 2010 it won't be until at least 2012 and it'll probably have some miles on it. It is always very interesting to lay out these facts and figures of depreciation, and how they quickly squash the lust for a brand new bike.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""I guess the lesson to be learned here ( as if it needs pointing out) is that
used bikes are a way better value than brand new""


But used bikes don't have that 'new bike smell'.

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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most of these "NEW" bikes have so many different butts trying them out to get them sold that they qualify for fumigation.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like we have a winner!

Source: www.nadaguides.com

2007 HARLEY-DAVIDSON Road/Street FLHX STREET GLIDE---Suggested List: $18,725
Low Retail-----------Average Retail
$12,975----------------$14,910
Percent of depreciation: 39% (Low Retail)

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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

""I guess the lesson to be learned here ( as if it needs pointing out) is that
used bikes are a way better value than brand new""




Something . . . . of course . . . . we ALL knew when we bought our bikes. Hell, I knew it when I bought my NEW Chevy Vega in 1970.

: )
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea but you can't be the first one on your block with a new model if you wait 4 years. Also by then its not worth owning anymore, as the then current model will have 50% more power, twice as many valves and nice fancy pods : )
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what I can't figure out is how Harley-Davidson motorcycles seem to gain in value. I'm always seeing used ones that are priced higher than they sold for brand new! I run into this all the time!
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Itileman
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They don't sell for asking price anymore. What difference a couple of years made. The useful accessories get near full value, but the Bling (Harleyese for Farkle) is about 10 cents on the dollar.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XT was not there.(nada)
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Court
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>They don't sell for asking price anymore.

But since 1987 I've listened to folks opine "this can't last forever".

To Harley-Davidson's credit . . . . . they hung in there as one of America's most profitable companies in history for nearly a quarter century.

I'm very interested to see how they reinvent themselves.

There is great opportunity at this time.

It is nothing like what they had 10 years ago. I'm eager to see if they can recognize and capitalize on it or if they are too set in their ways of doing things.

Erik Buell has a clear vision of the future.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

87' is when I bought Harley shares. Still have them.

Buell's story reminds me of Harley's, both started out building bikes in a shed.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whats the value on a CityX ridden like a ULY?
....wait for it....
PRICELESS.

I never bought the bike for resale, that is a loosing proposition. I really did buy it thinking it would be the last New bike I buy. And with the abuse I put it through, nobody would ever buy it used!

I have a named amount policy for replacement at 12k for it. Damn the underwriters, thats what it would take me to duplicate and purchase a new one.
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Ironhead1977
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Erik Buell has a clear vision of the future.

This bike needs to be part of his vision.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/500541.html?1254633776
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