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Archive through December 19, 2007Johnboy77730 12-19-07  09:52 am
         

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Geopatr
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great info guys. Does anybody know the part numbers and prices for the City X and TT bars? Would one of the aftermarket bars be a better choice? : )
How bout the cable length? Will they work or should you get some that are shorter? : )
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Khelton
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB- Just curious, is there a specific reason why you prefer bars with so little sweep/pullback ?
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those who want a little more sweep than what you get with motocross bars, Renthal makes "Road" bars with up to 5" of sweep and they are available in different rise heights too. Your local Cycle Gear or MX bike dealer should be able to order them for you.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just measured my Uly bar ... looks like about 5" of sweep (pull back) to me.

If you're standing on your pegs off-road a lot, you probably would want less sweep rather than more.

I'm thinking of the Magura X-Line Bulge Bars (OE on KTM) in their EX model, which is HEIGHT: 120mm, PULLBACK: 87MM.

LINK: http://www.motostrano.com/maxbuba.html

But you would also need to get the bar riser and top clamp kit like Ft_bstrd, to make it work - they add 1" or so to the height of the bars.

http://www.preeng.com/xcart/product.php?productid= 4&cat=0&bestseller
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Khelton,

I have monkey arms. With the stock bars, I had alligator arms when leaning off the bike. The flatter bars push my hands out furthe in front of me as well as pull my body positioning farther forward.

The width of the bars also allow for more leverage than stock.

Come see us at March Badness, and I'll let you try it out.
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Gotj
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John,

As I wrote earlier somewhere, I need more than a spell checker, I need an editor. The link you posted is the one that should have been in my earlier post.

I'm not sure about the pullback issue. They don't have a diagram but looking at the pullbacks for a bunch of other bikes, 9" isn't all that large. I haven't tried to measure it though.

George
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Johnboy777
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

George,

No problem bro; BTW, I think I found the mistake on their chart for the Uly - they switched the 'pull back number' with the 'center' number. If you look at the chart you can see that they show more pull back for the Uly than the Lightning and other sport bikes - that can't be, those bikes always have more pull back than our type of bike.

At any rate, here's how 'their' numbers come out (corrected). And my measurements were very close to these, as well.

ULY HANDLEBAR DIMENSIONS
Width: 30"
Height: 6.5"
Pull back 5"

The whole point to this (I knew I had a point here?) is that like FB, I too have freakishly long monkey arms (-37/38" sleeves) and I wanted to get a set up that feels better, for me, whether standing on the pegs or sitting down.

So, for what its worth, I will end up with these numbers with the Magura EX along with PE 1" bar risers:

Width: 31.3" ... (1.3" wider)
Height: 5.7" .... (.75" lower)
Pull back: 3.4"...(1.6" less sweep)

Although for a BMW GS, this LINK on handlebars is pretty interesting:
http://www.gunsmoke.com/motorcycling/r100gs/handle bars/index.html

This is actually my slow season now, so i get to mess with this Sh*t

John H.

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(Message edited by johnboy777 on December 19, 2007)
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John,

I'm glad you're into this because my pet fetish is my bike's ergonomics. The handlebar plays a significant role in that. I come from a bicycling background where fitting is done to the millimeter, literally. I am astonished at how limited our options are on motorcycles. Thanks for the additional link, quite interesting. Buells are built from the rider down IF you are sized like THE Buell rider.

About your "final" solution, I read the specs as raising your bar 1/4" (1" riser-.75" lower bars). I'm guessing you stand enough to warrant that rise. I'm ARAT (All Road All the Time) so I went to a lower height.

George
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Johnboy777
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad, I should have been clearer - my specs included the 1" riser, which is to say, they were the 'as installed' specs.

Here's the actual bar specs:

Magura X-Line Bulge Bars EX model

WIDTH: 795mm……..31.3”

HEIGHT: 120mm….. 4.7”

PULL BACK: 87MM….3.4”


John H.
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Geopatr
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would anybody have the part numbers for the City X or TT handlebars? It would be appreciated. : )
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Beatnick_fly
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any Harley Dealer will have the part number, got mine from Ocean County HD in Lakewood, NJ. I don't think the measurements on bars mean too much, it's a matter of individual preference. I first tried a Malcolm Smith bar (MSR), but my wrists were at too much of an angle. You can sit on the TT at the dealer, (which is what I did) and found them to be perfect, at least for me. But I'm warnin' you again, there too low (rise) to use for any off road work if you you have to get your ass up off the seat. You're leaning too far forward, and in any soft sand situation, down you'll go. All the cables worked, I had to snake the brake line down a bit, but it worked out ok. Also, I had to file the little nubs off the switch/clutch controls because the the angle was too great, (too high). Hope this helps
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if anyone else is interested in handlebar minutia (I could be/am obsessed), but I was over at ADV Rider's GSpot (BMW GS area) and got the dim. of the GS1200 from one of those nice bimmer guys. And learned a valuable life-lesson too, they're not all anal posers.... who knew?

GS1200 handlebars:

Width : .................32

Height /Rise:…...........6.5”

Pull back :…..............4"


Uly:

Width : .................30.5

Height /Rise:…...........6-6.5”

Pull back :…..............5"

So it seems their bars are wider, with less pull back (sweep) than the Uly.

I rode a GS1200 not too long ago, and it seemed more comfy standing than the Uly. Hence my quest for the uber-perfecr handlebar... also, my KLR650 seemed to be easier for me to stand.

Also, my god, you think we have Uly issues. Good grief, just visit that thread. Wow! A lot of those guys really got the shaft with their bike.


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Geopatr
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beatnick_fly
Thank you very much for your help!! : )By the time I am finished my Uly will look like a Long Legged Lightning!! : )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the time I am finished my Uly will look like a Long Legged Lightning!!

That's basically the look I am going for. If I thought it wouldn't be more work than it's worth, I'd swap out the front fairing and tail section as well.
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So does anybody have a set of unwanted Uly bars? I'll pay cash, American...

rt
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gave mine to a buddy or they'd be yours.
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Geopatr
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered a set of City X bars from my dealer. I may have my Uly bars available in couple of weeks. : )
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Road_thing
Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geo: keep me in mind if you do!

rt
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Geopatr
Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

: ) I'll keep you in mind : )
George: )
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