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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Called SporTwin just now they are sending them (mirrors) out to me today. Man I ordered them on the 9th.
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh Jim, you big tease...

Here I thought you were showing us your handiwork! My mistake.

Sure is intriguing, though, for all of us wannabe machinists. I'm gonna keep making little chips with my Taig until I convince myself that either a) I need something bigger/better to really make anything or b) I just don't have the talent/patience/mindset/basic skills (choose your favorite) to do anything that requires precision beyond about 1/4 inch!

r-t

edited by road_thing on June 24, 2003
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Pilk
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road_thing, did ya get mail from me last night or today? having some trouble with my server.

Pilk
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Jim_witt
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay,

Last image, I promise! They make every damn thing. Freaking amazing. Notice the cup at the rear of the engine for scale purposes.



-JW:>);

edited by jim_witt on June 24, 2003
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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber, I have been using a little place called Redline. Its only a few blocks from my house, the guy that runs it is the son of the former owner of Ace Honda. If I need a tire changed or anything small like that, I just bring it in without any appointment & usually its done in an hr or 2.

I also use Pumas in Racine. They get flyers from different suppliers notifying them of parts that are being discontinued or what have you & Jim will sell the parts to you for I believe its 20% over his cost to get them. I bought the parts for my rims..hubs & spokes...& I ended up paying about half of what I would have thru anyplace else.

I do not buy any aftermarket parts from the local Harley shops. Gaskets, Voes switch, etc, are about all I will get from the stealerships.
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Jprovo
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks like a mini Offenhauser, bitchin!!!

I need one of those in a mini-bike :)

James
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Jmartz
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife and I are looking at Salt Lake as a potential place to move. I would like to hear from someone who lives in the area about the riding out there, weather, and other. Please ping me off line.

Jose
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dyna

adresses would be much apprecited . . .the indy scene in Northern Ill has declined greatly over the last few years . . . . . .

thanks, bud


I NEEED THAT lil Offy in my lawn mower . . . . .

although I have some aging equipment, it is still better than me (just like my M2 is more motorcycle than I am a rider) . . .. .

quote from an old metal butcher I once knew . .. Machinists work to the nearest thou', carpenters to the nearest eighteenth, and boat builders to the nearest boat . . . ..

appropos of nothing, but I liked it, and figured I pass it on
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jose,
I don't live there, but have been through there several times. Cool to cold in the winter, warm to hot in the summer, western slope of the Rockies, lots of National Parts in the region, rock climbing in the region, camping and hunting as well, plus all those crazy Jeepers driving up and down stuff too steep to walk on.

Once you're out the city you'll probably spend most of your riding to the east, northeast, southeast, because almost everything westward is hot and flat and straight.

Probably no help at all, but thought I'd post anyway. :)
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Jmartz
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope the weather is not as harsh as Milwaukee. Having seen a summer day in 50's reminded me why I moved down south.

A friend from Colorado told me that lots of gravel remains on the roads after the winter months severely curtailing motorcycle use.

I suppose Salt Lake is similar.
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pilk: Got it, thanks! I'm thinking...

r-t

edited by road_thing on June 24, 2003
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pick your lines and know the runoff flow patterns and you're generally okay, except for the occaisional errant gravel truck laying spray-lines on corners. There's a very nice sweeper-road between Ixonia and I-94 that is run at 90mph by dumptrucks, which totally makes it bike-nervous.

Depending on how soon you plan to maybe move it may be worth a trip out there at least twice. Anytime between now and mid-September should be warm with regular short thunderstorms. Winter can be harsh, but SLC is down mostly on the desert floor. Not sure what the average annual snowfall is in the city, but good skiing up in the hills. And you'll always be less than 1/2-day's ride to great areas. You'd also probably become a regular contact for the Bonneville LSR crew.

There is at lest one guy on the site here who lives in SLC. If he doesn't get in contact with you then Court could probably put you in contact with him.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dumb quick question about S2 and M2 wheel/tire swap:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/31438.html?1056489740

Thanks.
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Rall
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anybody rebuild the showa shock? My S-2's is leaking! And my warranty claim has been turned down! :(
Mark
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Rall
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike
The wheel is the same and will bold right up. Don't think the gearing is tho. You may have to trade the sprocket. Count teeth to make sure!
Mark
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only gearing difference on S-2 is the FRONT sprocket at 29 teeth vs 27 teeth.Should be easy swap.What wheels are on S-2 now?
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Ara
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was watching the Springfield Mile on SPEED last night, and Steve Morehead mentioned that the bikes were not set up as "twingles" for the mile track. Theoretical question: What would be involved in setting up a tube-frame Buell as a twingle? Assuming stock, waste-spark ignition, would it simply be a matter of reorienting two of the cams?
Russ
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rall,
Thanks.

Jim,
The S2 has the white Marc.....i wheels.(Too early to try and spell that.)
Looking to buy a house and need to reduce monthly outflow so am thinking unthinkable thoughts.

Ara,
Twingles? Do you mean turning it from alternating fire to off-sync fire? As in ThuThump?

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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey you firebolt owners... I am getting ready to layout the circuit board for the speedo sensor filters, and want to make sure it is firebolt friendly. The XB9S Lightnings should not need this filter, so I don't care about them.

The shape that works well on the tube framers is a long skinny format, like half an inch wide by 3 inches long. I cover this with a short length of black split loom plastic covering.

Will this shape work for the XB's? Is there a place to tuck it and tie it down?

I could also articulate it half way along the length if making it able to bend would help, but don't want to unless it is necessary.

Thanks,
Bill
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep, I was thinking about incorporating your speedo filter in a separate harness with appropriate connectors that would simply plug in where the sensor connector mates the wiring harness. Reason being so as to not modify the sensor if it would need to be returned for warranty purposes.

If memory serves, there's just about 3" along side the wire bundle coming out of the sensor before it ducks under the sprocket cover for the filter wiring to fold up against.

Sparky
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Ara
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mikej,

Our 45 degree single crank pin engines have their power strokes 45 degrees apart. I think (I'm not sure) that a "twingle" would be 360 degrees different. A four-stroke engine has a 720 degree cycle (two revolutions) so I think a twingle would have its power strokes 405 degrees (45 + 360) apart.
So I'm wondering, and the engine experts I hope will jump in here, what would it take to do that and what would be the likely result?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Sparky, I ought to be able to squeeze it in there easy.

I am not doing the Deutsch thing as they are hard to get, expensive, and just makes more work for me. Plus, the vast majority of the ones I am fixing are all way out of warranty. I am sending them out with about a foot of wire on either end, to be soldered or wire nutted in where ever is the most convenient.

If a pile of deutsch connectors with attached pins and wires (don't know if they need a special crimp tool or not) mysteriously showed up in my mailbox, I would be happy to make plug and play filters.
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russ, our motors fire at 405 & 315 degree intervals.
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never tried to set one up for 45 & 675 degree firing intervals, but I can't imagine it'd work that well. For one thing, you'd have both cylinders pulling on the intake simultaneously (which they don't do now). Seems like the manifold inlet and carb would be sized wrong. And it seems like the flywheels would need to be bigger. And it'd have implications for the ignition system and exhaust system as well.
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Jprovo
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could probably do it much easier with an XR750 motor with the seperate intake tracts. Kinda like the experiments that they did with the RC45 "big bang" motor. You'd have power pulses much closer to a single.

I've always heard "Twingle" refer to vertical twins like Triumphs, BSA, and Nortons set up to have both bores fire at the same time. Essentially a double piston single.

James
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Sarodude
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, that's all we need - a stuttering thumper with an appetite for transmissions... At 45 degrees, would there be enough common torque pulse to, uh, hurt stuff?

An interesting little motor is the Feuling W3. The front and rear cylinder fire 270 / 450 degress apart. The middle and rear cylinders (like our front and rear) fire 315 / 405 degrees apart. Independent induction and exhaust for all cylinders.

-Saro

edited by sarodude on June 25, 2003
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Ara
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AH! Now I understand! The context was the XR750 dirt track bike. I learn something new every day here!
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Triumph twins did not fire at the same time.
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Jprovo
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jmarz,

Right, but I've seen at least four set up that way, two Trumpets, one Norton, and one XS650. All the owners called them "twingles".

James
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting.., I did not know that. I do remember my '69 quite well that I got in '70. I did not know much about mechanics at the time but when looking into the open motor during a conversion to 750 cc I noticed both pistons went up and down together. The guy working on it told then that even so they still fired at different times.
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