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Skntpig
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I called Shorai and they no longer make this battery and their recommendation was a Yuasa lead acid.

Huh?

Any ideas? Does anyone know a cross reference that will work?
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Shoggin
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whaaaa?

Call back and ask for Marianne or Sean. I got one 2 months ago for my EBR, they are Buell and EBR fans as well as amazing customer service.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2018 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I recently saw on Facebook that the Shorai part number had just changed. Iím pretty sure a Shorai to fit the EBR is still available.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2018 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This comes up if you do a vehicle search on Shoraiís page:

https://shoraipower.com/battery?type=175&make=3827 94&model=382795&year=382795

Part number lfx21a7-bs12
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Skntpig
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2018 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh:

Thatís the one I thought I needed. You cannot order it online from Shorai. When I called I was told to buy a Yuasa.

I went into my local EBR dealer and he called LAP and ordered a battery. I hope I get one that hasnít been sitting around too long and works.
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1_mike
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2018 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting...I've bought a couple from them directly.
Give them a phone call, actually talk to a person.

I even put one of these battery's in my XB12s.

Mike
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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same here ^^^^^


Dunno why the OP is having an issue.
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skntpig -

To verify...
You have actually called Shorai, and they said that there is no more of that part number battery, correct ?
There is nothing close in their catalog, size and power wise ?

Hmmm, if that's true, I'm glad I have an extra..!

Mike
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Skntpig
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,

Thatís exactly correct.
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1_mike
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That stinks.
There are other LION batteries made. Has anyone checked into the other brands per their dimensions/power ?

Mike
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Terrys1980
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The battery size that the EBR uses is oddball size. Here is a reply I got back from Full Spectrum who makes PulseIPT Batteries..

"The Shorai in your bike is a bit of an odd size- 148*83*118.
Our cases are meant to fit as direct replacement for BCI standard sizes, so it seems that we have stuff that is a little smaller, or larger.

Here are the options. We have standard sizes that are on our website, and we can also put a larger pack into a smaller case. It'll just take us a day or two to make it for you.

In stock-
P.9BM- 150*65*93- 315 cranking amps/4.2 amp hour (12.6pbeq)
$209
We can make-
P.9L- 150*65*103- 360 cranking amps/6 amp hour (18pbeq)
$219

Either or those will fit and work. The "L" version has a stronger pack.
Both will have the full BMS.

Note- a standard size Yuasa battery would measure 150*87. We make those in 4 different depths, from 93-145mm. If you think you have the extra few MM in the battery tray we can use that case size."
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like what is needed is a way to get more room in the tray for a standard sized battery. I used an off the shelf $115.00 Batteries Plus AGM for the Beta. I needed to power it up just to list mileage for registration. Although it listed only around 225 CCA, just for kicks I tried starting the bike. It worked fine, and it has been working fine ever since. I don't remember the number but it fit OK except for the width. I need to space the seat up about 1/8" to get clearance. My fat butt deforms the seat pan enough that I don't think I'm doing any damage to the battery but if we made up a tapered insert to fit onto the bodywork to raise the rear of the seat pan that 1/8", and go to almost no lift at the front it would allow standard batteries to be used.
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Ggggary
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a new 2 miles on it 2014 SX in the garage, Shorai was toast. Mostly narrowed it down to 1 of these 2,
housing should be a fit, mocked it up out of foam to check.

Dimensions: 5.9in (L) x 3.4in (W) x 4.5in (H)150mm(L)x86mm(W)x115mm(H)

EarthX ETX24C @ 259
Ah: 7.8A
Pulse Crank Amps (PCA): 420A
Cold Crank Amps (CCA): 270A
Weight: 2.6 lb

vs EarthX ETX36C @ $349 same size housing! More cells packed in?
Ah: 12.4A
Pulse Crank Amps (PCA): 680A
Cold Crank Amps (CCA): 320A
Weight: 3.9 lb
is there a $90 advantage to big capacity?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since EBR is now building (well, assembling) new EBRís again, I wonder what theyíre using for batteries?
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh, if those spreadsheets from the LAP firesales were accurate, they have plenty of NOS batteries.
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Ggggary
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who wants to buy brand new old-ish batteries?
Even buying a new battery I try to pick a high volume dealer with better turnover.
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Ggggary
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EarthX ETX36C @ $349
Ah: 12.4A
Pulse Crank Amps (PCA): 680A
Cold Crank Amps (CCA): 320A
Weight: 3.9 lb
Found one "open box" on amazon, in and working. had enough room to make a battery glove out of some "open weave" foam shelf liner. Had a clamp type ammeter on it while starting and very briefly saw over 300A, no idea how accurate that is. But it spins motor with authority. Still need to dump and refill "gas frame" prolly 2 months away from adding to the 1.9 miles on it.
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Duggram
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2019 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Shorai battery and charger that I bought for my 1125 a few years ago. The battery is an LFX18L1-BS12. It's been on the charger's storage setting for almost all the time I've had it. Too big for my other bikes. What's the charger and battery worth? If you want it make me an offer. I'm in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.
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Mnscrounger
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2019 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the # on the AGM battery I bought for the SX Beta is a Batteries Plus XTAZ14S. I recall it was about 115.00 ( a quick internet search suggests they can be had a LOT cheaper)
It fit, but was a bit too wide, so the seat pan doesn't quite meet the tail by about 1/16th at the back. when I sit on it the pan deforms enough to close that. I'm sure that's not good for the battery but it seems to be working OK for now
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Skntpig
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2019 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a new one from the EBR dealer in Fort Myers.

They ordered from EBR and I had it in a few days.
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Velocette1
Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2019 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BikeMaster AGM Platinum II Batteries for Street
MS12-7C-A, 12V, 129mm L x 89mm W x 114mm H
I am using this Bike Master Battery in my EBR. Works and fits and was $29.00 A bit tight under the seat compared to stock.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those AGMs are cheap but are at least 100 CCA less than the stock Shorai. I guess at that price it's worth having to replace every 1-2 years.
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Shoggin
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Those AGMs are cheap but are at least 100 CCA less than the stock Shorai. I guess at that price it's worth having to replace every 1-2 years."

Maybe? If it was that simple, but we all know a dead/weak battery will ruin at least a couple rides before we get around to swapping in another battery. Eventually, just to get the right one and save the headaches.

I not rich, but I have learned "Buy once, cry once"
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Damnut
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the battery I got for the 1190SX. Works great and is reasonably priced for having 387CCA.

https://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/lithium-iro n-batteries/sstz14s-fp.html
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Dewyz1100
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damnut - Did that battery fit well in the EBRs battery compartment...?
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Damnut
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perfect fit.







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Dewyz1100
Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - 04:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice! Thanks for the pics...! : )
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Velocette1
Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am using a BikeMaster Platinum 2 non-spillable MS12-7c-A in my 1190SX. Works fine and fits in the space and was $45 on Amazon. It weighs a bit more but I went through two Shorai batteries in a year so wanted a cheaper alternative.
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Shoggin
Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shorai will warranty a battery failing so quickly (if it was the batteries fault) ahem...
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