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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just posted to Motorcyclist's FB page:

quote:

Editor At Large Aaron Frank rode 200 miles in pouring rain last night to see what Erik Buell Racing is about to uncover:




EBR mystery
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Noone1569
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would make sense with the press event going on right now at Indy Motor Speedway. Tried to get an invite from Corey West but he said no. May sneak over and try to get a peak
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Noone1569
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unveiled!!

The 1190SX is on motorcyclists facebook page. I'd post pics here, but not quite sure how to post full size
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here you go:





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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And according to Motorcyclist, it's already in production.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Full-size pics posted here:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/253 912/741681.html?1402505009
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EBR Europe has several studio shots up on their Twitter feed. Apparently it's available in white, black, and red:

https://twitter.com/EBR_Europe
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotta hold out for the AX.... but its getting harder and harder.


That is a great looking machine!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Video of reveal:

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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bar risers and a twin tail... heck yeah. And hard luggage. And maybe a suspension that is a little less edgy.

Meaning I have to hold out for the AX also. : ) But I Don't need a beak thank you.
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Streetfighterx
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love that the front wheel looks like the XB wheels
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since we've gotten an "early" reveal on the 1190SX, I'm betting the 1190AX gets revealed at AIMExpo in October.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like the same wheel as the RX to me.
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Satori
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hughlysses, I am hoping you are right.

It will be interesting to see what the specs are, and if they took the same direction that they did with the CR from the R, with different gearing, and didn't the CR have a different swing arm also?

Now EBR lets get that AX out!
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Classax
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm I don't know, with the TC turned it can be hard to keep the front end down on the RX. If they geared it like the CR with those high bars and more upright seating are gonna lead to a lot more huliganism on a bike that is EASY to wheelie. No brake ducts up front. I think its gonna be hard to keep those bikes in stock. GO EBR!
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The CR had a different swingarm than the R, but that was because the axle was in a fixed position and couldn't be adjusted in/out to provide the correct tension and angle. The RX and SX both appear to use the same swingarm, and given that the axle can be adjusted, they can likely simply just change the sprocket and update the ECM to change the gear ratios.
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Carbonfibrebob
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I'll be ridiculed, but here goes. I was really hoping for a belt. I do like it though. Maybe the AX will be belt or (gulp) shaft. Can't wait.
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Xbgeorge
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like it. It has the same tail as the RX and it isn't nearly naked. And those claws! Disappointed am I. Maybe it will be better in person.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love shaft drive on an adventure tourer. Seems to work for BMW. I'll bet the folks at EBR could figure out how to make it lighter too.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if we are going to be hoping for stuff.... I hope the AX comes out before August so I can ride it to the WV Buell Rally
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S21125r
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm... I was hoping it would look a little closer to the Typhon concept with the twin headlights ala XB style. While the stacked lights looks really good on the RX they look a bit out of place on the SX.
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Needs a red LED sequence light above the headlight like a Cylon.
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Carbonfibrebob
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Hoot, shaft works for the Super Ten and the 1200 Tiger as well. Let's overload the system with calls for a shaft or at least a clean, quiet, zero maintenance belt.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want a chain on my AXT.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belt for me. Shafts fail too, and when they do, you frequently end up having to air express something over from Tokoyo. DAMHIK.

I think we are safe from a shaft drive bike... I believe the exact quote from Erik himself was "they wheelie wrong". Gotta love a CEO with that kind of clarity of thought around product. : )

I love my belt drive. The one good thing we got from Harley.
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Carbonfibrebob
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belt works for me as well. But I don't think Charlie and Ewan would take a belted bike Long Way Up or Over or Through. The spare does store nicely in the top box and is a snap to change on the side of the road. Oops, did I say snap?
If I need to fit 1125 parts to the AX to make it belt, so be it. I know, I know, they won't fit.
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice.

It would be nice to know.
Gearing compared to the R
HP compared to the R

I would need taller bars
Rear seat section is too tall for my short legs. Would need a lower, more level seating position, and maybe lowered pegs.

Guess I am getting too old to fold up anymore.....

REX
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Overall, very nice looking bike. congratulations! Wonder what the price will be? $14000?
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

unfortunately, new cars and new bikes may be out of my future, at this time in my life.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A belt kit would be a nice option for this. The swingarm has the slot in it like the XB/1125 swingarms, so assuming you got the right sprockets and tensioner setup it could be very doable.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A few additional photos included in Cycle World's article:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/06/11/2015-erik-bue ll-racing-ebr-1190sx-naked-bike-first-look-review- and-photo-gallery/?src=SOC&dom=fb
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From a production standpoint...a very smart motorcycle.

Same headlight as RX.

Same fans as RX.

Same major componentry as RX.

It looks to be, quite literally, an RX without the fairing; with different "pods" for the fans; with different bars; and without a brake duct.

Economies of scale, folks. And personally - as a CR owner - I LOVE IT.

Keep in mind folks - this is a SMALL COMPANY. They're not quite back in the days when they could all get in a van to go to lunch...but they'd all still fit in a bus.

The WHOLE COMPANY. Not just a department or two. ALL of 'em. "Variations" are going to be key for a couple years, as opposed to different "families" (such as Sportster/ Dyna / Softail / Touring, for example). And...this is an excellent variation in my eyes.

The AX? I can't wait to see it. I hope - REALLY hope - it won't have shaft drive. Go ride one. Lower gears...they torque sideways. Annoying, at the very least. Belt would be nice...but I can always learn how to care for a chain if I need to : )
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something very unusual about that "unveiling".
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Small company? Fit in a bus? I was at the factory two weeks ago and the asked Erik how many employees, he wasn't sure but one of the office girls said the has 160 employees and are still hiring daily!!!

I've never seen a bus carry 160 people! Folks this new EBR company is on the move and growing! Exciting times again in East Troy Wisconsin!
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Fuzzz
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought so too, mid June release??? Hmmmm...
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Ljm
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure. But if EBR Europe has them, I would guess that they were afraid that it would get out or get seen before they announced it.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yesterday, about noon EDT, Motorcyclist posted a pic saying they'd been called down for a big EBR reveal to Facebook. A few minutes later they posted 3 shots of the SX to FB. 2 hours later the official EBR FB page started posting "teaser" pics implying get ready for the big reveal. Things seemed pretty unsynchronized. It's also odd that there's still nothing about the SX on the EBR webpage yet.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a little additional info in this article:

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-eri k-buell-unwraps-ebr-1190sx-20140611-story.html
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Classax
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it will outsell the RX by a wide margin. The sportbike segment has been pretty stale though way better than 08-11 stretch but still the naked segment and adventure segments are where the consumers are currently going.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to hear what the riders thought of the bike.
When you have 5 or 6 guys walking around in leathers... you can bet they are fix'n to rip the chicken strips off the tires.

I hope we see some on track video's soon!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ I don't think they got to ride the SX yesterday. The event was apparently a journalists track day for the 1190RX and the SX reveal was a surprise.

Cory West has definitely ridden it though; I would like to read what he has to say about it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"you frequently end up having to air express something over from Tokoyo"

You'd be able to overnight it from Wisconsin, if the dealer didn't have it.

There's something to be said for a sealed system when you're riding in rocks and mud.
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Skntpig
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I get the headlight cowl from a production standpoint. The typhon concept sides looked a bit more put together than the pods and exhaust heat shield shown here. I'm sure the SX is lighter weight then the typhon.

I doubt the SX is thousands cheaper. It's only missing a little plastic from the RX from what I see.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just say no to shaft drive. I remember making a shaft drive bunny hop with the throttle. Not something I want in a corner. The more I watch the more I think the AX is going to be a lot like this with more ground clearance, a longer wheelbase, and just a hint of windscreen. Of course luggage options.

Then you lose suspension travel and add a T. (AXT)
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Ratbuell
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I'd love to see an ST (sport touring), like a resurrection of the S2/S3...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing that I think I may not like about the AX will be the muffler to saddle bag area.

If the secondary muffler remains in the same place as the RS & SX, it will either push the right side bag way out... OR it will have a big ole cut out in it.
I don't particularly care for that look.

BUT!! we will have to wait and see
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1313
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It's also odd that there's still nothing about the SX on the EBR webpage yet.

Even more odd is that there is at least some content on the EBR Australia site:
http://www.erikbuellracing.com.au/1190sx

In the back of my mind - since Streetfighters have their background in Europe - I expected the 1190SX reveal/introduction to be at a relevant
WSBK race somewhere in Europe,
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Article at Road & Track; it has a couple of different photos:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/first-looks/ebr-119 0sx-streetfighter-gets-surprise-unveiling-at-india napolis-motor-speedway

Mark- I'm with you about the secondary muffler on the AX. The thing is actually a Helmoltz resonator for one pipe (no flow) and a secondary muffler for the other pipe (flow). One thing I was thinking they could do- split it into 2 smaller units, one on each side of the bike. That might help avoid the asymmetrical hard bag deal.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "unveiling" . . . before the group of 10 adults and 4 children . . . almost seems as it it were accidental.

There's more we don't know . . . this is going to be fun to see what's going on.
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Ljm
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Some of those adults were racers and maybe test riders? If the one number recognizable is an AMA number, it is Tamas Puerta. Could be there were practicing and wandered by too.
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1313
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Court,

There does appear to have been some coordination, as evidenced by my local EBR dealer having 1190SX pics on their Facebook page about the same time as the unveiling.

Still seems a little odd, however...
1313
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Skntpig
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I spy a Larry Pegram imposter...oh wait.
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Fast1075
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It would divert some attention away from the SBK thing.
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Sprintst
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Not my cup of tea,but great to see EBR progressing forward at a quick pace

Seems like the headlight is drawing the most criticism
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Bigblock
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Is the frame larger than the RX, or is it just more exposed because it's naked?
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Reepicheep
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And what is the little nipple thing on the side of the frame low and to the front? Is that an RX mounting boss of some kind?
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Badgerbueller1125
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one guy in race leathers also recording in that video is Aaron Frank from Motorcyclist Magazine.

The AX will have the same headlight.
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Hughlysses
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The AX will have the same headlight.

If the part didn't cost too much, I'd love to put one on my Uly. Not for aesthetics, but for function.
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Ratbuell
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I like the headlight. That whole front clip/flyscreen/light would look good on my CR...
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Skntpig
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's play guess the price.

$17,995.
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Dmhines
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was the 1125CR cheaper than the R? I don't see any reason for the SX to be Cheaper than the RX ...

EDIT: Just checked ... the CR was $500 cheaper. So my guess is $18,495 MSRP.


(Message edited by dmhines on June 13, 2014)
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Jonny5
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like it. Can't wait to see the AX.
It would have been nice if it was unveiled 2 weeks earlier at homecoming. Would have loved to see it in person.
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They've got to keep it user $16,000 to make it work . . .

I suspect LOTS of folks are going to be REALLY surprised with the AX.
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Sprintst
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unless they've despec'ed the suspension, I don't see how the price can be all that different from the SX

I'm very curious about the geometry, swing arm length........or is this just a stripped SX

(Message edited by sprintst on June 13, 2014)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They've got to keep it user $16,000 to make it work . . .

I suspect LOTS of folks are going to be REALLY surprised with the AX.


I'd imagine a LOT of people will be really excited if the SX is under $16k. I can imagine EBR is starting to really get some economies of scale as production has ramped up so I won't be surprised if this price is accurate.

Obviously the AX is going to need some much bigger changes relative to the RX than we see on the SX. New rear subframe and seat, an upright windshield and some amount of fairing in front, bag mounts, and (hopefully) a revised exhaust. I can't wait to see it. Court- I'm guessing you HAVE seen it?
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Noone1569
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All of this "I want the AX" "the AX" talk cracks me up. I certainly understand the desire to see what EBR has up its sleeves, but the SX was just released!

Congrats to EBR for releasing/producing their third brand new model!

Lets take a moment and think about that before wishing for the next one!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gaaaa! Anxiously awaiting the AX. Gaaa!

Who would have thought, less than 5 years after the "Buell has been murdered" announcement, we would have read the following quote in Cycle World:


quote:

The EBR 1190SX, therefore, will be a competitive machine in a highly competitive naked-bike segment, taking on the exotic likes of the Aprilia Tuono V4 APRC ABS, BMW S1000R and KTM 1290 Super Duke R. The SXís predicted 161 hp/415-lb. power-to-weight ratio is better than the Apriliaís 148/455, the BMWís 151/432 and the KTMís 152/445 by a good margin. Party in the engineering house!




Wow.
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beyond just the stats . . . . if . . . what I think is happening . . . is about to . . the EBR will be a MUCH, by a huge margin, better bike to own.

Most of is don't race. I enjoy watching them but racing, for me and about 99% of the riding world, has no impact on what I buy.

What DOES impact my purchasing is "delight in the ownership experience".

Now we're talking the type of thing I'm willing to shell out $$ for.

I expect to be introduced to an ownership experience that will be more exciting and revolutionary than any engineering design.

It's a new world.
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a stripped down RX, exactly what a naked should be.

*All of this "I want the AX" "the AX" talk cracks me up. I certainly understand the desire to see what EBR has up its sleeves, but the SX was just released!*

I don't mean to sound like a douche, but there's a little bit of "who cares" to this. Everybody knew this was coming, and they literally could have bolted a headlight and a bar riser to an AX and called it a naked bike....which is pretty much what the CR was. It's not rocket science, that's why everyone makes a naked bike, and everyone knew this would be next for EBR.

We're all stuck in 2010 still, and back in 2010, we were waiting on the barracuda, and more importantly, we were waiting on the 1125 powered Ully. Hell, the media was asking for that when the ST launched. We got the "new 1125", complete with Barracuda side fans in the 1190 bikes- awesome, now everyone's still waiting on the really fast Ully- The AX will require a lot more engineering and actual fabrication work. Fuel range, triple tail, luggage, sub frame beefed up, all of that sort of thing. So far, what we've seen is a really nice, really hotted up 1125R. I know, all different parts, parts don't fit each other, whatever. Flame away. I love it, but that's what it is.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the 1190, but there was never a rotax powered Ully, so an AX will be pretty close to a clean sheet "new" bike, the one we've been waiting on since 2008. That's why everyone says "AX" every time EBR says...anything. That's not a knock on EBR at all, I think they're doing everything right. hardcore sport bike first, establish the brand, go from there. Logical.

And I'm with Reepicheep- I don't need a beak, and I don't need much off road either. Some 1125R style wind protection, and a whale tail and you have something nobody else makes right now- a decent sized sport tourer, which is what 90% of riders use "adventure" tourers for anyway.

And of course, a tall naked one for the big, bad dirty guys. I'm just saying, when they do an XT/AST, there should be a fairing, or at least an option.

I have an 1125 and an XT- several of the guys here have both. You combine those two and you have the uberbike.....

There's no way I would drop 19K on a sportbike, just as a practical matter. They build the uberbike? That's a no brainer...sell both bikes, sell the wife's car, sell a kidney....
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Buellmojo
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Evgeny Zhukov...BMW S1000R...different in many ways (A good read right there!).

KTM 1290 Super Duke R

Triumph Speed Triple (R) & Street Triple (R)

Ducati Monster & Streetfighter

Kawasaki Z1000

Yamaha FZ-09, and now FZ-07

ETC. ETC...All "sport naked" motorcycles... with what relationship?

I like the SX, only because I like this style of motorcycle...A different, outside of the obvious, design from the RX would have been nice, in my opinion!
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Sprintst
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm so glad EBR did TC and wheelie control

As I stated a long time back, like it or not electronics are an expectation. Read the comparo against the Panigale and they like the EBR electronics, but do make note of the Panigale having more.

I'm guessing they can and will add more aids. I hear ABS is in the works

I think the cluster would allow for some cool customization capability.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great bike and all that but that front is FUGLY.. I can see a huge aftermarket for doctoring up that ugly ass nose.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Price guessing....hm....

SX $14,900.oo
AX $12,900.oo to $13,400.oo
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SX will likely be priced right near the RX...since it's basically the same.

TC (and wheelie control?) came out with the RX.

I'm sure ABS is in the works - they use the same sensors. Just a matter of packaging the 'brain'. And I suspect...wait...I won't be surprised, when the AX comes in at a higher price tag than the RX/SX.

I don't give a rat's ass what a headlight LOOKS like...as long as it puts light on the road where I need it.

And it's a TRIPLE tail. Not a "whale" tail. : )
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Mjohnson
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

UGLY... I was really hoping for the Typhon : (

Corrected spelling, thanks Hughlysses!

(Message edited by Mjohnson on June 14, 2014)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ that would be the Typhon, the deadliest monster of Greek mythology.
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Bsanorton
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2nd the ugly. Don't need another futuristic Robocop looking bike, IMHO of course. I don't care for the sharp angular body work like other makers. I prefer smoother , rounder lines. The RX is a thing of beauty. The SX, not so much.
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Ak_addict
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's because if the 1190SX keeps the engine from the 1190RX it'll be good for 101.6 ft-lbs of torque and 185 hp. Numbers like that in streetfighter form mean instant arrest for anyone lacking perfect impulse control. We're in trouble.
I hope these guys are right about the motor! Why de-tune the SX??? They didn't de-tune the CR and honestly I won't buy a de-tuned naked bike. With the RX motor producing over a hundred foot pounds of torque they can't use the excuse we "tuned it for torque"
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Classax
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I hope these guys are right about the motor! Why de-tune the SX??? They didn't de-tune the CR and honestly I won't buy a de-tuned naked bike. With the RX motor producing over a hundred foot pounds of torque they can't use the excuse we "tuned it for torque"

I doubt they would, becuase the RX is a razor on the track and a weapon on the street, or a weapon on the track and blast ( no pun intended) on the street. They could give the SX a little bit different character by tuning the wheelie/TC to allow for more hooliganism. They could also get a way with less over all HP and even more torque if they wanted to. I doubt they would though.}
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Neutrum
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why are there still no specs on the ebr-website? marketing isn't the strength of ebr...
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Gemini
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1190rx..."the bike is not even available for sale yet. Why in the world would you have it up on your website? EBR is terrible as this advertising..."

1190sx..."the bike has been unveiled already, I know it is not available for sell yet. Why in the world are the specs not available on your website yet? EBR is terrible at this advertising..."

... hilarious
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I expect the details (and perhaps bikes) to be fully available on the 4th of July.
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Doz
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Personally I'm very disappointed.....


I was expecting a new EBR "model"..as in some curvy sexy looking woman.

oh well..
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought they said in the video it was priced at 18 something....
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, they didn't.
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Tpoppa
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reaction to the looks of the SX on the non Buell/EBR boards is lukewarm.

Hopefully the reviews and comparisons are very positive.

IMO, I am surprised EBR didn't do more with the styling. It kind of looks like someone put aftermarket streefighter parts on an RX.

I am CERTAIN that significant effort went in the engineering of the SX. So why not put significant effort into the styling?


(Message edited by tpoppa on June 18, 2014)
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46champ
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I tried posting a comparison between a 1190SX without being detuned for "greater low end torque" and every naked bike I could find and I keep loosing the info. The just of what I found The SX would have more torque and more HP than any other bike in its class. An American bike probably has not had that title since the 1968 Sportster.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reaction to the looks of the SX on the non Buell/EBR boards is lukewarm.

I've seen a few negative posts (apparently by riders who think that anything that isn't a chrome-plated cruiser is inherently repulsive), but here are a couple from a thread on ADVrider in the last 24 hours:

"WOW ! What a stunner. I rode the KTM 1290 last week and was impressed cant wait to swing a leg over this one ..."

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
And to me, that bike is gorgeous. "
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im glad others like it for EBR's sake. I definately want them to succeed. Id have to pick the rx over the sx though, and im on my 2nd cr.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/138-streetfighter/3832 82-ebr-streetfighter.html

http://www.triumphrat.net/biker-hang-out/428241-ma ke-room-for-another-speed-triple-contender-ebr-119 0sx.html

http://www.bandofriders.net/forums/showthread.php? t=82649

Seems really love it or hate it depending on who you ask
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Wymaen
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^^It's interesting to me how we live in a time where instantaneous knowledge from multiple sources is the rule, yet people still manage to be uninformed about the things they're ignorantly railing against.

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Froggy
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At least it is not as bad as the guy a while back who claimed the single sided brake rotor makes the bike pull to the right under braking.
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Hootowl
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My old Shadow had a single front rotor, and I routinely heard that from people. I don't want to call them idiots, but..idiots.
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Court
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>>>> the guy a while back who claimed the single sided brake rotor makes the bike pull to the right under braking.

I read that . . . started to write, draw a diagram and explain . . . then decided that puttering that far down the brain chain was time wasted.
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be surprised to see it priced at or even near $16k. There isn't $3k worth of side panels, belly pan or upper fairing on the RX. $1k maybe, but not 3.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sum of the parts is a component (pardon the pun) of the pricing model . . . but only one component.

The formula, against common convention, is NOT "how much it cost us plus ___%"

Elasticity of demand will play a huge role in this.
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Satori
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember years ago when Dodge first restyled their pickups. They made two proto types, one with a square body like they had done for decades, and the one with the large front fenders.

In the focus groups, 65% of the people either hated the big fender look, or were indifferent to it.

35% Loved the look of the big fenders. They obviously went with the big fender look. Their sales immediately jumped huge percentages once they released it.

A love it or hate it is not necessarily bad.
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Mjohnson
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 03:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My only disappointment with is that I was waiting to trade in my 1125R on a Typhon looking SX.

What was released is not nearly as nice looking (to me) So it was shocking to see what they actually made.
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Jonny5
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Here's a nose to nose shot in case anybody wanted to see two sweet bikes together.
I still find myself drawn to the 2010.



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Satori
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My only disappointment with is that I was waiting to trade in my 1125R on a Typhon looking SX.

I would agree to some extent for selfish reasons because I liked the looks of the Typhon, being a Buell fan.

However, If I was Erik, and Building a BRAND. Which is what he is doing, I would not have it look like my last company creation, I would differentiate it. The EBR's already look enough like the 1125 buell with the frame and swing arm looking like they came from it. Which they did not, different parts there.

Maybe a few model years in, I would restyle or have models that had the dual headlights.

Another thing, the Buell dual headlights were not exactly know as spectacular performers at night.

This new headlight looks like it will work better, and at night that will be whats important.

I would love to hear Classax, or LJM's opinion of the lights at night or anyone else who has experience with both.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This new headlight looks like it will work better, and at night that will be whats important.

The new headlight is LED, which is pretty cool. Here's what Ride Apart had to say about it in their article after the 1190RX introduction:

quote:

Headlights are another area where EBR is innovating. Itís not the first to go full-LED, but it is the first to max-out the Federal governmentís maximum brightness regulation. It reaches the 2,000 lumen limit by using high-tech Cree LEDs, the same youíll find in high-end flashlights from companyís like Fenix or Four Sevens.



I'd say it's bound to work a lot better than the Buell dual headlight setup.
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Ljm
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like the sun coming up.
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Hughlysses
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^ It would be pretty cool if it was "unintentional". Unlike the days of the Mothership, that would have probably required approval of a committee of 20 people including 8 attorneys, I can imagine at EBR it might go more like Erik saying "Heck, we've got all these media types showing up at Indy tomorrow, pull an SX off the line, take it down there and show it to them."
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Skntpig
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 05:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

What do you think of the price? You mentioned it must be under $16k to work. I guessed $17,900 and was too high. Do you expect some price reduction or is the price that will likely result in selling out 100% of the production capability? My guess was simply that but you have more knowledge regarding pricing strategies for a Mo co.
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Hughlysses
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^ A couple of years ago, there was a dealer-specific EBR website that I found and posted links to here. It had a lot of info for prospective dealers and one of the things it said was that EBR bike MSRP's would be set so that there was ample profit for the dealer and "bargaining room" on the price.

I doubt they dealers have had to do much bargaining yet, but it'll be interesting to see if people start finding deals at some dealers over the next year or so.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


EBR Dealer Metrics
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the EBR 2-YEAR WARRANTY (something I haven't seen discussed much) . . . my thinking is that the EBR is going to be an excellent product that's likely to provide a significant;y higher level of customer satisfaction than most/many owners have ever been accustomed to.

There's not been any discussion yet . . but expect an innovative and amazing support system behind the EBR products.

EBR 2 Year Warranty
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Reducati
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Reepicheep
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That's pretty good financing for a motorcycle, but the "as low as" disclaimer wiggle word tells me it's too good to be true.
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Fast1075
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OK, deal breaker. Warranty does not cover nuclear contamination.
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Noone1569
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Evansville Superbike in Evansville, IN was offering 1000$ off an RX if you test rode one at their demo day.
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M2typhoon
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"OK, deal breaker. Warranty does not cover nuclear contamination"

And you live in the Ukraine??
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Hughlysses
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And you live in the Ukraine??

Well, it might apply if you work in Hannaford, WA, Aiken, SC, or some other choice sites in the US as well.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wuz yokin'. : ) But it IS in the warranty statement. Someone has a sense of humor at EBR : ).

They should have added: Guaranteed not rip, tear, shrink, wrinkle, or sag at either end. ; )

(Message edited by fast1075 on July 03, 2014)
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should see the Force majeure clause in my contracts at the United Nations. It makes it clear that the facility is sovereign territory, not the USA and, therefore may be subject to incidents of international unrest such as small arms and artillery fire . . mines . . fragmentation devices and so forth that they, alone, are incidental to the operation and not just cause for delay of construction.

Ok . . . so we toss in some body armor with the hard hat and we're good to go.

:-)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...small arms and artillery fire . . mines . . fragmentation devices and so forth that they, alone, are incidental to the operation and not just cause for delay of construction.

I trust that your rates are suitably adjusted to allow for such occurrences?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhhh . .. the rates?

Well . . . we have a problem. As a result of NOT being located on U.S. soil the wonderful laws of contract, equity and the U.C.C. pretty much don't apply.

So . . .let's say the French had me rewire their entire comm/elec/security and decided not to pay . . no recourse.

So . . I asked (this was about 10 years ago when I was doing this stuff in earnest) for a "deposit".

The next day I am having lunch with the guy and he hands me a briefcase . . . yep, right out of the movies . . . .plum chucked full of $100 bills for the amount of our quoted price.

I took it back to our Controller and when he asked "how's their credit" . . I flipped it open and told him . . EXCELLENT.

Now . . . back to your regularly scheduled discussion . . my car is packed . . . I'm off to spend the 4th with James Taylor & wife Kim . . and to get lost for a month . . . best wishes for a great holiday!
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a price was listed on the web yesterday, between 16000 and 17000 I believe. down a couple of thousand from the first model.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "odd" reveal happened at the height of the SBK bashing all over the web. My take on it.

Damn that sucks, they blow up, they are slow blah, blah.....Ohhhh WOW Dude....Shiny!!
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Gschuette
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still am not getting into this bike. Like the BMW S1000R, it looks like a half baked attempt to strip a super bike and sell a naked. This compares to the, we built this as a naked bike since day 1, look of the KTM 1290. Right now I'd still spend my imaginary naked bike money on the KTM (actually I'd buy a Hypermotard SP) over the EBR or BMW.

Nothing I'd rather have for track days than a RX but the looks of this are not getting me exited. Say what you want, the way a bike looks is some of the appeal to me. It's why I bought a Husky TR650 and not a Suzuki DR650.
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46champ
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at it this way Gschuette there are lots of Headlights out there and the tail section unbolts.

I made that mistake with the S1 I would not look at one just because of the license plate location on the stock bike. I am sure in 2 years Al will have a whole section of parts to change to looks of the EBR's.
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Finedaddy1
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gschuette - "not a Suzuki DR650" you cut me deep....

The SX is starting to grow in me, I'm not crazy about the "thin" looking head light but I'm sure I would forget about this as soon as took one out for a rest ride. I still favor the looks of the 1125CR.
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Gschuette
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol, I love the DR and KLR but I was unable to resist the Husky styling.
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Cravacor
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got back from about 800 miles in Wild, Wonderful West Virginia over the weekend on my CR. Man, do I LOVE having a belt that I don't have to worry about mucking with, carrying a can of chain wax everywhere I go, hearing "funny noises" from the chain, getting dirt impregnated grease all over my bike & so on. I really like the bike, but chains are a PITA.
Also, where's the brake duct? Hooligans need caliper cooling too!
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