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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...regardless of brand, gender, experience, color, country of origin, or favorite position.

i discovered at SpringFast that Tom doesn't like being on the bottom.

strange enough for you Bertman? : )
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ps: BRING BART!!!
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Bertman
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was after the earthquake right?
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Unibear12r
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, they collapsed right there in the Arizona heat AFTER a wild motorcycle ride!
Yea, thats it.
Yes, it happens sometimes like that.
Kinda, ah... well I guess you had to be there?
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Azbueller
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, you had to be there!!!!!
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Sandblast
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mrs Sandblast (Pipes I guess it will be!!!) here. Aaah the verbal faux pas one commits after consuming beer in the sun for 5 straight hours! Did I really say I'd sing the star bangles banner??. Somehow I doubt I used the word 'effin' either...thanks for cleaning it up for me Jerry!Oh well I will probably commit a few more on Oktoberfast. And I cannot do worse on the song than that guy at Laguna!! Hope you all know the words!!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Pipes,
We want to hear all 4 stanzas too, not just the easy first one that everyone knows (or should).

Here they are:

Oh! say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there. Oh! say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen thro' the mist of the deep, Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes, What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep. As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream.
'Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave,
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand,
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation, Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n - rescued land,
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, for our cause is just,
And this be our motto--"In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Get practicing, Pipes, them's lots o' words!

Al
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

spent the day running the Oktoberfast route, making sure all the roads are still there.

they are.

not too many pix, knew if i did i'd never get back.

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on Old Stage Road, about ten minutes out of Glennville, just as the sun was climbing above the trees.

(Message edited by jerry_haughton on July 25, 2005)
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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the Pine Box Bar at Montecito-Sequoia Lodge.

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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this is HILARIOUS! if you were at SpringFast earlier this year, you know why.

Glenn, step away from the Goldschlager!!! ; )

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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the lake at the Lodge.

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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at one of the group campgrounds in Sequoia NP.

our kind of people.

(Message edited by jerry_haughton on July 25, 2005)
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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still haven't figured out how to properly photograph a giant Sequoia.

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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these two shots were taken inside the trees (there are two, but looks like one) above.

(Message edited by jerry_haughton on July 25, 2005)
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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this tree barely warrants a second look compared to some of its bigger relatives, but it was one i could park the bike next to without breaking too many laws, in an effort to provide a sense of scale.

truthfully, this is a pretty small Sequoia as Sequoias go.

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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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that's all the pix on the day. you wanna see more, you gotta come riding with us in Oktober. : )

(Message edited by jerry_haughton on July 25, 2005)
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Unibear12r
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Montecito has a Bar!!!!!
With Goldschlager!!!!!
Ooooooohhh Noooooooo!!!!!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

too funny. : )

to all: IT CAN GET COLD IN THE SIERRAS IN OCTOBER! the last two years we've been lucky, and have JUST beat the first significant weather of the season. with luck it'll be in the 70's during the day and in the 40's at night.

BUT...

...it could get much, much colder. be prepared, folks. bring rain gear - hopefully we won't need it - and bring cold weather gear. hopefully we won't need that either, but if we DO, and you don't have it, you're gonna be miserable.

FB&D
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Sandblast
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pipes: Thanks Al!
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Pipes
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Test...my new log-in!!
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Denisea
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Leah! You go girl!
D
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't see any Jeremiah Weed on those shelves. Now how do you suppose we remedy that?
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Pipes
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took my 'lil Ninja' up the 74 (Idyllwild) for the first time last night, right before sunset. It was lots of fun in a scary way! Have driven that road for years in my car but it was brand new on the bike. AWESOME! Can't wait for those twisties up north!
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Pipes
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS_ Al, I never even knew that song had other stanzas! Some patriot I am huh? I will be printing copies for Oktoberfast. Anybody have the name and address of that singer at Laguna Seca? He could use one too.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't see any Jeremiah Weed on those shelves. Now how do you suppose we remedy that?

bring some??? : )

Pipes, in a Oktoberfast tradition that goes wayyyyyyyy back to the beginning, Boston will be playing on the garage system Friday night to officially launch the festivites, and i happen to have their version of the SSB on CD.

what a sing-along THIS is gonna be. : )
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pipes,
Truth be told, I didn't either, until recently. I received this recently in an email. The entire thing is worth passing on. I looked on Snopes and such, I think the story is legit. The facts about the song itself are corroborated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#Early_history


All Four Stanzas

Hardly Waite, Gazette Senior Editor (yea, that's his real name.....right...Al)

Introductory Note. Unless you're already well acquainted with our "national anthem," this interesting piece by the late Isaac Asimov will be an eye-opener. It was for me. It's especially appropriate at a time when there is much talk of tossing out this difficult-to-sing and difficult-to-comprehend old song in favor of something that better suits Ray Charles' voice. You'll understand the song much better after you read Mr. Asimov's explanation.--.


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"I have a weakness--I am crazy, absolutely nuts, about our national anthem.

"The words are difficult and the tune is almost impossible, but frequently when I'm taking a shower I sing it with as much power and emotion as I can. It shakes me up every time.

"I was once asked to speak at a luncheon. Taking my life in my hands, I announced I was going to sing our national anthem--all four stanzas.

"This was greeted with loud groans. One man closed the door to the kitchen, where the noise of dishes and cutlery was loud and distracting. 'Thanks, Herb,' I said.

" 'That's all right,' he said. 'It was at the request of the kitchen staff.'

"I explained the background of the anthem and then sang all four stanzas.

"Let me tell you, those people had never heard it before--or had never really listened. I got a standing ovation. But it was not me; it was the anthem.

"More recently, while conducting a seminar, I told my students the story of the anthem and sang all four stanzas. Again there was a wild ovation and prolonged applause. And again, it was the anthem and not me.

"So now let me tell you how it came to be written."

In 1812, the United States went to war with Great Britain, primarily over freedom of the seas. We were in the right. For two years, we held off the British, even though we were still a rather weak country. Great Britain was in a life and death struggle with Napoleon. In fact, just as the United States declared war, Napoleon marched off to invade Russia. If he won, as everyone expected, he would control Europe, and Great Britain would be isolated. It was no time for her to be involved in an American war.

At first, our seamen proved better than the British. After we won a battle on Lake Erie in 1813, the American commander, Oliver Hazard Perry, sent the message "We have met the enemy and they are ours." However, the weight of the British navy beat down our ships eventually. New England, hard-hit by a tightening blockade, threatened secession.

Meanwhile, Napoleon was beaten in Russia and in 1814 was forced to abdicate. Great Britain now turned its attention to the United States, launching a three-pronged attack. The northern prong was to come down Lake Champlain toward New York and seize parts of New England. The southern prong was to go up the Mississippi, take New Orleans and paralyze the west. The central prong was to head for the mid-Atlantic states and then attack Baltimore, the greatest port south of New York. If Baltimore was taken, the nation, which still hugged the Atlantic coast, could be split in two. The fate of the United States, then, rested to a large extent on the success or failure of the central prong.

The British reached the American coast, and on August 24, 1814, took Washington, D. C. Then they moved up the Chesapeake Bay toward Baltimore. On September 12, they arrived and found 1000 men in Fort McHenry, whose guns controlled the harbor. If the British wished to take Baltimore, they would have to take the fort.

On one of the British ships was an aged physician, William Beanes, who had been arrested in Maryland and brought along as a prisoner. Francis Scott Key, a lawyer and friend of the physician, had come to the ship to negotiate his release. The British captain was willing, but the two Americans would have to wait. It was now the night of September 13, and the bombardment of Fort McHenry was about to start.

As twilight deepened, Key and Beanes saw the American flag flying over Fort McHenry. Through the night, they heard bombs bursting and saw the red glare of rockets. They knew the fort was resisting and the American flag was still flying. But toward morning the bombardment ceased, and a dread silence fell. Either Fort McHenry had surrendered and the British flag flew above it, or the bombardment had failed and the American flag still flew.

As dawn began to brighten the eastern sky, Key and Beanes stared out at the fort, tyring to see which flag flew over it. He and the physician must have asked each other over and over, "Can you see the flag?"

After it was all finished, Key wrote a four stanza poem telling the events of the night. Called "The Defence of Fort M'Henry," it was published in newspapers and swept the nation. Someone noted that the words fit an old English tune called "To Anacreon in Heaven" --a difficult melody with an uncomfortably large vocal range. For obvious reasons, Key's work became known as "The Star Spangled Banner," and in 1931 Congress declared it the official anthem of the United States.

"Now that you know the story, here are the words. Presumably, the old doctor is speaking. This is what he asks Key:"

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Oh! say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there. Oh! say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?


("Ramparts," in case you don't know, are the protective walls or other elevations that surround a fort. The first stanza asks a question. The second gives an answer. )


On the shore, dimly seen thro' the mist of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep.
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream.
'Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


("The towering steep" is again, the ramparts. The bombardment has failed, and the British can do nothing more but sail away, their mission a failure. In the third stanza, I feel Key allows himself to gloat over the American triumph. In the aftermath of the bombardment, Key probably was in no mood to act otherwise. During World War II, when the British were our staunchest allies, this third stanza was not sung. However, I know it, so here it is)

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave,
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

(The fourth stanza, a pious hope for the future, should be sung more slowly than the other three and with even deeper feeling. )


Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand,
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation,
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n - rescued land,
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, for our cause is just,
And this be our motto--"In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

"I hope you will look at the national anthem with new eyes. Listen to it, the next time you have a chance, with new ears.

"And don't let them ever take it away."

--Isaac Asimov, March 1991
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw a really great story chronicling this on the history channel recently.Was indeed a great tale.The number of rockets and cannon balls expended by the British was amazing.
There was alot more involved,but alas cannot remember the details.
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