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Newfie_buell


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just may start to like Winter Now.

http://www.snow-hawk.com}
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SouthernMarine


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn, I would too, that looks like fun. : )
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Timbo


Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I LIKE IT !!!
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Mutt2jeff


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SWEET! I want!
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Tucsonxb9s


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's that white stuff he's riding in??
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Gschuette


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is cool as hell. I thought Snowmobiles would be fun but a little big. That looks light and fun!
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Drfuyutsuki
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonder If I could make it street legal?
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very cool!

I say just fabricate a kit for an offroad or dual-sport bike...
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Rek


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Talk about some serious knee-dragging going on! (plus the back-ground music's not too shabby, either)

Rob
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Nedwreck


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool. Wish we got snow.

Bob
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Blackbelt


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone see an MSRP?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will never work; must be trick photography; no gyroscopic action on the front ski would make it impossible to ride/turn, or so I have been told. : p

Seriously though, it looks to perform well in powder and unpacked snow, not sure the front ski would bite on packed snow, maybe if it had some nice sharp edges. Maybe if the front ski also had a bunch of small spiked/treaded wheels protruding through its centerline, or at least deployable as needed, kinda like some of the aircraft ski rigs but a little more sophisticated.

Cool stuff. Totally changes and in my view vastly improves the experience of snowmobiling.

(Message edited by blake on February 16, 2005)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be sure to check out the 3rd and 4th videos on the pic/video page...

http://www.snow-hawk.com/flash/index.html

Countersteering on a single/center-ski snowmobile. It works too, just like on a motorcycle. : )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ooops, the whole site is set up as a Flash installation. To get to the videos, click on "Gallery"; the video links are in the lower right corner.
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BadS1


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake Carbides make the steering happen packed snow or not.
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Ingemar
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You think they will work in desert sand too?
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Djkaplan


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the desert is covered in snow, I think it'd work great.
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Lake_bueller


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They were at my work last week for a Sno-Cross event. The dealer had them at a "blow out" price of $8995

I tried talking him into letting me do a demo on the track. No such luck (darn)!
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Midknyte


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ah that ain't nuthin. If you want to see cutting edge, check this out

http://www.wordpress.tokyotimes.org/index.php?p=434
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M1combat


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What they need is a way to allow the ski to pivot. It would work on ice as well if they are using carbide rails.
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Charlieboy6649


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, that sweeper would be cool with a 2 stroke! SPEED!!!!
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Rokoneer


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are usually a few barely used Snow Hawks on eBay that sell for considerably less than new. I think the novelty of them wears off fairly fast.....
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Bartimus


Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OMG!!! I need to get one for when the company sends me to New Mexico!!! Those are way too kewl!
Brings back fond memories of my Artic Cat I had when growing up in New Hampshire.
Brrrrrr, wait a minute, that's why I moved to Phoenix, to get away from that white stuff.
Still, looks like lots of fun. That could be just what the guys up north need to cure them of PMS...
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still like this idea. Somebody else posted it a while ago.
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Wardog3187


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the way to go - http://www.theriotwheel.com/

Anybody got a spare Buell motor that I can get so I can build one?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right Dana, but on the conventional two-ski configuration the carbide blade is always closest to the snow surface, it doesn't get leaned over much and so can maintain contact with the packed surface just fine. With a single track vehicle, be it bicycle, motorcycle, water ski, snow board, or even running on two feet, ya gotta first lean in order to turn. Note that none of the video footage is over packed snow. Maybe a series of carbides would do the trick.
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Newfie_buell


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

The local rep was riding one here last weekend on a packed down snow-cross track with great success.

Discussing its turning abilities and how it work is going to start a whole new thread.

Come on up here to the "Great White North" and I'll get ya out on one.

I missed the event and we have had heavy rain since then so most of our snow is gone again. I know the promoter of the event and I will post some info once I get to ride it. Now I am wishing for a bloody big snow storm so I can get to try one.

The retail for about $14,000 Canadian here on the island. My ambition to buy the URAL Sidecar Bike is still on the top priority over that.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool. Glad to hear it. I can't imagine wanting any other type of snowmobile then.
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Rokoneer


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Newfie, here's a link to a kit than convert your DR, or your future Ural, to a very Snow Hawk like machine:

http://www.2moto.net/photos/default.htm
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake I've seen one already doing packed snow on a lake no less.I'd say the carbides are at the outer edges and in the center.The ski also pivots quite a bit.Damn I miss snowmobiles.

(Message edited by bads1 on February 17, 2005)
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