| Author | Message | ||
     BadS1  |
Heres a pic I found in this years Racing Sprotrider magazine.I wonder why he was testing with that bodywork???  | ||
| Timbo  |
Better aerodynamics I'd bet. | ||
| Timbo |
Harding Buell had the same bodywork this year. They even tried it at Bonneville.  I think the reason they didn't use it in the FUSA series is because Dan and David didn't feel comfortable enough with it, said it changed the way they hung off the bike. IIRC. Timbo | ||
| BadS1 |
Hey Wes Orloff ran that bike at Bonneville. | ||
| Timbo |
Actually that's a pic of a Harding race team bike this last year at the BUB event in Bonneville (I took the pic). Jeff Harding was the rider. Here is another pic I took with Jeff Harding in the background.  Here is a pic Aaron took.  The J-Dees team did use similar bodywork at Bonneville a year earlier however. Perhaps Wes was their rider, I'm not sure, I wasn't at that particular event. Timbo | ||
| Dsergison  |
fast, ok? but that's some SERIOUSLY ugly stuff. sure hope that doesn't inspire anything coming street side. | ||
| Sportsman |
You're kidding right? That looks like a new version of the old CalTec design. I don't know who's making it but I want one. And for the XB12T guys there looks like there would be potential places to put stuff. | ||
| Timbo |
Sportsman, You are correct, it is very similar to the RR bodywork. If I understand correctly, the bodywork is made by the factory, and they are particular about who they will let have access to it. Kinda like the programmable race ECM, only more so. At least that's what I've heard. | ||
| Madduck |
Timbo, I think wes's bodywork was a one off. this appears to have some significant differences, maybe wes wants to chime in here. I would expect that it may be made at the factory but it is not likely to be a "Buell" product. That PDC does all sorts of stuff for racers without publicity. If Harding called for an experimental fairing that was like the RR bodywork, my guess is PDC could whip up something like that. Customer service is important after all.  | ||
| BadS1 |
Wes is a friend of mine at several of the Brag club that I belong to.The body work was a one off.He brought the bike to a meeting after he set a record on it.I also sat on the bike.Alot like a old RR but way smaller. | ||
| 99buellx1  |
sure hope that doesn't inspire anything coming street side. That "ugly stuff" is Buell history at the forefront. | ||
| Firebolt020283  |
i think it would be kinda neat to have a retro bike like that | ||
| Madduck |
I would buy an R if that bodywork should become available from any source. | ||
| Firemanjim  |
Ugly,my azz.I want--no I need that style bodywork for my bonneville bike!! | ||
| Sleez  |
i'm with you Madduck!!! build it!!! (with hard bags) | ||
| Cubby  |
I'm gonna catch hell for this, but here goes. That body work surely is more aero, and is very retro, but like the VR1000 was in it's day, this would surely make the Buell the ugliest bike on the grid. Yeah I know, opinions are like assholes.... | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
vr1000 was the uglyest bike on the grid?  i thought the vr1000 was a beutiful bike and i think that one is not bad looking eather except for the ram air intakes but i know its performance more than it is for looks and im sure if they made it a prodoction item that was street leagal that would be were the head light would be insted. | ||
| Cubby |
The VR1000 was beautiful, in a retro kinda way, but it looked dated from day one, hich to}de it the ugliest bike on the grid. Remember when the 500cc Red Bull team tried a new fairing to keep up with the new MotoGP bikes?? (If you don't, check out the movie faster.) I'm sorry but that looked like the old GP days with the fully covered front wheels----ugly. I'm proud of H-D and Buell for what they've done and are doing, but that doesn't change the fact that in comparison to current design trends this new fairing looks "clunky". | ||
| Steve_a |
This fairing was almost certainly a Buell, not a PDC project. PDC has almost nothing to do with Buell outside of engine work. I would duck after suggesting to most members of the Buell engineering staff that a Buell chassis component looked like it was done at PDC. Sorta like saying it looked like a tractor part  I suspect the wind tunnel numbers were exceptionally good on this fairing, but that we're not likely to see it because there's a huge difference between what people think looks good and what actually works, as proven by some of the posts on this board. Buell has the hard task ahead of designing fairings that are acceptable to current visual prejudices and that are also aerodynamically efficient -- a tough, if not impossible, job. The XB Firebolt gets part of the way there simply by minimizing frontal area. That's basically the standard sportbike approach these days -- if you make it (A) small, your CdA won't be too bad no matter how inefficient the stylists have made the actual fairing. | ||
| Charlieboy6649  |
Racing should be function, not form... If it's more slippery, use it! Maybe the Cycle World article could be titled, "Look at the ugly bike on the podium!" | ||
| Lake_bueller  |
It may look "clunky" but, if I not mistaken, the old Buell bodywork was the one most aeordynamic body designs ever. Makes sense to try bringing back with a more modern bike. | ||
| Bomber  |
the aero properties of the scoots on the Suberbike grids are pretty poor -- the stealth look may work at elevated speeds (i.e., trans-sonic), but it's really hard to improve on teh Cal Tech stuff for sub-sound speeds -- physics hasn't changed much since then MotoGP ain't much better, I'm guessing | ||
| Sportsman |
1 They were talking about fuel in the tailsection for the 200 on an earlier thread. I thought, what? This body may have a possibility for something far out like that. 2 The front really looks S3Tish and it's easy to envision the tail with indents for molded bags. I think it has possibilities for whoever made it. I'd also like to ride it in the rain to see if you even get wet. (Message edited by sportsman on February 07, 2005) | ||
| Anonymous |
The fairings that look like this were made at Buell, not the PDC. Wes's too. | ||
| SouthernMarine  |
Did someone else see something in the Buell design? . . . . . . . . .   Buell's design did come out before the Hayabusa. (Message edited by southernmarine on February 07, 2005) | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I'm not 100% certain but.....I think Honda was listed somewhere on the patent for the Buell RR bodywork. If I had time, I'd do search. Too busy to even be making this post. Off to meeting #4 today. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
if that is so then why was the rr considered the most aerodynamic bike at the time when it came out? | ||
| Reepicheep  |
I'm digging that Honda in the background that Aaron is sitting on! | ||
| Court |
>>>the old Buell bodywork was the one most aeordynamic body designs ever. That is an accurate statement. The picture of the Hayabusa is fitting. They came to the party late however. The first to "use" the "bumblebee" tail, I believe, saw Suzuki on the GSXR. They, for all intents and purpose, nearly gave thanks to Buell, who'd done it years earlier. The Haybusa still must use raw HP to do what the Buell did with "brains". CAVEAT QUALIFIER: I'm not as up on this as I should be, most of this is hearsay from conversations I've heard bits and pieces of. I'm ready to be corrected, amplified, as needed. | ||
| Bomber |
the mind shudders at the thought of Court, amplified -- |
