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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chuck,
Try ice milk. If you add enough toppings it tastes almost as good as the real stuff.

We won't talk about the beer floats of days gone by. :) And we most definitely won't talk about beer and Cheerios.

I think I'll go to bed now. Got to get up at 3:30 to fly to the motor city tomorrow, gotta rest up my arms.
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Kevl
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

arvel, try the navy MADE me gain 22 lbs.... less than 4 months ago I was about 105 :) yes I'm a lite weight
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S2no1
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevl,

Actually, you'll probably live longer than us "substantial dudes".

Arvel
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikej,
Your a man after my own style! I too have done the Cheerios and beer routine. Did the Sturgis thing with bunch of dirt biker/racer pals many years ago. First night at the camp ground was a wicked party. We has decided we would rise early (7ish) and hit the fire roads. I was the first one up (a miracle in itself!) and went to get a bowl of the little "O's" to start the day out right. Go to the cooler, no milk lots of beer. Grab a can and grab a spot at the main picnic table. Two other guys stumble out of their tent and watch as I poor beer on the cereal. I wasn't really gonna eat it but after seeing their faces turn from pink to green I felt obligated. After two spoonfuls, both guys bolt for the nearest tree and proceed to show why the were green.
Actually didn't taste too bad, must have been the grain on grain thing!

Ahhh, the impetiousness of youth!
Thanks for the memory Mike!


BluzM2
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Kevl
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bluzm2,
what type of beer was it? cause i might have to try that.
kev
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2001 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was Coors!
Waay back when in my high school days it was only available in western states so it was kind of a big deal. When we hit Sturgis, a group would head to Wyoming (Bula or something like that) while the rest set up camp.
Back then, Coors had a push button top. You pressed a small button on one edge of the top to release the pressure then pressed the larger button on the other edge and bent it into the can to make the hole to drink from.
Interesting concept but one small problem. If the cans got too shook up or warm, the little button would pop OUT and spray beer everywhere. Back then story had it that you had to keep Coors cold all the time or it would go funky. Needless to say, we went through alot of ice. Used to have a small stock tank filled with beer and brine water. The beer got REAL cold in the icey brine water. Just the ticket after a hard day on the trail. Did a great job washing down the dust.
We would each try to bring a couple of cases back home but we usually drank it first!

BluzM2
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Dark_Ninja
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2001 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim_M


Somers was sneaking in surgery all right, but she has cancer. That's why the surgery.
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Kevl
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

man...i've GAINED 5 lbs....i guess i really need to start pting again.
kev
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S2no1
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2001 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let see, that puts you at a paltry 134? Pretty soon you may need to move the preload up on that wimpy showa. I've almost out of preload.

Arvel
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Dustykat
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I'll chime in.

6'4" tall, 280 pounds. I will be shooting for 241 which is how much I weighed 2 years ago when I was fighting in the SCA every weekend and working out 2 nights a week.

I have started my every other night weight sessions and expect to be at my target by December.

Wish me luck!

Dustykat
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2001 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

234. Getting a flu/cold bug helped some. :)
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todd
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mikej, 3500 bags a day? If that a 8 hr shift thats 1 bag every 8.22 secs, consistainly without figuring any breaks for anything (like pissing or getting a drink)

if a 10 hr shift thats 1 every 10.28 secs.

Im not sure how many bales of hay a guy would throw in a day, but i've moved rolled roofing products of up to 110+ lbs apeice from pallet to pallet. I have loaded a roof with 35 squares (105- 70# bundles)3 tab shingles out of the back of a pickup truck from a pallet to over me head a nd passing it off to a crew of 4 guys on the roof in 15 minutes give or take a little. thats 1 bundle every 8.57 secs. And thats moving FAST. i can't imagine keeping up that pace for 8 hrs. The # you quote seems like an awful lot to me. it's not the weight that i ? so much as the volume of work.

Just how far were you moving them bags? And from what height? a little more detail please.


Im not dissing you or saying your lying, or that it's impossible, but that falls under the " i'll belive it when i see it catagorey" :<]

if it's true tho, what would b the record for anyone?

by the way im fasinated by real strenght feats, espacially olympic lifting, overhead pressing and the so called "odd lifts"

If you having trouble losing FAT ( as opposed to muscle, there is a big differance) try the atkins diet or some variation of it. Its a man's diet cause you get to eat as much meat as you want. Even bacon and such
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Dgemal
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi all,

Am I glad I found this category. At last I realise I am not the only fat f*ck out there on a Buell.

Am I the biggest on a Blast though?

Lets see... 257 pounds... and only 5'10"
Waist size 44"

My wife has me on the weight watcher's diet. the one where you spend so much time drinking water, peeing and counting up your points, you don't get a chance to eat to put on or maintain weight :)

I bought the Blast with the intention of upgrading either to the Harley or a bigger Buell within the year... I expected to get at least 6 months out of the Blast.

The other day I was riding home from work and this guy pulls up next to me and asks me if i think I am a little too big for my bike. Says I look like Krusty the Clown doing his bicycle trick on the Simpsons.

I nearly headed straight over to the dealership to trade up there and then :)

If the money situation was better I would of :)

I will keep you all informed on my progress too.

I am doing Weight Watcher's, playing tennis, walking and swimming. I am not up to the jogging or running stage yet... lets see how it goes.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

todd,

Picture a flour mill. Picture a room with a dozen or so huge funnels hanging from elevated silos with augers at the bottom about 12"-16" in diameter. Picture a big pile of heavy cotton sacks. Picture a weigh scale similar to a balance beam scale in a doctors office, only of industrial heft. Place the scale 90° to your left as you face the auger chute.

Step one: grab a bag off the pile on your right as you face the auger.
Step two: swing flip open and slide the bag over the bottom opening of the augered chute funnel thing.
Step two-A: as you are putting the bag around the mouth of the auger chute you hit a foot pedal that starts the auger motor for a set number of seconds, usually about 3 seconds or so.
Step two-B: watch where your fingers are because there are some clamps at the top of the chute that you have to get the bag into before they clamp down after you hit the floor pedal.
(Note: step two is where the "art and practice" of being a _packer_ comes into play. If your timing is off you now have 100 pounds of flour on the floor and an irate supervisor due to excess spillage.)
Step three: once the bag is full, the clamps release and the jaw clamp slides back up the tube via springs ready for the next bag, and the auger has stopped spinning inside the chute. Once the clamps release you lift and swing the bag of flour 90° to your left requiring about a 6" or so lift off the chute/auger platform and onto the scales.
Step four: you may or may not have to add or remove a little flour from the bag with a grain scoop into or out of a flour bin sitting behind the scale. You do this one handed because your left hand is getting ready for step four-A.
Step four-A: Grab a date coded tag on a string from a pile to the left of the scales.
Step four-B: with both hands you close and grasp the top of the flour sack and quicky wrap the string/twine twice around the bag with a half-overlap over itself and over your right hand fingers on the second lap.
Step four-C: Your now overlapped right fingers pull the loose end of the string thru basically making a cinch knot as you give the tag end and free ends a tug to secure the top closed.
(Note: If you do not get a good wrap or cinch or bite on closing the bag it will explode open as you do step five all over the conveyor belt. Only this time in addition to the supervisor getting all upset, the warehousmen will also be upset as a line of loose flour now heads down the conveyor belt to shower them in a flour waterfall all over the warehouse floor. You will then be very apologetic as you hit the conveyor belt emergency stop button and grab a broom to help clean up the spillage.)
Step five: Lift the full bag of cinch closed flour up about 6"-12", and with a top leading swing you lift the bag off the scales and allow the bottom of the bag to swing past between the auger-tube and the scales and over onto a slide chute to allow the flour bag to slide down onto the conveyor belt that is running between the back-to-back auger-tubes/chutes.
(Note: If you attempt to simply let the top of the bag fall over onto the slide-chute/tray you will end up with a lot of exploding bags as the cinch knots can't handle the pressure. You have to lead with the bottom to avoid excess spillage.)
Step six: As you complete the throw you continue to pivot around clockwise to the right to grab another empty bag as you right foot is raising up to hit the foot lever as you are getting ready to repeat steps one-thru-five ending with six again.

That little 6 step dance routine would take an average of 5 seconds a bag. Any slower and you wouldn't make your quota for the night. Any faster and you have more exploding bags due to errors in handling or knotting. 5 seconds worked out about right, and would include two lifts of each full bag of flour.

Now there were tricks you could learn with practice by using momentum in the swing of the bag to ease the workload. But the bottom line is that it was a WHOLE lot of lifting. Short lifts yes, but still lifts.

There were other packing lines that I worked on that used sewing machines instead of bag tie wraps. Some of the sewing machines were stationary and the bags would go past on a conveyor belt to the tune of 7,000-15,000 per shift. Other lines had the sewing machines hanging on cables and you had to get a rythm going with the packing where the sewing machine would be swinging in a constant circular motion and you would time placing the full bags (of grain or flour or mix in this case) into the path of the sewing machine, and the auto-start trigger on the mouth of the sewing machine would start the machine as the leading edge of the bag would insert the mouth slot, and would stop the engine after the bag exited the mouth, at which point you would give the bag a little shove to force the string/threads against a cutter on the following edge of the sewing machine mouth and cut the string, and would also begin the momentum for the next swing of the sewing machine as you threw/tossed the bag onto the conveyor belt chute and would do the dance routine of grabbing another empty bag, auger/chute it, scale it, and sew it one more time. With the sewn bags you could be a little less carefull with when throwing them, but you had to ensure you had a good stitch otherwise the grain would explode all over the place as the improperly sewn seam gave way.

Still other packing lines were for tape-sewn bags just like on some dogfood bags (yes, they also made dog food).

Once you got the rythm and routine down it was fairly easy to keep pace. But if you got out of sync it would get extreamly messy. Some guys never did get it down so they ended up doing other jobs in the mill.

If you ever are around any big farm, especially any that grow grass seed or grain for export, ask to watch them pack bags. Very similar with the hanging sewing machines, only in the barns you usually have a gravity fed silo, sometimes with augers, and the hanging ropes for the sewing machines are often at least 20 feet long to get a smooth enough and long enough swing of the sewing machine.

So, in a huge nutshell, yes I did used to throw that many bags around, and usually did my quota in several hours less than my 8-hour shift. The warehouse/longshoremen's union set the bag quota. The grain miller's union complied. The company complained and tried all sorts of schemes to get us to increase our output. But when the warehouse had a stop button on their end of the conveyor belt there wasn't a whole lot one could do after the belt stopped.

After working in a flour mill for a few years, it's no wonder I have a semi-consistant small cough. Flour mill workers have something similar to coal miners, where the miners have black-lung disease, and the mill workers have white-lung disease. I gave up that line of work after a little over two years. Not the healthiest line of work, but great if you want to build your upper body. Picture high reps of heavy to medium to light weights with short strokes, then go watch some of the muscle bulk-builders do their size-increasing routines with short stroke high rep workouts.

Blake will probably delete this under the reason of "questions that shouldn't have been answered". And to think, this was the short answer. :)
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ATT: Dgemal
There goes another set of rear ISOLATORS!!!!!!!!
Just replaced mine at 36K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In buelling
BUELLISTIC
and/or Hardley-Harley
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