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Porker
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey everybody, Sorry this is so off topic. I bought my wife a Honda Hawk NT650 GT recently and have it apart to re-build. One of my co workers destroyed the fuel tank trying to repair it and I have exhausted all of my resources. Can any of you Badwebbers help me out?? Any leads ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Riding season is soon and my wife is heartbroken.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a friend who rides one. How much is it worth to ya? joker
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Porker
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

money talks I guess !! I'm willing to pay top dollar !! LOL
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.powersportspro.com/Partsfish/v2/addvyear.asp?M=210

I'm hoping this works for you but this site has that bike listed as having parts for it. You can buy them on there.http://www.powersportspro.com/
If the first link doesn't work go to this one and register for the site. There you can go in and find your the bike your looking for through their catalog. If you need help just ask. I found the tank listed on there for $486. It's pricy I know, but this is an OEM product. Brand new. If all else fails least you can get back on the road with this.

(Message edited by cataract2 on January 29, 2005)
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Porker
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cataract2, thank you very much for the link.I may well end up trying them as my local dealer says the tank is obsolete from Honda. I,m sure there are a few new OEM tanks kicking around the country.
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Firemanjim


Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cycle salvage places can put it on a hot line just like an auto wrecker.One of my sponsors is a cycle salvage/repair place.Where are you?

(Message edited by firemanjim on January 29, 2005)
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Pammy
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1-800-334-4045 Willie's Cycle.They have an extensive inventory and many connections.
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Porker
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Guys, I will check out Willie's .
Hey Fireman, I'm in Vancouver B.C. where it just stopped raining after recieving more rain in the past two weeks than we've had in 6 months.
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Porker
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For a laugh I will tell you guys how the thing was destroyed. One of my co-workers / friends has been procrastinating for over a month with regards to repairing a dent in the front corner of the tank. Anyhow, I drained the fuel months ago and the tank has been sitting in his work station for all this time with the cap locked....So he decides last minute he is going to fix it and comes to me asking for the key to the cap, which happens to be at home (5 min away) . I call my wife who says she'll be right there with the key. I assume he's asking for the key because he's gonna swish some water around and then fill it up(like we had discussed previously) so the tabs he's planning to weld on won't cause an explosion.Well.....That's not exactly what happend,I was totally unaware he went ahead and welded the tabs to the tank while I was in the office. Next thing you know another worker is in the office looking at me grinning away, "Hey Miles, good news is Dan's not dead, bad news is you need a new tank" "I guess you didn't drain ALL the fuel out huh". I'm speechless at this moment, hoping my co-worker is not hurt. Turns out he's fine but my tank looks like a giant sea turtle. apparently it started making strange rumbling noises and instantly puffed up like a balloon before blowing a hole on the underside and propelling itself up to the 30 foot ceiling and bouncing back on the table !!! It's too bad I missed it. Needless to say Dan went home early, Presumably to change his shorts.
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Swampy


Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You cannot weld on fuel tanks
PERIOD!
No matter how much water is in the tank, there is never enough!
The dry tank still has fuel in the seams and when that gets hot it turns to fumes and the story goes, even with water in it, it just makes a wet explosion!
I have seen a guy weld a patch over a hole on a diesel fuel tank.
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12bolt


Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats funny, I patched up the tank on my old FLH with a welder a few times. No problems.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now, that would have been a site to see. I can just picture this.
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Krassh


Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is some stuff I found while surfing:

The Hawk is severely range-limited by it’s small tank. There are a few options out there for increased range. BD Tech has a kit to adapt an F2 tank fairly simply and these can be picked up used for not much money. At the other end of the spectrum, there are carbon fiber/carbon-kevlar tanks made by Kiyo Watanabe and MotoMorphic. These are beautiful, but pricey. Paul Ritter used to make expanded metal tanks, but has stopped due to an accident. I decided to do the Expanded-Tank method for my Hawk.

After THOROUGHLY cleaning the tank out with non-flammable brake cleaner and electrical contact cleaner, I flushed it with large amounts of water. After air-drying for a few days, I took it to a local fabricator and explained what I wanted and used photos and pictures to make a plan. Basically, the roof was raised about 2” all around. There is a problem area in the front, in that it has to be sectioned back so that the angle to get to the front tank mounting bolt remains the same. He did mention that the metal was thin and warp-prone, but with a little bondo and paint, and a sealing kit from POR-15 on the inside, I had a 4.9 gallon tank.

Another trick I did was to cut a small section of the splash lip near the filler hole – this allows almost a quart or so more to fit in near the top & I haven’t had any overflow problems since.

This was posted on a message board for the Hawk

Here is the Service Manual online.
http://hawkworks.net/manual/

Here is the parts list online.
http://hawkworks.net/hawkfiche/
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Craigster
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hadn't read this yet.

Get the Megacycle cams for that thing....A pipe, set of unifilters and the cams yield about 64-66 hp, up from 37 stock.

I worked for superbike team in the 80's that raced a 650GT. That bike had lots of potential.
Our last iteration had the machine as a wet-sleve 750 churning out over 100 hp. We out ran the Ducatis but could never quite match Two Brothers with their RS750 dirt track motored Hawk. had lots of fun with that one. Still have fond memories.

Good luck.
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Porker
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for your help guy's, I found a tank in Kansas at OZ salvage. Because it's so rare I had no bargaining power but I'm happy to find one. I made over 125 long distance phone calls yesterday !! And OZ was the only place that had one.

Yeah, we really lucked out. The bike only has 16,ooo origional km's. Apparently when the bike had 8,000 k on it the engine developed a knock so the previous owner went to town on the motor. He is well connected in the motorcycle industry and had Mike Velasco build the motor apparently. Headwork, cams, balanced and knife edged crank, Wiseco big bore hi comp set and MVR complete exhaust system. Oddly enough, it has stock jetting and air box so I have ordered Two Bros stage three jets and unipod filters with some velocity stacks from webber that I made fit. I just finished rebuilding the forks and adding Race Tech springs and cartridge emulator and am in the middle of polishing the forks and wheels (taking forever by hand. Not bad for my wifes first bike. Hopefully one day she can ride my XB.
I'm just finding out now there capable of decent power.
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Craigster
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like the old Hawk has some honk under the hood.

Beware! Once you get past 88 hp, the Hawks like to eat crankshafts. When the bike would vibrate and start to run slow, it was time pit and call it a day. That was followed by a teardown as the crank had developed cracks and was ready to snap.

Kevin Cameron's old shop was sold to Dave Harold out in Gill Ma. I'm not sure if he's still there or not, but they used to turn the inlet of the Hawk carbs on a lathe and smooth them out like a velocity stack. With that mod the stock CV would flow almost as much as a smoothbore CR. Kevin and Dave originally did the development and testing of the conversion back to CV. (there were no down draft Smooth bores at the time so we used side draft K-CRs with remote Ammal float bowls). Not sure if any one else has ever performed that work, but if you can find Davhar Racing or someone else to do the work for you the cost is about 1/3 the price of a set of smoothbores with 97% of the flow.

Sounds like your wife is going to have one hell of a first bike!
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