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Mikej
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about using this thread for making various plans for anyone wanting or planning on going for one of the IronButt goals.

With that in mind, here goes:
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I was thinking of several options, sort of like Iamike's ideas.
Option 1: Timed around the Lurch in the Middle ride (boy that doesn't sound right, sorry:)). Schedule rides for that week/weekend with the destination or starting point someplace in Nebraska. Gives everyone at least one common check point. That would be less than 1,000 miles for me, so I'd work out some sort of roundabout way to get there with the required miles. This would also allow me to link up with others. For instance, here to LaCrosse for me is about 190 miles, for BluzM2 it's about 160 miles, for Iamike it's about 176 miles, putting all of us at a somewhat central point within 30 miles of each other. Additional people can be figured in, I'm just using us three as examples at this point.
I forget where the new track is located in Nebraska, so I'll just be stupid and say Lincoln so I can have some numbers to play with. LaCrosse to Lincoln per the initial Mapquest "suggested" route is about 460 miles. We need 1000+, subtract our individual 200 miles (I'll add 10, others can add what they need on the way to LaCrosse), subtract 460 direct to Lincoln, and that leaves about 340 miles to accumulate. I figure 340 additional miles should be easy to add by riding south along the Mississippi, or by heading west to the Missouri river and wandering indirectly southward from there to the NE track location. Or something like that. This ain't carved in stone.

Option #2: Similar to #1, only focused around Breckenridge. But maybe do the IB run on the return from CO. That way nobody gets altitude sickness, and everybody has their own nice warm beds at home to aim for at the end of the ride. Log in once home and post the arrival times to let everyone know you got home. Bulk of the ride could be as a group. And we could join together for a more leisurely ride to Breck, and to check out return route conditions. Again, all subject to change and adjustments and whatnot.

Option #3: aka:The Biggie. I'm thinking this would be a cross country special, meeting up with the west coast ride for those of us east of the Rockies. Snag an IronButt, and maybe a BunWarmer in one long ride. Then rest once there to get ready for the rest of the trip with the west coast folks. Or work an IronButt on the westward leg, and a BunWarmer on the eastward leg of the total trip. (I hope I got those category names correct, I should go check the IB page, maybe later.)

Option #4: Similar to the others, only focused towards the Bonneville LSR events next September. Crank off 1000+ miles, crank off a 130+mph certified run, then head home for much needed rest.

Option #5: Sturgis. Same as before, only focused on Sturgis as the destination.

Option #6: Call this one a "Find the mountains" run. Get the 1000 in, then take a week to relax and ride the mountains with no time/mileage goals.

Option #7-#90: Whatever other ideas anyone has. Could be a MardiGras run, Daytona run, CART races run. Anything. Just anyplace someone has in mind for a destination, only click off an IB as part of the ride plan, or as the only planned part of a ride then freeform it from there.

So, anyway, that should be enough to get the talk started, or continued, assuming anyone is still awake at this point. And once completed everyone can follow in V2win's typeprints and post their individual ride reports in the IB Tales section.

Also, this doesn't have to be something where everybody does this all together. I mean, some people can work this for the Lurch run, and another group can work towards the Breck days. I just think it'd be neat to late next summer go read the IronButt awards page and see hundreds of Buells listed all of a sudden, there are some there already, but there aren't hundreds there. Could be fun. And if someone wanted to ride something different than a Buell, then that's okay by me because it's all about the ride, not only about what you ride.

g'nite,
Mike.
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Gomo
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't get me wrong I love my S3T, but the idea of using it in an ironbutt rally would cripple me. I have only limited knowledge of the event, but at 1000 miles a day on the Buell sounds painfull. Granted mine is mostly stock and if you have any info on increasing its comfort, I sure would greatly appreciate it. Good luck if you decide to do your quest.
Remember - Cars Suck
GOMO
AMA/HOG/BRAG
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gomo,
This past July, I did about 820 miles in a day.
My M2 is stock as far as seating, pegs and such. I could have easly done the 2.5 hrs to get to 1K.
I really wasn't that bad. I think the S3 would be a little easier as you have a bit more wind protection.
Of course body demensions come into play, I'm about 5'10", short inseam. The M2 fits real well.

I'm really looking forward to knocking off a SaddleSore 1K next year.

The BunBurner is a 1.5K effort in 24 or 36 hrs. That may be a bit much for me.

BTW all, check out Iron Butt Website for details on rides and necessary documentation.
Brad
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Captlusk
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For what it's worth, I'm 6'02" 210lbs and did a 800 mile day on my S-3 this last May. I'm not saying I wasn't sore, of course I'm fortyfive and I'm sure that had somthing to do with it, but I think the Iron Butt is a doable thing on an S-3. One thing I did do is put the 2000 seat on my 98 S-3, the stock seat really was a pain. The other thing was a Throttlemeister throttle lock. Really helps on those long interstates.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paul,
Next long trip, I'm going to install a throttle lock probably a Vista Cruise (cheap and simple to install). I used a throttle rocker for the last trip but I'm having problems with carpal tunnel in my right wrist. The lock would help tons. It sucks when your thumb, index and 2nd finger go to sleep for days after a really long ride.

Brad
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Jasonl
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did 760+ miles on my 98 S3 in one day getting to Caps. I know Eviltwn rode MUCH further than that on his X1 in a day. Then MikeP (Manhattan Mike) and Trousercough went up 4 more states than I on the way home in one day. Mike rides and S1 and Trouser has an X1.

It can be done.
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Evltwn
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did indeed do 1038 miles in 22 hours on my X-1. The only thing that sucked was it rained for 9 hours straight.

My shoulders and neck were the most sore, otherwise I felt great :)

LURCH

MikeJ,

Omaha - Denver - Omaha 1058 miles
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did several 800-900 mile days and an 1100+ one on my trip to Blue Ridge Parkway via SW regional Rally on my S-2.It was not as bad as I feared.You just have to get used to the long rides by doing longer and longer ones til your up to it.Be advised to keep up blood sugar as you CAN doze off on a bike.(Ask me how I know--almost needed new underwear)
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Racerboy
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great to see all this interest in IBA rides...About a year and a half ago I did my first Saddlesore 1000 on a 98 FLTRI Road Glide...Very comfy...Then last fall, after acquiring a R1100RT I did a Bun Burner 1500 in 36 and a few weeks ago did a 1500 in 24...The first two were "easy" (if any of these are), the 1500/24 is a real "test"...

In '97 Fran Crane, one of our most illustrious LD riders, ran the IBR on a S3T...Her ride is still talked about in the LDrider community...Saddly Fran is no longer riding with us as a result of a fatal error made during medical treatment after a single vehicle accident during the '99 IBR...As far as I know Fran is the only rider to attempt or finish the IBR on a Buell and she finished 17TH!!!...

My 2001 S3T has over 10,000 miles already and I would not hesitate to ride a 1,000 or 1,500 mile ride but obviously the RT has much better weather protection and it's the bike I've set up for these kind of rides...My 1500/24 was completed with temps in the mid 20's, heat turned up all the way (vest, gloves, grips) and I could not keep up with the long exposure and core body heat loss...I lost 1 1/2 hours of riding time during the last 8 hours as I had to get into buildings to warm...

Planning is the key to these rides and I've noticed that most are ridden alone...Think of the time you've stopped for a buddy when you didn't need to youself...

Once you do one of these you'll find many more possibilites of where you can travel by moto...

Good luck and ride safe!

Bob
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Tricklidz
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Iron-butt rides...
One word- "Airhawk"

800 miles. Deals Gap- to PA..12 hrs.
97 S3 - 99 seat, Banke per risers.

I'm 47, with a boney a**..
not bad, really!

ps. Music helps...but didn't have it then!
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lurch,
Sounds like you had a lunch appointment that day, quick round trip.

Iamike,
I tried to play with mapquest earlier but somehow messed it up, but your loop looks like it would work. From what I've read we'd need enough fun roads to have fun, but enough not-so-fun roads to get the miles in. I'll start playing with closer point-to-point destinations to get a better mileage estimate.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BluzM2, Iamike, others in the area:
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Waverly, IA => Dubuque = 111.7
Dubuque => Janesville, WI = 95.4
Janesville => Racine = 82.3
Racine => Elkhart Lake = 90.2
Elkhart Lake => Green Bay = 54.4
Green Bay => Iron Mountain, MI = 98.0
Iron Mountain => Ironwood, MI = 127.4
Ironwood => Duluth MN = 108.9
Duluth => Minneapolis = 154.7
Minneapolis => Waverly = 199.5
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1122.5 total miles, 4 states, and most of the roads should be posted 50mph or better. Could cut around the west side of Lake Winnebago to drop a few miles and gain some time/distance over the back roads. Could also bypass Janesville and beeline up 151 from Dubuque into Madison and then slab it into Milwaukee. Plenty of options to hit freeways or backroads to save time or add mileage.
This route would run fairly close to each of our places, so we could have staggered starts, and still provide support or tools if needed. The farther north we go would mean a later start in the year. I'm thinking each of us could decide on a gas stop, and wait there with the paperwork for our individual start ready to go, then fill up the tank when the others arrive and get the time dated receipt, and take off for the next stop. Could call ahead from the previous gas stop to give each of us an hour or two to get ready and be waiting at the meeting point. Would take a little coordination though.

Just an idea. Still lots of time to think about it.

MikeJ (thinking of tweaks and mods to the bike this winter)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MikeJ,
I like the sounds of this route. I like the idea of running it "counter-clockwise".
We would need to decide on a starting point. Since I'm the lone Mpls rider (so far anyway), I could start early and head south to pick up Mike and company, then head toward the east picking you up in WI. Unfortunately, that would leave you with a long solo ride back home from the Waverly area.
If we ran the loop the other way, you still have a long final leg. Which ever way we do it, someone will ride a solo leg at the end.

I need to find time to hit the maps. Should be able to later this week.

Brad (Sunny and 71 today! Sunny and 68 tommorow and its November!)
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Mike_E
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Brad, count me in on this little run, Sounds like a good way to start the season next year.

Mike E
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Waverly to Hartland is just a good stretch of the legs. :)

MikeJ (Still thinking of riding vs shipping the M2 home.)(If this weather stays like this much longer it will be an easy decision.)
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Werewulf
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how about iron bikes? how many miles are these buells good for in street driving before a tear down? i put a lot of miles on mine, im trying to compute what ive got left
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike_E,
Good to hear from you! Great, I'm really planning on this one.
Sounds like it's just a matter of figuring the logistics/timing.
If we figure 1100 miles and avrage around 60 mph, we should be done in about 18 1/2 hrs.

I need to pick up a new IL map. Mine is MIA somewhere along the way.

Brad

MikeJ, we should have done the ride last weekend! Can you believe this weather!!
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, this weather is spooky-nice, too good to be true.
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Warewulf:

You can put many many miles on a Buell. The only problem is that peformance might diminish somewhat as carbon deposits oclude the air/fuel-combusted gas passages.

jose
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a new one, talked to a freind in chicago, he works owns a leather shop on western(road king) and he sounded very interested in making his shop a start end point for a 1000 mile effort, not sure what he is willing to do but it might be fun plus it would help him with a little exposure if anyones interested drop a line,
Now what about the great lakes ride 2400 miles in a 100 hrs whos up for that
Roger
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roger,
Is the Great Lakes route posted someplace? Probably on the IronButt page, right?
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Iamike
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2001 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi guys,
I finally found this subject, I figured I'd better check in. I'm game for about any route, in fact I think there was a comment from St.Louis that he was interested too. Would have to look back through the archives though to find the name.

It looks like I may still be going to Alaska this summer so I'd better get the IB out of the way early. We can keep planning and see what happens. I like the idea of not relying on any one person just in case it doesn't fit the schedule or other problems. I know I'd hate to back out at the last minute and screw up someones plans. One of the guys that were supposed to go to Breckenridge with me backed out at the last minute. I had already decided I'd go by myself if I had to. Thanks BluzM2 for meeting up. It made the trip a whole lot more fun.

Even though the weather was great this week I didn't get the bike out at all. I did some serious bicycling trying to burn off some of the excess calories that I'm planning on taking on the next couple of weeks.

Mike
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just freshening this up and bringing it back to the top. Almost time to start thinking about plans and dates and routes and such. Probably in the next four weeks I'll be highlighting some maps for possible routes and doing some road construction searches.

Anyway, take care.
MikeJ
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,

Speaking of Iron Butts.....

Went for a quick cruise with the new Corbin seat last night. The verdict is still out on increased comfort levels. I felt the 2" set back put more pressure on the wrists. I only went about 15 miles and this is only the second time back on the bike this year. . This Sunday should be a better test (if it doesn't friggin snow!!!)

Later,
Mennis
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Blastin
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mennis,

The Corbin will take about 1,000 miles to break in.(Doesn't help with the wrists though)

Mike,

Keep us informed
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Racerboy
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let V2WIN and I know if any of your IB rides are going to take you near (within say 200 miles) of St Louis and we'll try to link up...

Also, if anyone has trouble in or near STL, they can give me a call at 314.821.0776 (days) or 636.938.3788 (evenings)...

I'm going to be riding down to the Deal's Gap area several times again this summer in prep for the Sept rally...Usually leave late Friday afternoon from the office and get into Rob and Leslie's (Deal's Gap Motorcycle Resort) about 4 in the am...Catch a few hours and then ride Sat and leave the area about noon on Sunday to be home by 10 pm...These are great IB training rides...I'll publish when I am going to be doing these here...

TIP: The Journal of the American Medical Association recently published an article showing that the time of peak dear/moose/elk activity is one hour after local sunset...Aha! A good time to be taking a break/dinner/nap/whaterver or to be especially aware and scanning like one of those disks on the mast of a warship...

Have fun with these rides...There is nothing like the feeling of sunrise after riding all night...

See Ya!

Bob
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Gomo and anyone else interested in making their Buell more comfortable,

To make the Buell more comfortable get a Corbin Seat. When I bought my S1 last June there was a Corbin already on it. The dealer threw it in at no extra cost. Seeing I only paid $10,000. Canadian for a new 98 S1 the deal was even better.


I never even drove the S1 before I bought it. The first trip on it I logged about 1500km or about 900mi and was not even sore. I have since tried the stock seat and it is no comparison to the Corbin.

Have a safe Iron Butt
Bill

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Iamike
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bob,
That was one of the ideas I thought of, was to draw a big loop and have people come on and drop off. I figured it might make it a litttle more interesting than meeting at a single point.
The logistics of doing it that way may be hard though, unless some were willing to go into the weekdays with their portion of the ride.
We can keep kicking it around and see what happens. I pretty much have my schedule set up for the spring so I can decide whether I'm in or not.
MIke
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