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Pcmodeler


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

.....and felt like they must have been riding a Buell?
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Dhutty
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love that book. Would've been wonderful if it coulda been a Buell. It was a BMW wasn't it? I don't recall, BMW or Triumph in my mind.
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Dino


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I recall correctly, his buddy that started the trip with him was on a BMW. I'm not sure he ever said what he was riding. Wasn't his buddy suffering from a lack of insight into the true meaning of life 'cause his Beemer just refused to break down? Didn't have to spin the wrenches so he couldn't get no zen?

I got about 3/4 of the way through that book and just couldn't go on. Too much thinking required.
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Pcmodeler


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I don't fully remember the details. Been a while since I read it. I know I still have it somewhere in my book collection.
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Reepicheep


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He never said what the bike was, but I am pretty sure it was a triumph based on "clues" throughout the book.

The motorcycle parts of the story were great (all 5% of them).
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Whistle
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AWESOME book. I've read it 3 times and I'm in the process of re-reading it for the 4th time. I was under the impression he was riding a Honda??? He mentioned in the beginning that he had just upgraded to a 45 hp or so bike. I think... Anyway, very good book. The later chapters are definitely thinking intense and if you try to skim through you're liable to have a catastrophic brain malfunction, but anywho....
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Whistle
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK so I was wrong...I found the full text online...cool...
"Now we are on a twenty-eight-horse machine and I take the maintenance of it very seriously"
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Lovematt


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Way cool book...I read it as part of my college required reading for...get this...technical writing. It was meant to give a convey the need to think in different ways and have different viewpoints when you write technical manuals (which I do) so that a given concept is explained in a generic and easily understood way.

I still pick it up every few years and read it again cause I love the way the storyline goes.
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Dino


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait, are you saying the book is written in an "easily understood way". Boy do I feel dumb!

I agree with Reep...loved the 5% that was about motorcycles and the ride.
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Dsergison


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PICS
http://www.zmmquality.org/gallery/Pictures-Robert-Pirsigs-original-1968-trip/aar
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Djkaplan


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I'm one of the few people that couldn't stand the book. I'm an avid reader, but I just could not stay interested in the story and the meandering thoughts of the writer.

I tried again just recently to read it again. I got maybe 25 pages into it and am even more convinced that I'll never get to the end.

It looks good on the bookshelf though. Makes me look more well read than I really am.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read it a few times and it is not the kind of book that you can just read. You have to really digest it, and not move on until you've understood what he's trying to say - even if it means re-reading a page or paragraph 5 times.

I will read it again. I always find something new in it.
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Pcmodeler


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those photos were extremely clear/sharp for being taken in 1968.
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Peter


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excellent book.
Whenever I'm on a trip for a few weeks, I take it to re-read. Never fails to help me see my life in a better way.
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Lornce


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Near as I could piece it together from clues throughout the book (hp, rpm's etc), he was riding a CB350 or something similar.... but that's entirely beside the point.

Great book, very transporting. ; )
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S2pengy


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never could read it gave up several times but got it as a book on tape and found it weird but good..
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Dino


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Those photos were extremely clear/sharp for being taken in 1968."

Is that a joke? We weren't drawing on cave walls with charred sticks in 1968. We had Nikons, Leicas, Canons, Ektachrome, Kodachrome...soon after, electricity would be invented and we would have flash too!

Appears Robert's bike was a Honda CB77 305 Superhawk?

I want his buddy's BMW...bad.
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Lornce


Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That site's amazing.

The pictures seem surreal after having read the book so often over so many years. The subject matter, so excruciatingly personal, leaves you knowing the characters intimately. To put faces to them after all this time is strangely moving. For me, anyway.

That really was a special book.
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Cerbero


Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

an amazing book... one of the few that i cannot part with... his meditations on quality have really influenced my life!

as for his bike (photos aside) i remember reading somewhere that the make/model of robert's bike is left out on purpose... can't remember why though...

but for some reason, i can't forget the story of the loose bmw handlebars and the beer can shim.

...c
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read it. Always imagined the bike was a Honda. Don't know why. Great book. I wish I could organize my thoughts the way the lead character could as he traveled down the road on two wheels. Ever try that? To really conduct an organized logical analysis via thought only. Tough to do.
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Hans


Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 03:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah. The strange thing was, that I found it accidentally in the public library, while searching for a technical subject. Remarkable book with the wrong title.
Hans
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Devdawg


Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great book...It's brought up often, surprisingly by non-riders as well, within the Intelligence Community as an aid to see the many different perspectives of any given situation or event.

I recommend it offend. I know it can be hard to get through which is why the unabridged audio tape/CD is perfect for long trips when a tape or CD player is available. I've listened to it a couple of times during moves or long travel periods.
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