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Lornce


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmn, XB's sales higher in Europe than America, eh?

Choppers have a European following too, just not nearly as mainstream as North America's.

Spirited or sport-type riding, and the bikes that engender it, have always enjoyed greater popularity in the UK and Europe than North America. It shows in the caliber of the average street rider. The sort of rider who could appreciate the XB platform.

Hmmmmn, Iowa's plains in July or a series of Alpine passes? Horses for courses? Hmmmn?

Sport riders remain the minority player in North America's market demographic: Lots of reasons for that. If the insurance cartels have their way, it'll only get worse.

There's also the minor issue of a tanked US economy.

Some rambling thoughts on the topic....

While no chopper guy, your bike looks pretty neat from here, Justin. "Whatever blows yer hair back!"

Ho ho ho,
Lornce
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a cool chopper even if it is a trike. Hard to get any lower to the ground.
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You are looking at a "real" chopper here. Spideys bike before the big transformation. Now it has an XB front end, S1 rear end.
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Chainsaw


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't overlook the MPG of the Buell's compared to other brands overseas. Could be a major selling point in countries where gas is $5 a gallon (albeit $3 of that is tax).
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Then you have Dana's "chopper" as well.
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My "chopper" or as close as its going to be. Dont know if its real bike though, only 62,000 miles on it as of now. I gotta start riding it more.
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BadS1


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't she sweet???Man I miss her.Didn't get to finish her.Fork lowers were to be painted as well as the triple trees the color of the bike and the swingarm,forks and front and rear brake calipers were to be chromed.It would of done well at the shows after that.Just a couple more thousand and it would of been done
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is my chopper/bobber. 80 honda 750, rigid frame, spoke wheels, dual disc front end,tank will be below backbone and above engine. Front wheel will be black like rear wheel. solo seat with shocks in upright tube in frame. 18" wheel with 130 tires front and rear. No chrome on bike when done either aluminum finish or painted. Haven't decided on paint scheme yet. Wheel base is 61", so it will be short and stocky, kinda like an old 50's flat track racer.
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honda bobber
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

honda bobber
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

78suzuki
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That motor is going look huge in that tiny frame, I like it.

So you are going to setup the tank like the Flying Pan bike then? Sweet.
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The tank is going to be sort of like Hank Youngs flying series with the hanging tank. except it will have no visible straps and it will have about 1 1/2" ridge running down the center top of the tank. You should go to youngchopper.com, there you will see some excellent chooper/bobbers. The two tone red/black bike above is a 78 suzuki built the friend who is helping me with mine.
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a tuff looking bike
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Old school style honda chopper.
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is a tough looking old honda, be fun to ride and beat on. Go to www.zerochop.com , check out those choppers. See what the Japanese are doing with harleys, no bling, no bullshit, just hardcore choppers
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the late '60s and early'70s a lot of people rode choppers. Around here, you could buy a Basket case Indian Chief for $50.00. A runner was $100.00. A friend of mine bought a Knucklehead engine for $75.00 and we all laughed at him because he got taken. I owned a couple of rigids. We never went too far. My longest trip was around 300 miles, and that was a major accomplishment. In 1973, I got a Moto Guzzi V7 Sport, and a month later, I rode from Colorado Springs to Lafayette, LA and back in three days. that trip was 2500 miles. I learned what good suspension did for mileage.
I consider most modern day "choppers" to be like solid gold peckers. They may be bright and shiny, but they don't work or feel as good as the real thing.
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Tom_b


Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats because most modern day choppers aren't really choppers. Prefabricated assembly line frames, tanks, bars, billet wheels. Very few chopper builders actually chop a stock frame which is what choppers originally were. Also very few choppers are garage built by owners and such like in the old days. The Honda and suzuki above are stock frames that were chopped and still retain stock vin#'s. they were hand built in a small shop with no prefab b/s hanging on them. So the two I posted are actual chopper/bobbers, they are neither particularly bright or shiny. Kind of like their owners. LOL
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Brucelee
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"There's also the minor issue of a tanked US economy"

I think the Europeons would take our "tanked economy" any old time.

Look for other reasons than economic on this one.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>"There's also the minor issue of a tanked US economy"

Excuse me?

Better get here quick...Wall Street is unaware of the problem.
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Glitch


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's also the minor issue of a tanked US economy
Good thing I just got another raise!
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Mikej


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I haven't had a raise in three+ years and no review in 18 months. Things are projected to change in January and the phone list will be having many downward adjustments over the next 90 days.

Overall regionally things are looking up - finally.
Maybe I'll start a small business.
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My company is closing, thats 100+ jobs lost. Intermet in Racine just announced they are closing, thats 603 more jobs lost.
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Mikej


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Wall Street is unaware of the problem."
From 2002:
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Outrider


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wall Street is about corporations, profit and risk management. It has absolutely nothing to do with employment in the USA. Especially, in this sugar coated global economy.

The US held its own, supplied England and Russia, and finally won WWII as a result of its industrial capabilities that no longer exist compliments of our outsourcing to other countries.

Heck, even our precious Harley's and Buell's are gradually becoming more and more dependent on import parts. The label "Made in the USA" should really read "Assembled in the USA" and eventually may read "Idea conceived in the USA."

Think about it.
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BadS1


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hold your horses on Intermet Dyna.They aren't closed yet and may not.A diecast company such as that one is not easily closed.Intermet might not own it any longer but someone else may.There are things brewing that are not in the papers yet.
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Fullpower


Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Your personal economy is of your own making.
No one is going to pay you for your sniveling." said Dean H Ravin 2004
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Brucelee
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"My company is closing, thats 100+ jobs lost. Intermet in Racine just announced they are closing, thats 603 more "

Companies and jobs come and go. Always have, always will. I think most countries would take our economy, our standard of living any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Brucelee
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a global economy, get used to it!
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