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Spiderman


Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can I buy a reasonably priced one at?
A small bench style maybe even a Multipurpose job.
Oh yeah Bigger than hobby size.
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Fullpower


Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have a cheapo ENCO in my shop for turning armatures, been working out on it for 7 years now, no problems. think it cost around a grand US. it is a 9" x 20" bed. couple horsepower, i expected the chinese motor to fail right away, but it is still working fine.ENCO (312)745-1500 ask them for a catalog.
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Gearhead
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spiderman,
Check out this site http://www.grizzly.com

I'm a high school shop teacher and we've purchased quite a few pieces of equipment from these folks but no metal lathes.

We've been pleased with what we have from them and if it can hold up to 150 - 175 kids per day I don't think you're going to hurt it too bad!
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Spiderman


Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gearhead,
Perfect!!!

That is exactly what I was lookin for THANKS!!!
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Shoptask El Dorado... it's great! The only problem I have is capacity sometimes, but that's simply part of the compromise w/ a multipurpose...

www.shoptask.com
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Rocklane


Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you might want to look at this web site too.


Rock

http://www.smithy.com/MWdefault.htm
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did a lot of research and comparison between Smithy and Shoptask. They are prime adversaries in thir market. I think the finish on the Smithy is a bit nicer, but the Shoptask is a bit more functional, with the CNC-ready mounts and heavier-built components. My research is a bit dated, since I have had my machine a few years, and both companies have made a lot of improvements since I was looking.

A few important qualities you need to pay attention to:
-Work Capacity
-Will you be cutting threads?
-It is not hard to spend several hundred to several thousand dollars on tooling to use in the machine after you buy it!
-The tapers (mill spindle and lathe headstock) in the machine should be R8, not a Morse Taper. This dictates tooling availability and price.
-Horizontal (y-axis) Powerfeed- it can be a pain to face a part with a decent finish without a y-feed. X-axis (left to right) is standard on most machines, but Y-axis (forward/backward) isn't.

Don't leave out the possibility of getting a separate lathe and mill. The $$ savings may not be worth the added flexibility.
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Hoser


Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey :

Good suggestions posted so-far , here's a few more things to consider..............................

Be carefull when chosing your machine(s) , I used to have a 3in1 , it was similar to many other machines . Many of these use the same castings , likely made at the same foundry in China . I was happy with the machine , as a small lathe it is accurate , mostly I was happy with it and kinda miss having it around , I did some cool stuff with it. The down side of running a 3in1 type machine is ... low on horsepower , having to change belts constantly to change speeds , lack of rigidity as both a lathe and a mill. A cool little machine in it's own way , I discovered it's limitation's and moved on to a separate lathe and Mill arrangement. For a while I had all three machines running , which was kinda handy.

Here's a pic of that 3in1.........

shop6

Ya thats a cylinder head on a faceplate
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hoser is right- they all pretty much suffer from lack of power (either motor or drivetrain shortcomings) and lack of rigidity. I think Shoptask has gone in the best direction towards solving both of these problems. My machine is a few years old and does not have the head braces like the newest bridgemills, but the horsepower/variable speed problem is being solved with a few DC motors from American Science/Surplus and a speed controller.... <grin>
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Vr1203


Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi, You might consider a vintage South Bend lathe. There are many websites supporting South Bend Lathes.1940's   9" swing , 36" bed
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Blackbelt


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DANG VR that thing is a beast of a bench lathe.. I LIKE IT! how much do they run typically?
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Bomber


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got a DALTON, built in 1914 or there abouts -- you can find bargains on ebay, or machine shops going out of business, or at schools that are closing their shop programs ----

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Dsergison


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what's a little floor space? go large!

this Nardini was $3k used. before that I had a harbor freight type 9x20. NO COMPARISON.

lathe
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Bluzm2


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an old Atlas 10" I'm in the process of rebuilding.
I need to find a 3 jaw chuck, I keep getting outbid on Ebay!
I need more tooling also. Just need to make time to hunt the stuff down.

I would love to find a set of original legs for the bugger. It would make mounting the motor much easier.

Brad
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Vr1203


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blackbelt, I paid $1000 this summer, with more tooling/books/calipers than I have patience to type! It was a high price but so nice ,no wear, etc that I fell in love with it. It came from the Rock Island Ill. Arsenal, But was not sold off to a high school after the war. So it was not abused . Cuts .0005" taper in 8", pretty good for the ole girl!
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