| Author | Message | ||
     Zip |
I',m the Fiddler and the Fiddler Don't Lie ....... Joe,Joe...Joe,Joe... some Father's son Want's to Die He with His Eye on the Gun will soon have the Gun in his Eye. And some Mother's son is going to DIE !!!! YOU DON'T NEED A GUN TO DIE . | ||
| M1combat |
GMAFB... I watched a video the other day where this guy was going on in ebonics about the fact that he OWNED the street corner that he was on. The fact that the police couldn't oust him from said street corner in ten years. The fact that he fed his ho's crack out back. The fact that he was there to stay. He said to the camera man... Watch this, I'll show you what I'm talkin' 'bout... He proceded to go and graba crow bar and beat the living CRAP out of a PT-Cruiser. Granted, I don't have any love for PT's, but the person in the car had no way to defend herself. She was trapped at a light. I drive a 1972 Mustang Mach-1. If someone decided to get too close to it with a crow bar and I thought they had intention to hurt it OR me... They'd get shot and I would happily serve my time. About six months ago I had a guy in a big red dodge truck try to kill me on my Buell THREE times. The first I thought was an honest mistake, the second proved he had intent, the third pissed me off. I've been jumped by three guys that came out from behind a dumpster in a back alley. That night I was lucky that I practiced Jiu-Jitsu for three years. I made it out with a torn shirt. I'm very sure the three of them had to go to the hospital. If one of them had a gun it would have turned out a lot different... I had one. If law abiding citizens don't arm themselves, then only the criminals have guns. Where's your logic now Zippy? | ||
| Zip |
In 51 years and 33 years riding/racing I have never had a problem. Then again I don't go looking for them ether. | ||
| Tripp |
i don't pack heat(never felt it necessary), however, i would like to get a rifle for the house(along with all the safety gear and locks and what not) just in case! you never know when a nice ar15 will come in handy! | ||
| BadS1 |
I got a Goliath. | ||
| Tripp |
hehe i got a sasha(120lb)! she's not quite as big as that monster of yours tho, is he a mastiff? | ||
| BadS1 |
You betcha.Creeping up on 200lbs.And totally family devoted. | ||
| Raraf |
"this guy was going on in ebonics" "If someone decided to get too close to it with a crow bar and I thought they had intention to hurt it OR me... They'd get shot and I would happily serve my time." Gotta feeling that the Ebonic Boy would get the last laugh while you are in jail serving your time while you are serving your time! I ain't afraid on anyone...they'd never catch me! I a runner man! Naw, I believe in self protection, belonged to the NRA but I know that I am too irresponsible to have a gun plus my wife would end up shooting me. | ||
| Fastco |
If I wasn't packing I'd run his money azz flat down - here's the link: http://www.togga.net/holdingitdown.wmv | ||
| M1combat |
That's the one. I'd try to run him down first, but if he was quick I'd get out and pop him in the leg and beat the TAR out of him with his own crow bar (no head shots). Some people just don't understand that there ARE crazy people out there that will just go nuts on a whim. I'm glad that Zip hasn't ever been a victim... That's great, I wish everyone could say that. The facts are that Cali's crime rate is still through the roof and Florida's is not. The reason is that it's difficult to get a carry permit in Cali and easy in Florida. The criminals don't CARE about carry permits... They carry anyway. Armed criminals > unarmed citizens. Criminals know this. Most citizens seem to have their heads up their asses when it comes to this subject. I don't go looking for trouble either Zip, I live in a small town in the northern AZ mountains. Trouble has, however, found me a few times. So far, I've been lucky enough that I haven't needed to use anything but my hands. If I need to though, I will and I'll have the last laugh even in prison because I'll know I did the right thing. Due to that fact though, I most likely wouldn't go to prison... That's one of the nice things about living in AZ, it's a good conservative state. The justice system here seems to understand that there actually IS a right and wrong. Anyway, not trying to make this a political thread  . | ||
| Roc |
Responsible people should carry guns. If you choose not to, and are able to, realize you are safer as a result of the precautions taken by others. | ||
| Sportsman |
ROC, I liike that statement. I used to carry when I worked late at night in downtown Baltimore. To get a permit takes an act of congress so I took my chances. If you know you may end up in a situation, it's just plain stupid not to break the law. ...jail...dead...jail...dead, F them, it's far more likely to get killed for $10 than a cop to search you for no reason. Idiots around here believe the government can protect them. | ||
| Court |
We've been through this a number of times over the years but my views were galvanized as a result of being shot 3 times on 6-18-70 at 11:00pm on a sleepy street (1610 Plass) in Topeka, KS. That will happen precisely once in this lifetime. Court | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Phew am I glad I don't have that problem.  | ||
| Rek |
Thanks for reminding me why I live in MT; A) We all have rifles and shotguns hanging in the back window of our pick-ups B)The only thing we EVER feel obligated to use them on are poor defensless critters (I do truly love to blast those grouse!). Rob | ||
| Chainsaw |
As soon as this country is so safe that the police don't carry firearms, I wont either. | ||
| Kenb |
what's pathetic about that video is the dozen or so people in cars around her that didn't come to her aid, losers. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
M1 - When we go to orange this is what the corner of my office looks like.  I'm really not paranoid, just ready. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
I just watched that video, I think if that had happened to me that would have been the last thing that a**hole would have ever done. And I am peaceful man! | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
f**k this anti gun mess!!! its my constituional right to bare arms and the day i loose that right due to some •••••••• that is aginst it. Is the day i leave the The US, because that is the day that every thing i have fought for has been given up!!! so screw any one that wants to take that from me! sorry if this has offened anyone but its the truth and if u dont like it go somewere that guns are out lawed. | ||
| Contrarian |
"We can't help you; we can only take you to jail." -Chief Wiggam "We're just here to figure out what happened afterward." -Local Cop Too much red tape prevents cops from doing much real police work. Arm yourself. | ||
| Aldaytona |
If I were a criminal I would move to Volutia County Florida where the only thing I would worry about being shot by is a RADAR GUN. | ||
| Budo |
A rifle is a poor choice of weapon for home defense. The bullets tend to go thru walls threating family members and may exit the house threating neighbors. A 12ga loaded with something like #6 or #4 duck loads is very effective at about 12ft and less. You guys talk about going to jail like it is nothing. Perhaps you don't have family or kids. I had rather not have my son grow up looking at me thru two inches of plexaglass. But I do have a carry permit and I like to think I know when to shoot/not shoot. In my state you may not use deadly force to protect your property. | ||
| Spiderman |
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns! Need I remind you of what Hitler did there Zippy? | ||
| Ingemar |
What has Hitler got to do with outlawing guns? That has got nothing to do with what happened in Germany. Just trying to understand what you're saying. Am I missing your point? | ||
| Mikej |
"Am I missing your point?" Just a little. Call it incremental control over a populace. First you have to disarm them so they can not retaliate as easily. Then you separate them into smaller groups or into smaller areas to make them easier to control. Then you begin to tighten the controls until they have no option but to comply. What happened with Jewish people and Hitler in the WWII timeframe was only partly about governmental/military control of firearm ownership. There was also a division with their community that further separated them into smaller groups or factions. Regardless, an unarmed populace is less of a concern to a variety of factions, be they governmental or criminal, or both. I trust my government as much as it trusts me, or something like that. Who's "Zippy"? | ||
| Jssport |
12ga 00buck reduced recoil police loads (I believe Remengton has sells these retail to general public) This allows faster re-aquisition of target and does not over penetrate structures. One shot is like firing 9 32cal bullets. God,.. I prey I never have to use it,.. but I am NOT A VICTIM !!! | ||
| Spiderman |
Ing, Yes it is, unarm the public and they are easier to control or overthrow depending on how you run your dictatorship. Basicly what Mike J said. Zippy = Zip the loud mouth who started this thread. | ||
| Mikej |
Got it, thanks Spidey. One thing to keep in mind is the effect of large loads on the operator. If you've never been inside a room when a firearm went off then you may be in for quite the surprise when the noise and flash go off. As far as how to respond to personal situations then let the Prudent and Reasonable Man test guide you, that and local laws, and some other stuff, genderly adjusted as the case may be, or words to that effect, normal disclaimers apply, abnormal disclaimers may also be induced as the needs arise, not that I would know of such things, besides I was someplace else at the time, or so the story goes, ramblin ramblin ramblin rawhide. | ||
| Spiderman |
One thing to keep in mind is the effect of large loads on the operator. If you've never been inside a room when a firearm went off then you may be in for quite the surprise when the noise and flash go off. Reminds me the first time we took my buddy (who never held a fire arm) shooting. We brought a SKS with a 30 round mag. He squeezes off about 15 and with one smooth motion, that only him and Barishnakov could pull off, he starts to turn with the barrel pointed skyward simotaniously saying, "Is this thing empty?" As all of us, in yet another Russin Balletesq move, Hit the deck and start to scream "POIT DOWN RANGE!!" Ahhhhh Memories!!! |
