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Sandblast
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was just quoted 14.99 a piece for tires I did not buy at Cycle Gear , sounds pretty good to me. Is that normal, because if it is I have been getting raped.
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Buells Rule!
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that on the bike or just bringing in rims? Does it include balancing? If so thats a damn good price.

Cheapest I have found is a small indy shop 3 blocks from me that charges $20 a tire including balancing.
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Sandblast
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is rims off the bike, and including balancing. I asked her to repeat it and she did... Hope she is not making a mistake.
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Tom_b
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good price!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Harley dealer in Columbus, Georgia will change tires for $20 and change. The only thing I ever go there for besides filters and brake pads.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dyna is that Redline that does your tires for you?

Mike
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Biknut
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bates # 2 in dallas (only store now} charges $20. includes balancing and you bring in the wheel.
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1313
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best I have found is $22 per tire - take wheel off bike and take it to the shop - old tire removed, new tire (whether bought there or not!) mounted, balanced, out the door with government getting their cut and the old tires disposed of. The only problem (minor) is that they are not open on Mondays which I guess is typical in this area.

1313
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Lovematt
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am lucky...the place I go if you buy the tire there they will mount the tire for free if you bring in the wheel.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I mount my own tires; the local Japanese dealer (Suz, Kaw, Yam, Hon) spin balances them for ten bucks each wheel. It's the best price I've found around here. Fifteen bucks a wheel for M&B sounds like a damned good deal.
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Buells Rule!
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, yep redline.

They will also meet any price I find for tires online.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Redline would not meet my price for tires that I got online. I got a pair of BT-020s from SWM for $195.00 shipped. Redline said that is below their cost.

Here are their current prices:
http://motorcyclepitstop.com/mivastore/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=004&Ca tegory_Code=BT020
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Buells Rule!
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe they just do it for me because I am a frequent customer? I buy a lot of parts through those guys.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sandblast, Cycle Gear in Bakersfield gets $11.99 for mount and balance (wheels off the bike) for tires purchased from them, plus $1 a tire disposal fee. no appointment needed, altho if one were to go in on a busy Saturday morning you'd certainly have to wait a bit.

SOMETIMES they've charged me a $6.00 "Special Order" charge for a set of tires they didn't stock, altho i have put up a fight on this one on accasion and had this charge "disappear."

they have several times mounted and balanced tires for me that i purchased ELSEWHERE for the $11.99 price, and on occasion they've not charged me ANYTHING for M&B, but these are more a function of who you know rather than what you know.

there are Cycle Gear locations throughout the state, listed at www.cyclegear.com.

they USED to have a great policy on tire prices, which was they'd match any current advertised price, including mail order providing the mail order outlet had a "walk in" store somewhere (a la Chaparral in San Bernardino) and they would match the "walk in" price, which in Chaparral's case was typically only a few dollars more per tire than pure mail order.

they've recently changed their policy twice, to only matching a LOCAL merchant's price (in my case, "local" being Bakersfield), and then when i was in a couple of weeks ago their policy now states local merchant AND the item in question must be IN STOCK at the local merchant, which certainly rules out tires for a V-Strom.

if you DO shop your local Cycle Gear, be aware that their "asking" prices are typically sky high (at least on tires), unless it's a sale or close-out item.

as you know my sweetie bought me a very nice static balancer and bead breaker from Aerostich for my birthday so it's all moot now anyway - the days of having to burn three or four hours of driving and waiting time while someone invariably scratches and gouges your highly-polished wheels, hope they know how to use the spin balancer, and then discover that the store policy has changed once again and you're gonna have to spend $100 more for your new rubber (they finally caved on my last visit and matched Brento's Cycle in Bakersfield, even tho they didn't stock the new Metzeler Tourance's i bought) are now history.

i've always believed in spending my money locally if possible - and still do - but mail order tires are now SOP here at the 'Dome.

ride to lean,
Ferris
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$88 tire changer at Harbor Freight.

$120 static wheel balancer Southwest Moto.
Will pay for themselves in just a few tire changes...

I'll never pay again!!!! Bwaaaaaaaaa!
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Biknut
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$120 for a wheel balancer? you got took. i'll sell my custom wheel balancer for a lot less than that. shown here is my SUX 4000 deluxe motorcycle wheel balancer, balancing a road king wheel. any offers?wheel balancer
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i thought i was the only one doing static, on axle, balancing. ha ha! good deal. i don't like mounting em, though.
ride safe,
tim
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oke, I've asked before.

WTF is static (on axle) balancing??? How do you do it?

Does it mean I can dump them ugly weights on my nice shiny rims?

Thanx!
Ingemar.
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Biknut
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

with the SUX 4000 all you have to do is stick the axel through the wheel with all the spacers, and you will need a piece of pvc pipe about 2" long, to take up the rest of the space(pvc pipe sold separately). tighten the axel down hand tight.
if you have the type of wheel where you repack the wheel bearings then don't install the seals until after wheel balancing is complete. next place the wheel assembly on your SUX 4000 wheel balancer and give it a spin. when it stops
the heaviest part will be at the bottom. use tape to hold a wheel weight to the opposite side of the wheel. spin it again. you may have to adjust the amount of the wheel weight. when the wheel weight is just right the wheel will not have a heavy spot. now you can attach the wheel weight. with a little practice this method works very well.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ingemar,
The method Phipip (Biknut) describes above. Simple gravity trial and error method. : )
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Uwgriz
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, I assume that's only if you buy the tires from them?
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Mbsween
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I started changing my own when the dealer slapped a 15.00 charge on top of the mount/ balance. I think it now comes to 25 - 30.00 /tire off the bike.

I used this as a nice excuse to get a 6hp compress and balance rig from Rod Neff.

Now all my friends order tires from MAW or Discount tires and come over here to change them.

The beer cost is killing me.
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Teenc
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don & Roy's in Brookfield WI has free mounting and balancing if you bring your wheels in. You have to buy the tires from them. Normally I would never recommend them for anything, but they can't possibly screw up mounting a tire. Or can they?

http://www.donandroys.com/specials.asp?sid=07269861X10K25K2004J11I46I11JAMQ29R0
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Phil & Blake,

Then I wouldn't need a SUX 4000 or whatever other device. With a simple innovation I can make something myself. Or does that SUX4000 offer something I don't know about?

I knew about this method and have even used it in the past for my 50cc 2-strokers. They weren't the fastest in the world (50 mph was FAST!), and those bearings I cleaned thouroughly before balancing. Grease and dirt simply gives it too much resistance (as a matter of fact, nobody balanced the wheels of 50cc'ers because the legal speed was 30mph. After my dad learned me to tune those puppies he also learned me how to balance the wheels like that). I forgot about it after I got rid of those 2-strokers and never even thought about it after getting a motorcycle. I would have never thought the method is good enough for the speeds a motorcycle reaches.

In fact, I felt the bearings in the wheel of my friends' sportster and another friends' bearings from an xb (the orange ones), and they are quite hard to turn by hand. I'm sure this would be too much resistance for a few ounces to make the wheel turn down. Or is the axel stuck in another set of bearings in the SUX 4000?

Thanks!
Ingemar.

(Message edited by ingemar on October 25, 2004)
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Teenc
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Biknut
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

actually without wheel seals it turns very freely. the night before last when i balanced my wheel, the wheel would turn back and forth about three times on it's own before settling down to the heaviest place.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ingemar,
You are correct in your observation, a special balancing stand with its own ultra low friction bearings is best. In a pinch, even with the axle method you can use a piece of wood or the handle of a screwdriver to tap-tap-tap on the SUX4000 style wheel balance stand to overcome the effects of stiction in the wheel bearings. It does work.
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Teenc
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What tools are needed to remove the rear tire? I would like to change my own tires, but I am not sure of the steps involved.
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Biknut
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

one tool that helps a lot is one of these. this is jc whitneys deluxe motorcycle bead breaker.
i don't remember the cost but i think it was about $69bead breaker
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Buells Rule! \-2{(Dyna in disguise)}
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I assume that's only if you buy the tires from them?

Nope.
I brought in the rims & my Diablos & they mounted em up for $20 each.
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