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Buells Rule! \-2{(Dyna in disguise)}
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another name change??? This is longer than the previous one.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cycle Gear here in the Valley of the Sun charges the $14.99 for the mounting of the tires, but for tires not bought through them they charge an additional $14.99 for balancing. And you take your old tire with you. If you buy the tire from them the balance is included. One thing I have noted about some of the import shops, a piece of masking tape on the pulley with an arror indicating direction of rotation is needed to keep them from mounting the tires backwards. The same with the rotor on the front wheel.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I usually get charges about $20.00 Canadian for both tires and thats balanced.
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ingmar,

The Balancing stand was well worth the money, no matter what any one else says... The specialty stand Blake refers to uses ABEC 5 or 7 bearings that allow you to balance much closer to true balance that on the wheel bearings alone. I got a Metzler brand stand so no, it's not junk and a bargain at $120.

The $88 changing stand includes the bead breaking device pictured above and a clamp up top to hold the tire while de-mounting. Changing the tires is really a snap with the exception of re-mounting the front. That's the hardest part...
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Biknut
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the SUX 4000 wheel balancer ($0) has been extensively tested. for years i always sheleped over to my good friend duncan's auto shop to balance my wheels. he's got a snap on digital spin balancer with motorcycle wheel adapter ($3000). when it flashes ooo it's all good. no static balancer is as good, but as long as you can balance the wheel without wheel seals you can use a SUX type balancer and come real close.
the good kind of balancer you're talking about works better than a SUX when you got permanent sealed bearings like on the new bikes.
if you're racing and spend a lot of time around 150 mph i want a snap on balancer anyway.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have used two 3 foot pieces of 2X4 to samwich the tire, then run my pickup on the 2X4 to break the bead. The only reason I did this is because I didn't have a $40,000, backhoe with the hydraulic stabilizer arms to break the bead. With the 2X4 method it is best to use two people because its hard to see over the fender to tell what you are doing. Balance-Schmalance it all feels the same up to 110MPH on a Harley!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THis would probably be a good time to dredge up this old thread:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/20411.html?1049953989

I built one of these as my first welder project, it turned out beautifully, I use it all the time, along with the Harbor Freight tire changing stand.

And this site is very helpful to get started.

How to Change a Motorcycle tire

I'm getting pretty good at changing them these days. I can do it by myself, but an assistant makes the job so much easier. The wood block tip they show in the site above is well to be heeded, though if you have an assistant, holding a kink/crease in the tire directly opposite of the final place you are trying to get the tire to slip over the rim works as well.

Al
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Davefl
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some pics of my balancer here, complete with views of my dirty workbench.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/25227.html
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Davefl
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al, do you use the Harbor Freight stand just to hold the wheel or do you use the complete kit? I have been afraid to use the kit so I use spoons with the stand.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the bead breaker part of it, and I use it to hold the wheel while using irons. But I don't use the top part of it at all, nor do I use the big bar for anything other than leverage on the bead breaker.

Al
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Davefl
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I quess we are doing about the same then. I think that big bar would scratch my wheels.
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also have a Neff Balancer. The bead breaker I use, I got from Aerostitch ( www.riderwearhouse.com ):
Simple and Compact Bead Breaker
Mike.
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Gowindward
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A cheap bead breaker is a large Jorgenson type screw wood clamp. $25 for the name brand and about $10 for an import. Clamp is all wood except screws so easy on the wheel. The Metzeler static balance stand is a bargain for $120.00 I would cost me that much in time and gas just driving around to buy the components to build one like it.

The rear wheel pulley on the XB12 fits perfect in a 5 gallon paint bucket as a wheel holding stand. It's pretty handy to have an eleven year old boy as an extra hands while working the tire irons.

Locate H-D shop charges $32.00 for mount and balance with the wheel off and tires from and outside source. And they don't carry the "Made in France" brand.
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