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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I posted about this last weekend. I just did a good going over of my 2000 M2. I found grease coming from the front axel bearing area. Why is this happening? I have never seen this sort of thing. This is my first street bike and never encountered this on my dirtbikes. My ride has close to 13,000 miles on it.Also, as I said last week the grease leaked all over my front rotor.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you sure its from the axle? Sounds more like a leaky fork seal (which is annoying but not particularly unusual on any bike).
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Mfell2112
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am sure it is grease. The fork legs are dry.You can see the grease coming out around the axle. Thanks for the help.

Regards

Mike
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe the previous owner packed it with grease in some misguided approach to lubing bearings.... sounds unlikely though.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or mabe you lost one of the bearings pressed on seals--shielded bearing-- lost shield,and bearing is now shedding its load of grease.Not a good thing.Bearing supply houses have better and CHEAPER bearings than the dealer.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is no previous owner I purchased this bike new. Is there a grease seal on these rims? I guess I should call the dealer or Buell and get this thing into the shop. I can't ride the bike when grease is getting all over my rotor. Thanks again for the help.

Regards

mike
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Dale
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A lot of dealers grease the axles to keep them from corroding tight to the bearings. Maybe to much grease.
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Shred
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get your front wheel off the ground and try to do a wiggle test side to side with the wheel. if there is play its the wheel bearings!!! Had that happen to mine in the front a good friend had the same thing in the rear!!!!
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Daves
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When's the last time you replaced the wheel bearings?

Dave
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Mfell2112
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Dave,

I don't have over 13,000 easy miles on this bike.

Regards

Mike
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your bike is four years old. Mileage isn't the only factor you need to consider.Seals tend to dry out and become brittle quicker when they're used less. Fortunately, changing wheel bearings is a pretty easy job.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help guys. I would love to pull the front tire off, the problem I am having here is I have no garage. It makes trouble shooting a pain in the rear.

Regards

mike
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fell -- replace the bearings, the seals are shot

don't ask me how I know
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Mfell2112
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Bomber. I have the extended warranty. I have a fractured tail section and thanks to the grease nailing my rotor my brake pads are history as well. How the heck can my seals be shot already? Fer cryin out loud this bike is barely ridden and it is not like I ride it hard because I do not.You know what really stinks? Everytime I bring my ride in for warranty repair it costs me $50.00. This bike is putting me into the poor house $50.00 at a time.:-)Looks like the Buell is going for its yearly fall visit to the repair shop. This thing is in the shop no less then twice a year every single year and I have less then 13,000 miles on it. Whats gonna happen when i hit 50k on this thing? By then everything will be new on it.:-)

Regards
A pissed off Buell enthusiast.
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MFell -- it's ain't the milage, or the usage, that kills seals (well, they CAN, but, clearly, no in this case) -- blame it on the noxious crap we call atmosphere in this area -- the air pollution attacks the seals, which is likely the cause of yours failure --

also, using the wrong cleaning agents can do it, as well as exposure to a buncha different chemicals --

you havbe just described the situation that drives most motorcyclists into becoming, to varying degrees, their own service departments

and, believe me, stuff like this is most definately NOT confined to Buells
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only $100 a year? If I could only be so LUCKY. Pay for parts out of pocket and you might have reason to be pissed!
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Mfell2112
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rick, The extended warranty cost me $900.00. So much for being lucky.:-)Bomber, My Dad has over 70,000 miles on his Ultra classic and he is running the original wheel bearings. He lives 25 minutes from me.

Regards
Mike
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I grease up the bearings on my Dyna every tire change & have had no issues at all. They dont leak, or spit, or anything. Course I only have over 61,000 hard miles on it, so im expecting trouble any day now: D
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Budo
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have not seen anyone ask this yet, have you ever used a pressure washer or quarter car washer type wand washer on your bike? The pressuer can wash the grease out of the wheel bearings if used too close to the bearings. A common problem.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, Mike, you're right, the gods have it in for you ;-} (humor)

to me, 900 for extended warranty (divided by 5 plus another 100 per year is about 280 per year -- add to that oil changes and tires and such, that doesn't sound too bad (ymmv, of course)

this stuff happens, sir -- I see you live not too far from me -- perhaps you'd like to bring your scoot dowen to the entropy lab, and we can do the work together over the winter --
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,
Take Bomber up on that offer, but don't ask to drive the car under the tarp. ; )

Dyna,
How do you re-grease sealed bearings?
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are wheel bearings covered by the ESP?
To me, they would be considered a wear and tear item.

Mikej,
On the HDs they are not a sealed bearing.
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Ftd
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe HD's are sealed on 2000 and newer models.

Frank
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, all mine are older than that.

Dave
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are wheel bearings covered by the ESP?


When the front wheel bearings died on my S3-T in Florida, they were replaced on the extended warranty.That was at 50,000 miles. (Unlimited mileage is a nice feature.)
I never had a bearing problem with any of my Harleys. I pulled the bearings and cleaned and greased them every time I changed a tire. If one looked suspect, I replaced it. Both the bearings and seals are pretty cheap.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the offer Bomber eventually i will take you up on it. I am having Hal's HD do the work and they are getting me a new tail section as well. Oh and Bomber, I have an 83 YZ 250 in pieces right now. I am getting close to having all the parts needed to put it together. How about I bring that over?:-) Dave, I talked to the HD warranty people today and they did not have a problem replacing the bearing seals. What I did find out today is that paint is not covered by the warranty. We all know how well the paint holds up on the older Buells. Especially on gas tanks and in my case the tail section. It looks like the paint is starting to crack on it.

Regards

Mike
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mfell -- I make it a habit not to assemble somethting I didn't take apart (smile)
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Daves
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad they are going to cover the bearings for you.

Dave
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Mfell2112
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Bomber, I didn't take the YZ apart either.:-) It seems to be a simple bike although I really wanted the air cooled version of this bike. I mean how difficult can a 238 lb motorcycle be?:-)Bude, I never used a pressure washer anywhere near my bike in fact I would not even spray anywhere near my wheels with a low pressure water hose. I wipe my rims down by hand once every other year or so. Thanks Dave. I bought the extended warranty just in case the motor went south. It seems the only thing that I really haven't had any problems with is the motor. Well other then one leaky rocker box. The paint shaker runs great.:-)

Regards

Mike
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