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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Over 60,000 miles on the HD & maybe 2500 of them have been with a helmet.

6100 on the R1 & about 4500 or so have been with a helmet.

On a sportbike I dont have any issue wearing them because I know I am increasing my risks of going down simply do being more agressive with the bike. On the HD I tend to just putt around & take it ez. Also when the wife & I travel we almost never take the interstates. I can go from Madison to Chicago purely with nice backroads that dont expose us to all the lunatics on the highways.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably 250,000 miles on two wheels.
220,000 miles of it without a helmet.
2 crashes(one on a public road, one on the track), both on Buells, had full gear on both times. Guess I'm just lucky.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have had 3 crashes in the last 20+ years.

2 of them were with no helmet & the worst I got was some road rash, never even came close to smacking my head. As I slid down the road I kept telling myself...head & fingers up.

The other one was with the wife 2 years ago coming back from the crud run & we had all the gear on...both of us smacked our helmets pretty good on the ground.

Kinda weird how my worst crash involved me wearing the most gear & on the least squidly bike.
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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To make your decision to wear a helmet or not based on the type of bike you are riding is retarded. You (and/or passenger) can get a serious head injury (or die) at 5 mph if your head encounters a stationary object (pavement, curb, telephone pole, truck...).

I'm with SouthernMarine regarding the "reasons not to wear a helmet." Hearing loss due to wind noise will occur with or without a helmet. Only hearing protection can prevent it. Fatigue, peripheral vision problems are also weak arguments against helmet laws. Research proves that helmets (real ones) make a difference. Just look at your state's motorcycle fatality statistics sometime. Fewer helmet-protected riders die than non-helmet-protected ones.

Wear a helmet or don't, who cares? Compared to helmet laws, wouldn't more lives be saved if we (law enforcement and each one of us) could keep drunks off the roads regardless of vehicle driven/ridden?
Mike.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just look at your state's motorcycle fatality statistics sometime. Fewer helmet-protected riders die than non-helmet-protected ones.

Well thats not exactly eye opening is it?
As Bill pointed out a person can also slip on the stairs & hit their head & die as his mother did...maybe a helmet should be required for stair use??

And why is "retarded" to base helmet use on the bike type? Obviously I will take bigger risks, higher speeds, etc on the R1 then I will on the HD. Nascar drivers do it all the time, hmm helmets in their race cars but not in their street cars...why is that?? Maybe because the risks they face on the track in those cars are greater than out on the street where speeds are far less.
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Grndskpr
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First off, since i seem to be the only person hear who lives in chicago

What the mayor wants he gets. period, it will pass, and it will stick for a time like it or not

Secondly as of a day or so ago, illinois had 129 motorcycle deaths, last year it totaled out at 145, looks were about right

thirdly, its been slow in the news, crime in the cit is down, deaths are down have to look for something to report about

C- Burke is a republican alderman from Lincon Park, no need to say more, if you know the city you understand

5- if you thought you saw riders running around wiht there helmet straped to there bike before wait till next year(in and around chicago)

6-I dont really care, i wear my head gear, dont think twice about it

d- Its income for the city, weither you want to belive it or not, thats what it will be there for, plus its a great excusse to pull people over and find out they dont have an m class(somehting like %40 in illinois)

e- all of the deaths you have heard about in the past few weeks have all involved high speed, thats why its such a problem here, long flat straight roads to go nice and fast on, try the commute daily and you too can see what the bikes do, or better yet take I-55 Fri or Sat and see how mant squids you will se pulling 3 figures, or on one wheel


While i am not in favor of a helmet law, the bikers of this area have done it to themselves, i have seen one wheel and over 100, i have seen people slow traffic on the expressway so they can stunt, i have been passed in traffic by a lane splitting squid pulling 85 while the rest of traffic was between 20-40, guess what, this atracts poilce, and only makes it woorse for everyone else, hence one of the reasons i went to crusiers after a lifetime of sportbikes

8000 miles on the HD 7975 with a helmet, the other miles were moving it or pushing it
R
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Gschuette
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I think everyone can choose for themselves on whether or not to protect our brain but hose with a brain choose to wear a helmet. That is probably what it feels like to crash w/o a helmet.
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Jmartz
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The government should outlaw motorcycles, bicycles, roller blades, convertible cars and smoking. That should put to rest the "social burden" issue that seems to drive these insane assaults on our freedoms. When I moved to Ga. I quit riding fir 10 years because of the state's helmet law. In order to have a reason to wear one, I went from a poser chopper owner to a dare devil sportbikes.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am against helmet laws. I believe in Darwin.
Without 18 year old squids with no helmets, where do I get the spare organs I need?
Here in New York, the Imperial state, we have scads of skin graft needing, helmet wearing idiots. Anti evolutionary.
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I concur with Darwin on all levels. Survival of the fittest and let the rest reside on lower levels of the food chain. Hey, that is the way it is, like it or not.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm local too. I'm for it, but doubt we will ever see it. For the same reasons that we now must wear seat belts in cars. Average people don't ever expect anything bad to happen to them, yet it happens all the time. Some people don't belong anywhere near a motorcycle, much less riding one at night thru a dense urban area without a helmet. I know most Buell riders have enough sense to take basic precautions, first and formost, protect your brain. There are a lot of arrogant young riders in this area, that truly think they can cheat death, 114 of them didn't this summer. The ones that crash and live are the ones that you and I and every other taxpayer will have to support for many years to come. I would rather give them a helmet that have to pay for extended medical care. Maybe a lid should be included with the purchase of a bike. Some riders spend so much on the bike and plastic glue on parts that they don't budget anything on protection. These are the ones that this law is for.
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Ethanr
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 03:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>There are a lot of arrogant young riders in this area, that truly think they can cheat death

Hmm...don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Phoenix a large number of the lidless riders I see are 40+ years old on Harleys/clones, and the way they ride makes you sure they don't really know how to handle their bikes. What's comical are the younger guys wearing helmets...with flip-flops and shorts.
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the money spent on supporting vegetabled riders after crashing lidless is an urban myth, according to sources such as Cycle and MCN --

this area, too (Chicagoish), shows most of the lidless are the uniformed HD riders doing their Sonny Barger routines (which, given the amount of wobbling and two block foot dragging IS kinda humorous)

I'm agin the law, in priciple, but I wear my helmet 99.9% of the time, so it won't have much affect on me personnal, just hate to see yet another example of gubmit protecting me

to put this into perspective, this municipality is one that declared a 22 caliber rifle with a tube magazine holding more than 5 rounds an assault rifle --
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