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Biknut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can anyone tell me what differnce i would notice if i changed from andrews v4 cams to v8s and made no other changes? anybody out there done this?
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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they are very close in profile. you will not be able to tell the difference. if the v4 isnt enough cam, then try the v9. i am runing the n6 and find them to be a very mild hi torque cam, run pretty smooth down to 2000 rpm, start pulling strong around 3500 and still pulling at 6500 limiter.
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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

question though: the V series is for 4 speeds. the 5 speed cases use the N cams. i would consider selling my set of N6 cams, i would love to run some N9's.
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To quote Aaron, who quotes Ron: "look for what is holding you back." Just swapping parts without a clear picture and a plan may just end up costing you $$ with no gain.

Henrik
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Easy_rider
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speaking of cams -- In the olden shovelhead days they ran what looked like a roller cam/solid lifter in the 80 ci motors. I think that played into my feeling that the evo motors never sounded quite as good with the hydraulic lifters. Any chance of putting a roller into a Buell or are we too limited a market for that to ever happen?
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think we do use hydraulic roller lifters...

From what I hear (I guess I never checked my manual though) just about everything that can be a roller/ball/needle bearing is.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think easy is referring to roller style rockers. And yes you can get them. Unless he is referring to roller style lifters, if so I think you can get those as well.
http://www.heavydutycycles.com/rocker1a.htm

http://www.cranecams.com/?show=imageDownload&dir=Motorcycle%2F



http://www.cas4.com/engine/engine-lifter-tappet-roller2.html

http://www.andrews-products.com/motorcycle/cams/evolution_sportster_cam_gear_noi.htm

There's more out there, way more, any decent performance shop can set you up right.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All the EVOs have roller lifters,but you can always get some upgraded ones--like Jims Hydro-solids.They act like solids after a certain RPM supposed to give better HP at top end.Have them in a couple of engines.
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Bluelightning
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As a matter of fact, I use Fueling Twin Cam hydraulic roller lifters in my X-1. The JIMS hydrosolids are supposed to be really good, but with that comes price. The Fueling stuff is also really good, but is a lot cheaper price. Just FYI.
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Easy_rider
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was referring to the lifters.
I thought part of that lovable rattle in my rocker covers was from cam hitting the lifter. 'Parently not if all evo's already have roller's. I wondered why the HD took a step "backward" when I was told they had regular lifters in them. Maybe it's the definition of regular.
Blue, Were the Fueling's any quieter? I know that's not normally the goal for an aftermarket cam but I'd really prefer to have a quieter valvetrain. I may end up with just a louder exhaust to get me through!
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