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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I have been looking at the XB9SX that has been sittin in front of my desk for the last week.
It finally has grown on me, it rides great and heck why not have a second bike that runs LOL.
SO talk to the owner get a slammin price.

Now for the smart thing lets look at insurance.

First quote from dairy land = 6500.00 (not a typo over 6 large)

Call a few other companies just got another quote from Dairy Land = 8,000.00

WTF???

The bike isn't even that much totaled out!

Any insurance pro's in the house that can get me a quote?
Or at least explain this organized gang rape of a midwest motorcyclist?
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's classified as a "SportBike".
If it falls over and the owner wants it fixed a dented frame replacement may declare it "totalled".
Call StateFarm and get a quote for your car/truck along with your wanted bike, they will not insure a bike alone.
Call Progressive also, but I'm afraid if DairyLand gave you two conflicting quotes then you may be in a ZipCodeRedZone.
For grins give them a different zip code at least two counties west of the shop's location.

I believe XB insurance prices was one of the motivating factors in Bubba's relocation decision.

For real grins get a quote for yourself from the same agents only for a 2005 1200 Sportster Roadster.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use American Modern Home. 900.00 a year here in Ga. Sorry I don't have a number. I have a '03 XB9S. Those prices are highway robbery!
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those prices are more like prison sex from the receiving end.
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99buellx1
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidy, havent checked on insurance, might have to do that. But I know what you mean, our SX sits right in front of me, and yesterday I sat on it again. I just love the way it sits! Now I'm wanting it too.

Craig
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Crw
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WTF?!
Now I don't feel so bad about the premium for my tuber increasing 50% this year. It went from $305/year to $454/year. When I asked why it went up I was told it had been reclassified as a sportbike. BTW, Virginia, multiple bike discount, Progressive.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,
My M2 is classified as a Sportbike and im zip now I only pay 800 a year for low deductable an 12 months on.

Does anyone know how to get the report or reasons why it is so high?

The Ins. co.isn't to knowlegeble why and/or willing to share.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sometimes they go by credit reports somehow figuring that a low credit rating relates to accident proneness. Check your credit report and see if anything is negative on there, your shop should be able to run one on you if you are open to having them do so. Call it a pre-credit pre-application request.

I'm thinking that the XB frames are part of the issue. Nothing really wrong with the frames, but as a cosmetic component of the bike in addition to being a structural part it has to be a factor in insurance claims.

And note, I'm not trying to 'dis the XB frame format, just trying to understand why XB insurance rates are out of line with other bikes. Maybe check for rates for yourself on something like an R1 for a comparison.
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey...Looks like you are headed for paying cash for a bike and getting a Liability Only policy. Not the best, but an alternative that will get you back in the saddle.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$700 a year from a company in Florida called "Fernet" insurance Do a google search. 26, "fairly" clean record. 12R.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got me wondering so I called HD ins Adviser.
2004 XB12R
542.00 per year, 500 deductible
25/50/10
full all year coverage.

One company they quoted wanted 998.00


Dave
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Budo
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try a insurance broker, they shop around for the best price for you. www.fernet.com
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Rek
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$660/yr for '00 S3T, State Farm, rural MT
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well got somewhat of an explination from H-D

Apparently the XB9SX is sooo newwww
that is is on double secret high performace status.

But the good news is I could get a V-rod, apparently it a low performace vehical with 105 RWHP for about $400 a year WTF.

Dave,
Did you use you as the rider of the bike?
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$396/yr for my 99 S3T
$350/yr for my 98 S1WL
$456/yr for a 05 FJR1300

$80/mo for the 91RS1200, 98S1WL, 00Blast and those are the only vehicles on the policy.

StateFarm. No claims, no tickets.

(Message edited by josh_ on September 03, 2004)
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Daves
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, me as the rider. They've never seen me ride!

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

State farm.

$280 a year full coverage with no winter storage deal & a $500 ded...thats for the R1, the HD is actually $10 a year more.

Had American family & they were trying to rape me a month after I got the bike.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They must know that you don't hang off!
That is a really cheap rate for a R1!

Dave
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Daves
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way Spidey, that quote was from Dairyland.

Dave
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Shanetbolt
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 99 S3 and pay 275 a year full coverage with 1000 deductible. Insurance co is Country formally known as MSI out of Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Only policy with them is my bike.
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Jeremyh
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i use dairyland on my 03 9r and it is just over 500 bucks. be sure to tell them it is stored in a garage and all that bs or they will all rape you for sure.
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Sshbsn
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My insurance companies say it's not rape. It's consensual because I signed papers.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way Spidey, that quote was from Dairyland.

Well was it a XB9SX? NO

Are you 20 years older than me? YES

Do you live 10 miles from Detroit? NO

Let me know what your quote on a XB9SX is than we can have a fair comparison.}
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

be sure to tell them it is stored in a garage and all that bs or they will all rape you for sure.

Come on I'm not a green horn.

I have cheap insurance on my M2 it just seems to be this bike that is causing the problem.
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Doughnut
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is my 96 S2 classified as? I only pay $450 a year for nice full.
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spiderman, Try trying to get a quote for Clinton TWP. It is in Macomb County. When my insurance company found out I lived in Clinton County not Clinton Township(Macomb County) My insurance premium went UP $250!!! I live in B.F.E. Michigan where the doors don't ever get locked and the keys are left in the vehicle.

But insurance companies being as they are it probably doesn't matter where you live anymore, not with no-fault and the Michigan Catastrastrific Claims Association Fund
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just an FYI Progressive doesn't list any of the XB models except the XB9 Firebolt on their site. You have to list the City Cross as a streetsport under 1000cc's to get an accurate quote.
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Shky_jake
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For all the military people reti. active, reserves, guard you can use USAA. I insure a 01 SUV, 99 Ram, 01 M2, and a 100,000.00 renters pol for only 217.00 a month and I live in Las Vegas, NV. Give it a try.
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SouthernMarine
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use USAA and get a good deal overall. I have van, bike, renters policy and pay less than 200 a month. That should drop when we go back to NC in Dec (cross my fingers).
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Vegasbueller
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some things that make a HUGE difference are being under 30, and being single! And I do agree with the Zip Code thing. I lived in one side of Vegas that was considered "high crime" by the ins. company. I used a zip code from the "rich and famous" side of town and got an almost $500.00 drop in rates.
I use Geico now on my XB9R and it costs me about $600 a year. Thats being 35, no wrecks, married and had the MSF class. (the MSF class gets ya 15% off)
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My '99 S3 with State Farm just dropped to $291, full coverage. I had asked about what I could do to get the rates down and other than dropping to basic it wasn't worth it.
I have base rate on my '97 CBR1100XX for $150.

The answer is - move to Iowa, "Is this heaven, no, it's Iowa"
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Grndskpr
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spiderman, you are in the same boat as myself, living IN Chicago, my insurance was 890 for a 98 S3T, and when i picked up the 900 monster some companies wanted 3000g's a year for a bike i paid $4500, the main problem as explained by my brooker is the high amount of stolen bikes in large cities, they really dont care if its in a garage or not, your best bet is to look for an indipendant insurance guy who sells for several different groups
My 2000 FXDX which cost a lot more than the Ducati/ S3 was half as much for insurance go figure
R
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its all about the Actuaries and their Statistics.

Knowing how to use them to your advantage is the trick!!!

Its not about breaking the rules, just bending them a little!!!!
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Iamike
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's because no one in their right mind would ever ride a FXDX!

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Crip2nite
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$749 this year, goes down a couple of bucks every year I stay with them. (Full coverage,12 months in NY)
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,

You never rode the FXDX.

That was one sweet ride!!!!!
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Iamike
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill,
I added the laughing smiley just to let Roger know I was joking. I don't really ever criticize anybody's ride. We all have different tastes, otherwise we'd all still be riding Honda 250's.
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Grndskpr
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's because no one in their right mind would ever ride a FXDX!


You spent like 4 days with me, do you really feel i am in my right mind, please
R
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