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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know, R1 has been right on the things coming out. Hmmmm. Gotta give him credit for that. So, let's say we do get a Rod buell. Who wants one? (I know I do....)
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You missed out on a great feed of Salt Cod, Hard Bread and Scrunchions (Fat Port bits) that my lovely mother-in-law cooked for myself and "da boys" the last night before they left to catch the boat to get off the island.


And it was outstanding, very good food, some tradition, even some history, very cool, and please pass along my thanks again
Bill you missed out
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not all "mules" end up in the crusher, some get redirected on the way to the bins and crusher. I know a guy who knows a guy .....

Some end up and AMI, and MMI, so the student can learn how to work on the next gen. motors
Look it up
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill you missed out

No kidding. Wish I had a dollar for every trip I didn't take but could have. Probably could afford to have somebody build my fantasy bike for me.

Then again, the ones I did go on will be with me forever as some of the best times in my life. That is why I love reading the stories and seeing the pics of everyone's travels.

If there is a moral to this story, it would be to take the time to enjoy while you can. Just remember there is a tomorrow so don't squander all your resources today.

Me, I should have squandered a lot more.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The streettracker pic got me thinkin'... Anon guaranteed there would be no Revo "Buells." I still think the Revo engine is too valuable to waste on the nichey Buell brand, so what if Buell is testing a Revo bike that will ultimately be branded an H-D? Is there a precedent?
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roger,

Anytime you want to come back your always welcome.

I only wish I could have put you guys up at the house - but you saw how many we got squat into that place.

hmmmmmmmmm

Sell toys and get bigger house or keep toys.

KEEP TOYS

It was funny though that every time I called out to the hotel for you all I had to ask for was "da boys"

Send me an e-mail so I remember to send a copy of the cd-rom version of the encyclopedia of Newfoundland.
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Precedent? I don't know. I just look at it as a Tuber which is something HD does well and something BMC isn't into at the moment.

Would be a sporting bike to ride but by no means a competitive piece of machinery. At least not in any of today's venues. Just kind of a Retro Fun bike that I would dearly love to have. Guess that would definitely make it a HD and not a BMC product, eh?
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Might be time to do some fence line runs....
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or just hang out on 83 in Mukwonago.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, but the fence line is on the way home... sort of. : )

Hwy-59 near 83 is another good spot. Seems some early riders like to swap female passengers in the grocery store parking lot there on weeknight afterwork ride homes. Saw my first V-Rod there one evening.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anon has a better record than Dyna. Between the two, I'll take the word of Anon over 2nd hand eavesdropped hearsay every time.
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Uwgriz
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He could be right, he could be wrong but without taking sides, overall Dyna hasn't been too bad. Including on the USD fork deal.

(Message edited by uwgriz on August 25, 2004)
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have to be kidding Blake. For every item that came out anon has denied it. Not once has any anon ever given Badweb a "scoop". Where as I have.
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake...That's a good one but is it really a fair comparo?

Dyna is a speculative dreamer like the rest of us. Whereas, Anon can't play the game for obvious reasons.

Regardless, I am pleased to read whatever posts Anon makes. Not only for the content but so much more for knowing that he is here with us.

When you think about it, it is almost a religious experience.
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love the dreams and the scoops. Just don't shoot the messenger next time.
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Buelluk
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

.....hopefully it will be the 2007 50th Anniversary Sportster.....}

so what if Buell is testing a Revo bike that will ultimately be branded an H-D? Is there a precedent?
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Misato
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

who was the anon that swore up and down there would be NO XB12. and KEPT saying no 12. funny, shortly after that POOF. 12!
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Might have been a "Sacrificial Anon." LOL
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M2me
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't Anon say, "not in a million years" about the XB12? The XB12 was unveiled about five months later. See, Anon was right all along. It was five months, not a million years!
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José_quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With all the Buell choppers Redneck engineering is building, they should have plenty of Buell frames to play with.

now the engine is another matter....

(Message edited by josé_quiñones on August 25, 2004)
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea, Anon could be being REALLY literal. NEVER a Revolution-engined Buell, but one powered by a new water-cooled, 1130 cc, double overhead cam, 4-valve per cylinder, V-twin built by HD which uses many of the same parts....
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Regardless of what was said and whatever the facts are, it is still poor form to post derogatory comments, by name, of any Buell employee powerless to defend themselves.

Simply bad manners.

Court
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1313
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd have to go with Anon on this one. IMHO, when I first read Dyna's post during my lunch I thought he was trying to make himself look better by bragging 'I know something you don't know'. Just because Buell won't make a Revo powered Buell doesn't mean some Hooligan out there won't make one in their garage. Hell, if I could justify cutting up my V-Rod and my S2 and end up with one sweet bike from two sweet bikes, there would be one already. Fortunately, I know 2 is better than 1. Kind of funny, an Engineer that can still handle basic math problems. (Usually once an Engineer learns to integrate, you lose your skills to add and subtract...) Now the mention of a crashed V-Rod to donate it's powertrain to one of the frames from the many chopperized Buell's sounds like...the ride of a lifetime!
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1313
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He did some ripping on Dan Hurda, was telling his buddy that all he had to do was kiss "Daves" @ss...never got a last name of this Dave.

Was talking some major crap about his ability to work as much OT as he wanted & how he cleared $100,000 last year.


Almost sounds like comments of this type could've come out of Dyna's mouth...er, keyboard...

Again, IMHO,
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Havent met Hurda & have no idea which Dave he was talking about.

And Court, perhaps said employee should learn to watch what he says in a public place? The walls have ears. he could defend himself...just use the lame anon feature.
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Coolice
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dyna keep listening and watching for me. You will be right as I ordered the Road Glide because Buell didn't come out with a sport tourer that we ALL want. It's the story of my life, I upgrade a bike to what I think would be a model that should be made and bingo the mfr comes out with the bike I wanted before..... So I bet the Revo/sport tourer is in the pipeline.....
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few years ago, Erik was running around on a bike with a turbo. The factory hasn't released a turbocharged model yet. The factory is going to play around with a bunch of concept bikes, and if you were in the right place at the right time, you'd see them and think they were a new upcoming model. But a lot of really neat concepts never see production; like H-D's Nova.
I've worked for some small companies over the years, and seldom do the employees know exactly what's being planned upper management. They may see completed bikes that they think are headed for production, but those bikes get sidelined for other reasons.
It sounds like the overheard employee was drunk, (or getting there) and trying to encourage a friend to come to work where he was working. In my experience, what was said in such conversations has little to do with reality.
I'd take everything that was said with a lot more than just a grain of salt.
I just hope that the guy doesn't lose his job. A very good friend of mine lost his job at H-D because he made a few comments on Buell enthusiast websites, and he didn't even mention any products, or divulge any secrets.
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Kaudette
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, do us all a favor and do not quote things like people's names, incomes & personal views on their co-workers - especially on a Buell - centric board.

Maybe the guy was loaded, full of sh**, completely right in his accusations / recommendations - who knows... Regardless, this is not the place to hang out the dirty laundry - it is one thing if the guy came here and started spouting all this first hand, but entirely another to have you transcribe 2nd hand conversations to which you were not invited, nor expected to be privy of.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty, I know all about the concept bike bit & trying out new things. But why is it that Buell & the anons will deny even considering such a bike when the cold hard reality is that they are indeed at least testing them as mule bikes.

What the hell would be so wrong with the factory actually telling the enthusiasts "yes we are looking into & possibly producing a watercooled bike or a touring or a combination of both"?

Toss the fans a bone every now & then & we wouldnt have to play Dick Tracy everytime we get north of West Allis.
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Toss the fans a bone every now & then

Ahhhh...The dreaded KTM marketing theory. LOL

Anon has every right to question the soundness of that practice.

Most corporations shine that as they fear it will queer sales of existing models. KTM can afford to do it as they are building excitement (and getting feedback) concerning a market segment they have never entered before and all it can do is add to their existing business. Same goes for Yamaha and the MT-01.

As for HDI, I don't blame them for making HD and BMC hold their cards close to their chest. Lots of loyalty and emotion in both customer bases and lots of negativity elsewhere as well as the ability of their competition to copy elements of their designs and beat them to market. All of which indicate that announcements of anything but the final "ready for production" product could be suicidal.

Just an opinion, but worthy of consideration.
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