| Author | Message | ||
     Rocketman |
Blake understands the difference between tires, but cant understand or relate to the extreme differences in performance between the 2 bikes. My point entirely! Rocket | ||
| Blake |
So now even on a tight track you think HP outweighs tire grip? Then bring that R1 down to OHR and prove it. | ||
| Blake |
I've ridden various superbikes. You ever lap a track on street tires and then later, racing tires? | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
OHR...OHR...LOL, is that the only damn track you can think of? I have seen pics of the weed infested "track" & I use the word "track" loosely. Nothing like having a huge homefield advantage right?  | ||
| Blake |
HP HP HP, is that all you can think of? Nothing like having a huge HP advantage right? If you are unwilling to accept the challenge, simply say so. No need to make ignorant statements about something you know little about. I'd put more weight in the opinions of those who learned to race there, guys like Collin Edwards, Nicky Hayden, Ben Spies, John Haner and Ty Howard. I'd be happy to spend a couple days making sure you learn the track as well as I have. edited by blake on July 19, 2004 | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Hmm, I seem to remember you did the same thing to Cecil..kept pushing OHR. I already offered next year at RA during the Buell homecoming. You going to accept or not? You think tires will make a huge difference no matter what track..remember thats what the debate is about. I never once said on some tiny rinky dink track where my bike couldnt even begin to stretch its legs that tires or even track knowledge wouldnt make a big difference. You stated that even at a track such as RA you would prevail because of the tire difference. You willing to back that statement up? Im game if you are. | ||
| Glitch |
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| Firebolt020283 |
were can i get tickets to see this show oh wait im in iraq some one video tape it for me i wanna see this | ||
| Socoken |
"No man's knowledge here can go beyond his experience." -John Locke Blake claims to have ridden various superbikes, and has obvious understanding of racing rubber. to not take his opinion to heart, is closed mindedness at its best. to which end i suggest Blake compose a letter, being the well spoken one of the lot, that squid can agree is fair. Send it to some reputable sources, and see what responses may be given. Blakes been in CW once to my knowledge, why not give it another shot? otherwise, this is not getting anywhere until a race. | ||
| 420at145mph |
screw a race i wanna see a fight | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
weather its a race or yall put on boxing gloves video tape that •••• i wanna see | ||
| Misato |
I'll bring my DV and put it on my web site  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
good idea misato that way we can all see this | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
i wanna see a fight Not gonna happen....ever. I have met Blake & consider him a friend. A bullheaded friend. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
theres nothing wrong with freinds setteling there differences with some boxing gloves in the yard | ||
| 420at145mph |
well then agree on a place n stop bitching already damn this is just silly like a cpl of little 10 yr old girls | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Hey bring your @ss from North CrapHole Dakota & join up. Just dont be showing none of us up with those massive wheelies of yours | ||
| Opto |
I never once said on some tiny rinky dink track where my bike couldnt even begin to stretch its legs that tires or even track knowledge wouldnt make a big difference. So you agree that tires do make a big difference, and at what speed does that fermented rice-bucket start to "stretch it's legs"??? Oh, is that the speed where it starts to wind up so it can overtake Buells? | ||
| Smoke |
1st gear, 2nd gear, maybe 3rd with the r1 at ohr. what's your 3rd gear top out at, greg? jmo, tim | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Hmm 3rd gear...I dont really know. 1st is good for 95 or so then 2nd I will shift out of around 120-125, 3rd I have taken up to around 135-140. Opto..I never said tires wouldnt make a difference, Hell I know my bike would be faster on pure race tires. What I am saying is that on a track such as RA the difference in tires wouldnt be enough to offset the huge performance & handling advantage the R1 has over an M2. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Blake, you gonna accept the challenge or what? | ||
| Kaudette |
Guys, this is getting a bit tiring... R1, I know I don't "have" to come here and read these useless posts. That being said, sometimes this site is a jewel full of useful & pertinent Buell & biking info, other times it is a joke. We're veering off the path of worthwhile & useful with this type of sand box baby talk. The XB-Vrod thread has turned into a 45 lp discussion for chri*** sake. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
LOL, I hear you about the record deal..that thread went sour pretty fast. This one has stayed somewhat on course, although skipper has tried to steer us off course a few times. | ||
| Glitch |
I hope this is the place to post this. I saw an R1 at Cycle Gear. The only plastic he had was the tail section. Had one of those small flyscreens with the headlamps built in. Looked kinda like a motard/streetfighter. He did what you were talking about doing by gearing it down, although I think maybe he went with replacing both sprockets. He said it wouldn't go over 135 anymore. But the slow effortless wheelies he was doin' was extra cool. Kinda like he was in slow motion. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Yea a few guys have gone that route, but with the gearing I have on now its the best of both worlds. Great top speed as well as killer off the line torque. | ||
| Grndskpr |
If Blake has made a trip to Laguna this year, than i dont feel that going to RA would be such a big deal, i would be happy to put you and your wife up for a few extra days, so that you could see the great city of Chicago, my wife would be happy to take your lovely wife out shopping, so she could also have a great vacation away from home, best of both worlds Plus you would actually be able to show your support to the Buell comunity by comeing to at least one home coming, or ride home, i would even allow you to take the RS up to the open house, all this for just a few minutes of your time on a track, against Dyna How could you pass that up???? Just say the word and i will make some space in my small home R | ||
| Blake |
Dyna, "You stated that even at a track such as RA you would prevail because of the tire difference." You no read good. Try again. "What I am saying is that on a track such as RA the difference in tires wouldn't be enough to offset the huge performance & handling advantage the R1 has over an M2." You no read good. Try again. huge handling advantage??? I only challenged Cecil to bring his ZX12R to OHR after he spouted off that he and his ZX12R could beat me and my M2 on any track of my choosing. I chose OHR. He of course waffled and prevaricated and evaded out of backing up his own challenge, even with people offering to pay his expenses. Not very honorable, but damn smart. He would have been humiliated. Roger, I flew out to see the race and characters at Laguna Seca, so did not have the bike, let alone all it requires for race support. But your offer is very attractive. Michele loves Chicago. Sounds like a lot of fun. Strange that what started out being a question about the relative advantages of racing tires has now somehow become a challenge of Blake and his M2 against Greg and his R1. Strange how my expressions of doubt about the outcome of such a contest at RA have now been twisted by Greg into me claiming "that even at a track such as RA (I) would prevail because of the tire difference." I said no such thing. What I said was... Then later... Followed by...
I'd love to make it up to the Homecoming next year. Not sure if I want to tote the bike in racing form in the back of my truck. You averse to coming to Kilgore, Texas for a weekend of track school at OHR. Badmouth it all you want, it's only 20 minutes from my home. How far is RA from your home? Ridden on it before? | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Strange that what started out being a question about the relative advantages of racing tires has now somehow become a challenge of Blake and his M2 against Greg and his R1. Damn I thought it was really just an excuse to get a bunch of us on the track for a track day?! I personally think a better test would be for both of you to head out and do both the Streets of Willow and the Big Track at Willow. It would be like haveing OHR and RA at the same location. This would also negate any home field advantage. Or better yet, find a track half way between both of you and lets see if we can get it set up as a BADWEB BBQ or something. I mean why should anyone have any kind of home track advantage implied or otherwise? | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
(seperate topic but in same thread) DOT racing tires will run over $300 a set while the street versions can be had for just over $200 a set. No competitive racer, no matter their budget constraints, will run street tires. My point was that a STREET rider would concider buying a set of DOT race tires since they are DOT legal and still call them street tires. |
