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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yesterday I sure would have liked to have been on an R1. I was cruisin on a feeder road to one of the highways in my area when a late model Cobra Mustang pulled up next to me. I was cruisin in third when he pulled up (I had just left a stop light and was slowly working my way up in the gears). Any way he pulls up and we both nail it. We were both neck n neck until I hit the rev limiter and shifted into 4th. While I was shifting he went ahead by about 20 feet and was pulling. I wasn't catching him in 4th, pretty much just maintaining the gap he got on me. Then we both pretty much shut it down and cruised to the next stop light where we exchanged thumbs up nice and friendly like.

Yeah the extra HP and higher revs would have ben nice.
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Xblue9r
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny, i was taking an onramp three nights ago in heavy traffic...was either in front of or behind a semi that couldn't move over for me...i opted for in front of, with ease (on the r1). if i had had the xb, no way in hell could i have got in front of him.

gotta love 65mph speed zones that the general flow is doing 80mph on.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason, had a similar deal only with a late model Vette. Pretty quick car but was no match for the R1.
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Boulderbiker
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What the heck kinda mustang was that? hp to weight ratio means it had to have been a monster!
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Blublak
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's funny.. I've had no problem lately with pulling away from STOCK moustangs.. On my Harley no less.. and yes, we were gettin' it a little.
Plus, I can't remember a time that the XB wouldn't be able to pass someone doing 80mph.. Now, passing Dyna when he had the R1 up and pumpin'.. that would take some extra work from someone.. or at least a little collusion with Dyna! hehehehe..

Later,
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ken, for a 22 year old who claims to have seen 180 indicated on gsxr, I can't believe you 'DON'T care'. But then again, you do admit to being an idiot.

All I can say Ken is if I were in my early twenties I'd care a lot about the acceleration of an MV 1000 F4. Still, if you want to live a sheltered life, that's your choice, but this thread is about 172mph, and that's our choice.

Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm 0-160, I will say 16 seconds.

The R1 will hit 0-140 in 11 seconds


Not bad Dyna. You've been doing your homework - on the R1.

The MV hits 160 in a staggering 12.81 seconds and 564.54 meters. I doubt the R1 could match the MV in another 1.81 seconds <grin>. I'm surprised you thought the MV would take another 5 seconds to 160 over the R1's 140 in 11 seconds.

Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kaudette, I'm hoping MV drop that 1000cc lump into the Brutale. I'll have then for sure.

Rocket
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I lived in Hawaii, I would make pizza deliveries on a Yamaha Zuma...I often wore my springsuit wetsuit under my workclothes to stay warm enough in the torrential downpours that would spring up. It also seemed that I and one other driver got the busiest cause we could actually deal with the flashflooding across the streets of Waikiki when it rained that hard and the Ala Wai canal would flood over its banks...

oh and I too got the Coconut comment when I read it : )
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love the MV.
That damn Senna edition is my dream bike. One day..oh yes one day she will be mine: D

Course that only has the little 750 in it.
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Socoken
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cheeeeeel out Sean.

you have to understand where "DONT care" comes from, and the context to which i use it. im sorry if i offended you, or insulted the speed gods. i was just kidding. , since the MV is so much faster than the R1, you bet your i care!!!

youre right, i do admit to being an idiot, and judging by your tone, you do not believe that i have gone that fast. you know what?

DONT care
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strange that those who put so much emphasis on racing performance, don't race.

Some data on Ford Mustang versus XB9 performance...

Ford Mustang Boss 350 V-10: 12.88 sec @ 114.4 mph quarter-mile

Ford Mustang SVT Cobra: 13.01 sec @ 110.7 mph quarter-mile

Ford Mustang GT: Slower still.

Buell XB9R: 11.86 sec. @ 114.9 mph quarter-mile

Aerodynamics are likely to favor the Mustang once speeds notch above 100 mph.

Though, if racing performance is that important to you, you might want to consider the following assessment of the XB9R versus the '02 R1...

quote:

This time, we set out upon the Firebolt and the lovely new Ducati Supersport, with an `02 Yamaha R1 as chase vehicle because it was there. Lo and behold, upon reaching our favorite set of curves once again (which we all know by now like the dorsal surfaces of our own John Thomases), not only did the little Buell draw away from the Ducati, it actually gapped the Yamaha as well--a 139-horsepower chariot of the gods that weighs not much more! What the?! We swapped bikes several times, field-sobriety-tested each other repeatedly, and the same scenario kept repeating itself while Mini kept up a steady rant about the Buell STILL being an ill-handling piglet, and how could this be?

From... http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/02xb900.motml




Just offering a different perspective.

If someone gifted me a new R1, I'd keep it, at least for a while. : )

The undertail exhaust is a real winner in the styling arena. Too bad Kawi cannot grasp that part of the motorcycle design exercise, cause they sure nailed the design in lots of other spots, especially the brakes.

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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

japanese kawis DO have the undertail exhaust
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Jasonblue
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As opposed to the French Kawis?
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

as opposed to the kawis available in the states
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Jasonblue
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was just bein a smart .
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Jasonblue
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Horsepower and performance are America's national obsession.

Not everyone that builds a hot rod takes it to the strip.
Not everyone that flys an airplane works for Continental or the Airforce.
Not everyone that shoots guns goes hunting.

Its called living life to the fullest. Whether you do it on the track, off the track, as a full time job or on the weekends. People need to fill that rush, and do according to what time and or budget they have available. And if they don't I feel sorry for them, might as well be dead already.

Take a look at any of those vids where guys have a camera mounted behind their fairings. THATS why people want race performance even though they don't "race".

Once again, not so strange.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, it's just strange that those who don't race are the ones most concerned about racing type performance. I race and am not concerned with being able to go 172 mph on my street bike. Most of the racers I know don't even ride racer replicas on the street.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Donnie,
That's interesting. I wonder why? If anything, I'd think Japan has even stricter noise and air pollution laws than do we. Got any pictures?

Or maybe they are planning a major aftermarket parts sale strategy. That would be smart.
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

saw the pic in some cycle rag
cant remember what one
but it was a preview of the 05's
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ken, I'm not in the least bit offended by your view of speed, though I am surprised by it from a youngster. Never the less, I consider it your problem Hope you don't mind me saying so LOL

Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, several times in recent weeks I've heard you say stuff like 'strange that those who put so much emphasis on racing performance, don't race'.

You've been going to the track what, two seasons? You race a pretty lame bike for a racer. I mean, you can't really call an M2 a race bike. Hell, a 25 year old TZ250 would shame your M2 yet you spout comments like you're Kenny Roberts SENIOR. What's all that about? Suddenly you're the voice of experience?

What gets up my nose is those like you who've been on the track all of five minutes then start preaching to the rest of the world who don't race that we know fcuk all about riding bikes fast.

One more thing, and no disrespect to Buell, you're delusional if you think a Buell could stay in front of an R1. Tell me wise believer, at what point would the Buell get past the R1? Then again, perhaps you could prove me wrong? See you at next years TT - on a Buell? Hell, I'll lend you mine if you think you can do any good

Rocket

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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, was in the MV dealers just today. There's a stunning matt black \ carbon fiber 750SPR in there. 2 years old and not much more than a thousand miles on her. Like a new pin but used - £13000. Next time I go I'll take the camera.

Rocket
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Clydeglide
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, I must say I can agree with about everything you say. Sometimes, however, we must learn restraint. You know, read what you are about to post before you hit the "post message" button. Sorta like making sure no one in front of you is about to do something stupid at the same time your going WFO on an R1 or a Busa.

And about his race comment.....that's just a Courtism. They can't go 172 on a stock Buell. So they all over those of us who do own bikes that are capable of those speeds. It's the BadWeb way.

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Socoken
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what i dont get, is why speed freaks need to convert everyone to their cause. anyone that bought a Buell, did so knowing that top speed was not a worthwhile factor when buying a bike(in their opinion), if they didnt, they are wrong. so it would seem to me, this isnt the best place to profess the greatness of top speed, unless of course, you are just fishing, in which case, ill bite.

everyone likes to go fast, its human nature, but if you think you are better than me because you have a faster bike, it is i who feel sorry for you.

Buells are not superbikes, they are not produced for the person that wants to go 188mph, and they make no pretensions about it. so why do people constantly try and prove that a bike designed to go a lot faster, does?

i do like to hear about your duc Sean, its a wonderful machine. and i do, despite prior protests, read Dynas posts about his R1 and its speed. some people live for the speed of it, some dont. i like to read about it, it interests me. but if you think im going to sell my Buell to buy a repli-racer so i can go 170mph, youre preaching to the wrong choir.

Regards,

Ken
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Jasonblue
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its kind of funny Ken, that some one who is not a speed freak would want the Buell Co. to add a 6 speed tranny and more horse power. That is what you put on your profile when asked what changes Buell should make. Or do you need to change that?

Fact is, that is what most of the members on this website say in their profiles. I don't really care about 160 or 180 top speeds. But I bet alot of us would like our Buells to be able to hang with a R1 in the quarter mile, or have the same roll on times.

Gee I wonder why so many of us want to squeeze all the horse power we can out of our bikes. Why are people building 1050, 1200, 1350 and even 1500cc XBs?

So you want more horse power and a 6 speed tranny? Better edit your profile or buy an R1.

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Socoken
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i like six speeds cause everything ive ridden with one shifted a lot easier. thats going to get me to 180 how? we all want more power, but if your goal when you bought a Buell was to keep up with an R1, you are lost.

IF i had an M2 that would do 170, then all you would hear is, "but hes got 10 grand in mods in that bike, what a waste, he could have just bought an R1" (LSR aside)

yes, we all want that performance, but we all (should have) bought Buells because top speed is not the most important thing.

we keep spending money on performance because its a hobby, and without changing/modifying/tinkering, we would have nothing to do in the winter.

relax chief, its all in good fun.

what amazes me is that people keep telling me whats in my profile. how in the hell am i not gonna know whats in MY profile. more surprising yet, is that no one comments on my pic.

edited by socoken on July 06, 2004
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was bustin wheelies on a kdx50 all weekend
heh shoulda got some pics
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want the sixth gear not for topspeed but for lower cruising RPM on the freeway, as for more HP yes I too would like that but not to go 172 on the Buell but just to have that extra power on tap for when I need it. If that translates into a higher top speed then fine, its not the goal I am after for my Buell. I really would like to go that fast again. It is a hell of a rush, but alas I have had my taste of mortality and honestly until that taste passes...I can wait.
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Jasonblue
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know its all in fun thats mainly my point. This started out as a top speed post but has become more of a performance post. I don't give 2 sihts about top speed I haven't even topped out my XB.

As far as relaxing you might want to read your own posts. You're the one talking about speed freaks wanting to convert people. Where do you get that from this thread? This thread is about speed, because fast bikes exist people are going to talk about them. If you don't want people like me to respond to your gripe posts go somewhere else.

For tha record you CAN be a speed freak and own a Buell. Speed is not defined by top speed alone. I sure would like to see how you ride your Buell.

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