| Author | Message | ||
     Midknyte |
http://www.motorbikestoday.com/news/Articles/fischer_mrx650.htm Limited production run of claimed "First American Superbike" coming. Of American design maybe, but I have reservations calling it an American Superbike when it's got a foreign engine... To be sure, the XB's have a variety of lineage in their parts, but it feels good somehow to have that Harley/Buell powerplant in the middle of it. Bike shown in article is yellow and is a very nice, angular, full fairing job. I'd like to see it in grey, black and Carbon Fiber, ala Stealth colors. | ||
| Cataract2 |
What I find funny is it has less tq and hp that the Buells. To top that off it looks like another jap sport bike in design. Groan. This is why I like the Buells, they have a look and sound all their own. Just need a few more hp points for them. Price for one is the same for the Buell XB12. Can't wait to see the numbers it puts out in the 1/4 and on the track. Doubt it will be impresive. | ||
| Tucsonxb9s |
The prototype has been around the show circuit for a while now. The motor is a Korean version of the SV650 motor if I'm not mistaken. You would think that they would've opted for the 1000cc mill instead. I don't think they'll sell a lot at that price point and Fischer might not be around for very long. Too bad to, because more competition can only help to improve future Buell models. | ||
| 420at145mph |
theres a black one on the fischer1 website looks cool but them some low ••• numbers | ||
| Bomber |
whjen I saw the subject line, I thought someone might have gotten their hands on a Crocker! ah well . . . .where's that ice flow? btw, I wish Fischer well . . . .competition is good for everyone | ||
| Daves |
Gotta love the back edge of the gas tank. Looks real comfy? Dave | ||
| Socoken |
looks cool but them some low ••• numbers thats funny, i think a lot of rice riders say the same about Buells if theres any truth in that weight, the bike would be great for track days. think of it as an SV650 with all the suspension and brake upgrades done already, with an aggressive riding position, not nearly as ugly, and riders can claim it as American made. i kinda like it. would i ever buy one? nope. | ||
| Rockbiter1 |
Look at the total weight though...349 pounds...thats less than a Blast (360lbs) with 2.3 times the hp and 1.7 times the torque. Should be quite fun to ride | ||
| Ted |
Dont know where they get the 'superbike' label from. 650cc ?? | ||
| Buckinfubba |
if thats a superbike ....so is my thruxton. the gas tank is way off design wise...hell it could be a table top. but fischers gets an a plus for gettin in the game....and there publisit needs a raise for getting people to write about it and call it a supper bike | ||
| Johncr250 |
That prototype has been around from Fischer for a couple of years now. The last time i saw the bike, they were planning to use the 1000cc Rotax V twin in it. Goodlooking bike though, i`m sure they could sell some based on looks alone. | ||
| Tucsonxb9s |
On the link they claim a wet weight of estimated 392 lbs, not 349. I'm thinking it won't be enough ponies to call it a "superbike". What's a stock SV weigh? | ||
| Brucelee |
This is a superbike? I don't get it and I don't see it every being sold. And if I wanted a SV 650, I would buy it from Suzuki. Been reading about that as long as that other Buell copy, the KTM bike that we have been seeing in magazines for say, oh, EVER! While these dude are drawing and molding, we are riding. And then there is that VROD engine! Now that would be a superbike. Dream on Fisher and KTM. | ||
| Sshbsn |
Looked all right from afar, then I saw the tank from the rider's view and HAHAHAHAHA  I wish Fischer the best of success but he should get a refund from Glynn Kerr! | ||
| Koz5150 |
I read an article about the Korean bike and it was supposed to have a decent motor. I don't understand how it can be an American bike with a Korean motor and British styling? Where does the American part come in??? | ||
| Rockbiter1 |
Yup, i stand corrected on the weight...i must have been looking thru my beer goggles again...dry weight 367lbs, 392lbs wet. | ||
| Cerbero |
BORING! looks like every other "superbike" on the road... give me something different; give me a buell! (oh, wait... i've already got one. nevermind.) | ||
| Cyclonemick |
The side view looks pretty fast!! | ||
| José_quiñones |
Fischer: Designed by Americans, frame and swingarm made in America. Korean Engine. Swedish Suspension. Assembled in America (Maryland to be specific) Buell: Designed by Americans, frame and swingarm made in Italy. American Engine. Japanese Suspension. Assembled in America (Wisconsin) If you judge it by weight, the Buell is more American (the motor I'm sure weighs more than the Fischer's frame and swingarm combined. If you judge it by engine origin, the Buell is more American. If you judge it by Chassis, the Fischer would be more American (Designed/built here). Plus Gemini is involved in this bike, so there is a VR1000 connection to it. If you want an American Sportbike, you will now have a choice. If the wet weight is accurate, a 50 pound lighter choice at that with better suspension and better looks (in my opinion) than the Buell. Power to Weight ratios should be similar to the XB9. The bike should be reliable as it will not try to shake itself appart. Competition is good. Let the market decide. edited by josé_quiñones on June 30, 2004 | ||
| Buckinfubba |
jose the main thing here I think is the use of the word "SUPERBIKE" like I said they get an a plus for gettin in the game....but a superbike it ain't just like the buells are not superbikes | ||
| Hootowl |
I hope Fischer succeeds. They don't seem to be doing any cutting edge stuff like Buell does or Britten did, but you've got to give them credit for bringing such a polished first year product to market. It should also be recognized that there is probably a 140 hp liter bike waiting in the wings. Jeff edited by hootowl on June 30, 2004 | ||
| Brucelee |
"but you've got to give them credit for bringing such a polished first year product to market. It should also be recognized that there is probably a 140 hp liter bike waiting in the wings." VAPORWARE! Where are these so called superbikes? Can I ride one locally here in SOCAL? Where it the new KTM bike?? Hmmmm. | ||
| Bomber |
I'll take bets that we'll be able to purchase the KTM before the Fischer (although the KTM is at the mercy of a non-core product of a pretty small outfit . . . I hope they bring it out, though) . . . . while we're waiting, I think I'll just ride my existing bikes and keep grinnin'! | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
The KTM duke is coming, ever since its announcement they have stated it was to be a 2005 model. | ||
| Midknyte |
We may not consider it to be a superbike, but from a marketing standpoint - calling itself one puts it [at some level] in the same class / mindset of the ricers, which is surely its target segment. If you're going for that market, you gotta act like it... | ||
| Hootowl |
Brucelee, they claim its going into production in August. We'll see. Those footpeg hangers don't look like one of a kind hand made parts. More like they were produced in volume, which would suggest that there are actual plans for production. I don't think this is a vaporbike. | ||
| Tucsonxb9s |
I do believe the Fischer will get produced, but I just think they've missed their mark. The bike looks wicked but the 650 is the wrong motor choice at that price point. Earlier talks were about the Rotax v-twin out of the Aprilia to power it. That motor would've made more sense. If the price were a couple grand lighter or the motor 350cc bigger, they may have had a winner on their hands. As it stands, I'll keep my XB and see what happens. | ||
| Glitch |
What happened to the super-charger they talked about earlier? | ||
| José_quiñones |
It's in the works:
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| José_quiñones |
Is the Ducati 749 considered a Superbike? Ducati thinks so. The non supercharged Fischer would be less expensive than the cheapest 749 model, the Dark. | ||
| Brucelee |
Talk is cheap! | ||
| Starter |
Lucky they put a 530 chain on it. All that power is likely to tear anything less apart. | ||
| Elvis |
Can they get into Thunderbike? Would they be competitive? That might make things interesting. | ||
| José_quiñones |
They could race in FUSA Thunderbike and/or in AMA Formula Extreme (bumped up to a 750) if they wanted to or were willing to spend the money. It would be good advertising. If they want to be considered a Superbike, they should be expected to race it at the FUSA at least and the AMA level eventually. I don't think the supercharged version would be legal. | ||
| Xb9er |
The KTM duke is coming, ever since its announcement they have stated it was to be a 2005 model. I think he means the KTM RC-8 sportbike (with the new LC-8 942cc, 75° V-Twin powerplant). I heard from a KTM dealer (I know, not a credible source) that the RC-8 was to come out in late 2005 as a 2006 model. But I think you are right about the new Dukes. Mike. | ||
| Xb9er |
For what it's worth, that gas tank on the Fischer actually looks very functional. If you slip in there and get in a good tuck, with knees squeezing the tank, you're going to be wedged in tight and won't be going anywhere. When you get a knee down, it also looks like that design would allow you to slide your leg around smoothly and give you a better hold. (this coming from someone who only watches racing and has never gotten a knee down!) As far as comfort on the street, only way to tell would be to ride one. Mike. |
