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Mfell2112
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When is Buell gonna put a counter balancer on the paint shaker? If they had a balanced motor I would buy a new Buell. I rode the new XB12s last week. Great bike but, it still has the paint shaker. No sale. Looks like that motor mount would break in the near future as well on the new one's. I think if my motor had a counter balancer my motor mount would not be in two pieces right now. Everybody is riding except me. Does Buell offer me a loaner bike while my bike is parked at the shop because they don't have the abilty to design a bike that won't explode? Why of course not. This friggin bike goes into the shop one more time this year I am gonna drop it off at Buells office myself and raise a little heck in the process. Hey Buell HD the heck with rubber mounting balance the friggin motor already!!!!!!!What are you waiting for? By the time you get around to balancing the Sporty motor we will have been to Mars and back a dozen times. Screw the potato potato sound balance the paint shaker.My ride is busting bolts and loosening up parts as I type this!!!!!:-)

Regards
Mike

2000 self destructing Buell Cyclone with only 9000 miles. My old Chevy has 250,000 miles on it and has been to the shop less then my Buell.

PS, if that busted mount caused cosmetic damage to my frame and the paint shaker Uke's and Buell is gonna wish they never had me as a customer.:-)They longer it takes to get fixed the more angry I become. Heck nobody stocks motormounts for my ancient Buell anymore. It took a week just to get the part. Who is going riding Saturday? I can't ride tomowrrow. You know why? BECAUSE MY FRIGGIN BOMB OF A MOTORCYCLE IS IN THE SHOP!!!I feel much better now.:-)
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good luck dealing with Ukes pukes, you are gonna need it.
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M2me
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Mfell2112 and Dyna actually the same person?

Who is going riding Saturday?

I am! On my 2001 M2 with 15,600 trouble free miles! It's never been in the shop except for oil changes!

I'm sorry. I shouldn't kick you when you're down.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Enjoy riding tomowwrow.

Regards

Mike
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Order the Motor Mount from Aaron over at Nallins.

I am sure theirs is much stronger!!!!!

39000km and pretty trouble free!!!!!

I love my paint shaker......absolutely love it........thats what gives the bike character, if I wanted something balanced I'd go buy a japanese inline 4.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if I wanted something balanced Fast, I'd go buy a japanese inline 4.

Fixed it for ya: D
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Kaudette
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

R1 - get over it.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who is going riding Saturday?

I am. On my 40,000 mile paint shaker. If you want a trouble free bike, Good Luck. There is no such thing. They ALL break. Even R1s break. Your old chevy hasn't been to the shop as much, because it was engineered for reliability. If it were a motorcycle, it would have about the performance of a Ural, with the excitement level to match.
Yesterday, I went up to Laconia, and test rode XBs. The XBs are the most trouble free motorcycles manufactured today, according to J.D. Powers. There's nothing wrong with paint shakers.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a front motor mount for a 2000 M2 I will sell you or $25 plus shipping. Is that all you need?

chevydan1@hotmail.com
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not trying to make light of your problems Mike but I have sold about 150 or so Buells and to my knowledge NONE have broken a front motor mount. I do not know why yours broke and I am sorry that it did, but it does not mean that they all break. That is probably the reason no one stocks motor mounts.
Like I said, not trying to bust on you, just putting things in perspective.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MY XB is flawless to date and requires virtually no maint. vs jap bikes. Try doing those valves on an R1 sometime.

Ugh.

Love that Buell!
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bruce....

#1..I was having a little fun with Newfie
#2..The R1 gets its valve clearance checked every 26,600 miles. Hmmm how long does the v-twin motor go between top end rebuilds or complete replacement? Ask XB9Ski.

Not getting into a pissing contest here, but stating checking valve clearances every 26,000 miles is something worth NOT buying a bike over is ridiculous.

BTW...have yet to hear of anyone who had em checked at that mileage & actually needed anything adjusted.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the offer Buelliedan. I have the mount already. I was wise enough to purchase the exteneded warranty. The big problem I am having is the bolt broke in my head. Uke's said there is a slight chance they may have to replace it. The head that is but, first they are going to try and extract it.

Dave what I think happened is the bolt sheared off and when the motor dropped down a bit it broke the motor mount. Look at the pic I provided in another thread. I love my Buell I just don't want it to live up to the old Buell reputation.

Actually Newfie a Moto Guzzi V twin is balanced as well as the Ducati. You can have a soulful balanced V twin. Yea its funny lots of aftermarket motormounts for the Buell. Why is that? I don't want to put any more money into my ride. It is basically stock and I am expecting the stock Buell mount to serve it's purpose.Am I expecting too much here?

Crusty I understand there are no trouble free bikes but, mine has only 9000 miles on it. I don't abuse my ride. It has been in the shop four times already. Also, if I wanted an all out performance bike I wouldn't own a Buell which is only a couple of steps above a Ural in the speed department.:-) You had that coming with that comment about my Chevy.:-)There are plenty of machines out there to serve that purpose. I just want to be able to ride my bike and not worry about the motor falling out of the frame. Is that asking too much? Yea I used to stick up for Buell just like many of us here. When motor mounts break and my life is at stake all bets are off. Motor mounts should never break even under severe abuse.

Regards

Mike
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,

Never said not to buy a r1 over maint issues, simply to point out that compared to most bikes out there, the XB maint is a piece of cake and cheap to boot!

Moreover, if he is ranting about waiting for parts, I can refer him to some folks (including me) who have sat on their for many weeks waiting for Suzuki parts (imagine my cousins surprise when he could not locate a chain and rear sprocket for a SV650. Gee, didn't they make a few of those?

Anyway, it seems that when some Buell owners have repair issues, every other bike ever make becomes perfect in their eyes.

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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As Mike pointed out he doesnt expect perfect, hell none of us do. After all our bikes are basically toys, but when critical parts fail that could endanger your life, then yes I can see why he is upset. And when they do break due to something like this thats beyond an owners control, I think the dealership should step up to the plate & do everything he can to keep that rider happy & get him back out on the road asap. I fully expect something on my R1 to break, & if & when it does I expect fast & courteous service.

There is absolutely no reason a motor mount should fail on a bike. Dave I realize you have sold em & supposedly not 1 owner has had a motor mount problem, but you & I both know its been a well documented problem over the years with the tube framed mounts pulling the bolts out of the head, snapping off the bolt, breaking the mount, etc.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

weeks waiting for Suzuki parts (imagine my cousins surprise when he could not locate a chain and rear sprocket for a SV650

Interent shopping baby!!
Local dealers will claim parts are on backorder, will take a month or longer, etc. Go internet & you can have any part you need in 3 days or less.


Ordered sliders for my bike & the dealer called LP & verified they were in stock...claimed they would be at the dealership in 3 days...well that didnt happen. After almost 2 weeks I get the ole first week of July crap. Screw that, canceled the order & went internet. Got a better set of actual race quality sliders for a better price & only took 2 days.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bruce I live less than an hour from the Buell factory. Parts should be available. That said indeed one week is not un reasonable. I am just ticked off my ride let me down that way and could have killed me too boot. I am a very pro American kind of guy and I go out of my way to promote American products as well as buy them. Even if they happen to be more expensive. I expect Buell to make a bike that will not endanger my like due to the fact critical parts break. Yea riding a motorcycle is risky enough. I don't need to worry about mounts breaking, sheared bolts and such. This will not be tolorated. My bike has been in the shop a week already and it has not been touched. They don't get it today I am not going to be happy. That Triumph Speed triple is looking better everyday although I really belong on Americas sportbike.

Regards

Mike
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"supposedly not 1 owner has had a motor mount problem,"

So you are saying I'm lying about it?
You should know me better than that Dyna.

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, dont take it that way at all, its certainly not what I meant. Just saying that perhaps someone may have had an issue but took care of it themselves or sold the bike to someone else & you just havent heard of any problems.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But still if it was that common, you'd think it would've happened to me or any one of the guys that I ride with on their tube frame bikes?
I had about 7000 very hard miles, like 14 track days, lots of wheelies on the last X1 that I rode and other than one broken exhaust stud(a problem I am aware of) and a self destructing race muffler didn't have any problems with it. You saw me ride that bike on several occasions, was I babying it or was I riding the out of it? I would think, that if breaking motor mounts was something that happened a lot, it would've happened to me or at least someone that I sold a bike to and still had it.

Dave
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, you rode your X1 harder than I did mine yet mine blew up 3 times. Completely hit or miss to the issues with the tube frames, no rhyme or reason to any of it.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't Buell have a recall on the front motor mount back in the mid 90s? The problem with Buells is not bad mounts and bolts it is the paint shaker motor constantly putting undue stress on these componants. I love the torque of the paint shaker I just don't like what it does to everything bolted around it. My tail section is cracked as well around where it bolts up. Buell should cover that but, I have a feeling they will not. It was caused by the paint shaker. Oh well I guess you can't have everything. I mean my gas tanks rattles, my levers rattle, my mirrors rattle. Gotta love the paint shaker.

Regards

Mike
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those seeking to deride Buell need not post on this site. Mike you are over-reacting and making yourself miserable over a broken motorcycle. Please cease seeking to force the rest of us to join in your misery.

Life is too short to focus on the bad stuff.
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Curtyd
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I fully expect something on my R1 to break, & if & when it does I expect fast & courteous service."

YAMAHA and dealer service??? I am not intending to just "bust chops" here, but I have never heard anyone rave about excellent service support out of their YAMMIE dealers. In fact I heard their reputation to be exactly the opposite. Good news is the engineering and quality control will probably save the day in the long run, but that is coming out of Japan, not the American dealer here. Don't get your hopes up too high relying on them...
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont have my hopes up, already did that once before with the Buell dealers & didnt do me any good.


Blake, is it really over reacting to a busted fron motor mount on a bike with 9000 miles? Not looking to start a wave here or anything, but if Mike cant post the bad along with all the good, then whats the use? 2 sides to every story & unfortunately its not always sunshine & roses.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,

I am not after the fastest bike out there, I want one with a soul, one that has character and if it breaks - I will fix it.

I know you were kidding thats why I didn't take it personally.

Funny thing with typed communication you really can't see the body language that goes alone with it.

Why don't you ride that R1 over this way with Crusty and the boys in August - I am sure you will get here a couple days ahead of every one else. Hell you may not even need the boat just hit the loading ramp at 165++ stick a para-sail and jump across the gulf.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dont think my @ss could take it. The bikes fantastic but the seat is horribly uncomfortable after 125-150 miles. Corbin please please hurry up.

BTW, the wife has actually been after me for a trip up to Newfoundland. Wont happen this year tho.
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Koz5150
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it somewhat ironic to buy a practicly full race bike and then ask for a custom comfortable seat??? Maybe you should check into some forward controls too... ha ha

P.S. Dyna you should see the trike we had in the shop last week. Like the one below but black. It was wierd!

bike
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it somewhat ironic to buy a practicly full race bike and then ask for a custom comfortable seat???
Perhaps, but the rest of the bike is so comfy. Actually pretty good wind protection, my back feels great, no ache in the wrists, etc etc. Only the tush is complaining. Put a real seat on this bike & I could see it being a pretty damn good long haul machine.


I have seen a few of those things at poker runs....as far as I am concerned its a 3 wheeled car.
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Koz5150
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trust me, it looks, sounds, and drives like onw. It was also very uncomfortable. The seat was like sitting on a short parkbench. I also thought the headers would have had a little more bark, they must have some very restrictive baffles. The B&M shifter between the legs was kinda cool though. This one was driven by a shorter girl, I am sure it was set up to be comfortable for her.
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