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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you think it's a good thing; why? I kind of like it for it's funkiness factor, but it doesn't work nearly as well as a conventional arrangement, at least when compared to an XB.

Why is this supposed to be a good idea when Buell found a way to use a conventional shock on a bike with a shorter wheelbase when they realeased the new-gen bikes?

The only thing I really like about it is it's outrageousness and WoW factor, but I hate the lack of options we Tubers have with shock choices.
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Spooky
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I hate the lack of options we Tubers have with shock choices."

There is not a lack of shock choices at all............ your not looking hard enough.
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They needed the room for the oil tank, plus Erik believed that sticking the weight of the shock down low helped the mass centralization.

You're got a point though - not many have spent the time to make a good pull shock. I like my Penske, but it was a pricey addition. And the whole shebang was pretty much just reversed making the damping mechanisms less than optimal.

Of course I didn't see that many options for my SV that I'd want to spend $$ on either, so I guess it's not that different : )

Henrik
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Fuscat
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can tell you one thing I sincerely miss my white exposed spring shock. Dearly. Why, why?? Why did it have to go away to be "disposed of"?? I understand it was a health risk and issued to ensure my safety, but I ride a bike it's a risk. Think about it though not all of the shocks were defective. Just enough to warrant safety concern. My 97 shock never gave a single ounce of concern in the 15k+ miles on it. I hate the new one for its shear looks alone. I'm sure its a fine shock and will work fine.. But nothing was wrong with mine!! Erik can I have it back?? It was just sent to you back in Nov/Dec on recall. I will give back the horrible looking one!! I just want my white spring shock back. : (

And yes I wish I could aford one of the $400 plus replacements but I simply can't. I just don't like the new one not only on looks but it definitely feels Different. I am sure I could stand to dial it in and make it feel better. However I don't have the updated service material to adjust the new shock to fit me. I only have the service manuals from 96/97.

Short answer I used to like it, the factory setup atleast. Currently with the recall setup I do not.
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Andys
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The pull suspension really came from his bicycles, if I'm correct. Erik designed a rear suspension that would not squat when pedaled and it might be this "pull-type" rear suspension we have on the S1.

Brillant guy this Erik. I totally understand why he's been divorced three times.
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Three times! Yikes.

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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I totally understand why he's been divorced three times.

I thought it was 4, but hell who's counting?: D
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Cerbero
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i love the "wow" factor my buell generates... and i think the shock location is one of the reasons why.

as for the ugly canister showas... i hated mine too, then it started leaking (surprise surprise) so i replaced it with a works performance shock. it's beautiful chrome/polished aluminium with a black spring to match my bike!

now i've got extra "wow" and i couldn't be happier with the way it performs.
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Divorced 3+ times...Gosh, now I know why HDI bought Buell. They did it to save the company from the current and future Ex's. LOL
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Andys
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Erik's divorce rate is probably due to his inability to stop thinking about engineering stuff and work. It takes a toll on a marriage. I'm sure some of you guys out there understand this well.

I feel for Erik because a nice guy like that deserves to have a loving and understanding companion in his life. His genius just got in the way.
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Outrider
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Andys...I am twice divorced. That is the reason I found humor in the situation. You've been there and survived. You know the drill.
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Andys
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2004 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You've been there and survived. You know the drill.

Been there. Yes. Survived? Not sure yet.

As for the drill... I hate the f'ing drill!!
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Court
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We need this thread,right ?
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it gets back to the topic of shocks we do.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well, my Y2K MaDeuece rear suspension was an epiphany! I loved it!

of course, my previous ride was exactly 20 years old, and the technology displayed in cheap twin shocks hasn't kept pace with the best in class stuff ;-} (as my wife has been overheard to say, Stuff goes INTO his garage . . . stuff never leaves it!)

I'll likely replace the stocker shock this winter with the best I can afford . . . .it's getting pretty tired (that said, I don't often NEED better, but I sure will LIKE better!)

from an engineering point of view, there's no fault at all in the design -- if the backwards-operating shock wasn't as good as an equally-price normal one, it's simply due to lack of development spread over millions of units . .. one of the challenges is having a product from a small, innovative manufacturer, I think
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Caboose
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love mine...

hmmmmm,WTF?
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Grndskpr
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Het Cabose, i have 2 in the garage just like that one, Buell said my bike was to old and 2 many miles to deserve a goodwill
to bad for me
R
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i actually like the rear suspension on my Buells, the way they work, the way they look.

FB
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Tripper
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine works great. While I held onto my exposed springer as long as I could out of vanity, the new Short Showa is working better when pressed hard. Neither has ever led to any ill handling.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

An exploding shock. What a surprise.:-) Buell should goodwill every single one of them shocks made.

Regards

Mike
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My X1 is just fine with the new Buell shock. Nothing wrong with the old one (SRP equipped) until it sprung a huge leak at 7,500 miles.

Of interest, the first place I take any car I have purchased is the suspension shop and have it totally upgraded for the usual performance mods. Yet, that is the last thing on my mind when buying a motorcycle. Go figure...
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97s1
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I ever could get my exposed shock dialed in right I may like it but its to stiff of a ride for me. I'm 165lbs wet. Hopefully when I take the s1 in for the recall on the shock it'll ride better for me.
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing that I don't like about the old Buell shock is how difficult it is to adjust the preload. Needing three people and two factory tools to set up for a passenger is ridiculous.
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Smoke
Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

97s1, i'll trade you an updated shock for your exposed spring shock when you want to upgrade. i'm 173 full gear and it's just right. let me know and i'll send my extra to you to check out.
tim
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97s1
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Smoke, is it in good condition? The only problem I would think is if it started leaking then I wouldn't have the warranty to get replaced.
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

97,
i never installed it. i got 2 different parts lots from another buell guy. i've just been holding them for backup. they look like no leaking has taken place. i don't know anything about warranty, i always buy used and do my own work (at least disassy and assy). just let me know.
tim
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Tripp
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i had my shock replaced when it was recalled, love the wow factor, looks leave something to be desired so i spent approx. $70 at A.S.B and got the cf cover for it and it looks real nice now, i posted a story a few years back in the crashes and mishaps portion of the kv about when i installed the above mentioned cover(kinda forgot the shock was the bikes suspension, doh)!
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