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Smadd
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 09:56 am: |
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My 'ol Shoei never had a fogging problem, but my new HJC AC-10 sure does! Very comfortable helmet... lightweight... and plenty of vents (I never anticipated the fogging problem because of the number and appearance of good venting). I've tried a spray-on coating, and I've used the "breath deflector" that comes with the helmet. On clear days, of course there's no problem. But if it's a bit humid, foggy, or whatever, it's a real problem. Has anyone tried the Fog City inserts? Any other "tried and true" techniques? Your help is appreciated... with the price of gas, I'm using the Buell more and more for transportation... and I have to travel several miles through a "river valley" that's fogged in quite often, mornings and evenings. Thanx! Steve |
Jerry_haughton
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 10:15 am: |
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Steve, i have experience with the Fog City inserts. even here in Cali i won't ride without them, and they've saved my bacon on several occasions when otherwise i would have been riding with the shield partially open to prevent fogging. for best results they should be installed on a brand new shield. they are a little "delicate" to clean, still haven't found the best procedure, i just try to keep my hands off of them for the most part. they also impart a slight degree of "ghosting" at night (not sure how to describe it any better than that), but for me it's a tolerable trade-off for the fact that they totally eliminate fogging, even in the worst (cold, humid) conditions. i just bought a new Shoei and two new shields, and didn't hesitate for a second springing loose the extra $ to install two new Fog City's. hope this helps. FB |
Crusty
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:00 am: |
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I second Jerry's opinion. I ride year round in New England, and I love Fog City inserts. Humidity, cold, rain, snow - the Fog city lets me see clearly. They are easily scratched though, so use care when cleaning your faceshield. They are well worth the money. |
Smadd
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:55 am: |
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Thanks, guys... Fog City inserts it is! The night "ghosting" shouldn't be a problem... because I rarely ride at night around here. If you would see the number of fresh deer carcasses I see on a daily basis, you'd understand why!! I need some new shields anyway for other helmets I have... so I'll pick up a new one for the HJC and the inserts. I'm sure they'll see a lot of use! Thanx, again... Steve |
Dasxb9s
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 01:10 pm: |
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I had problems with fogging between the fog city and the face shield after a while... I don't know if it was due to how long it was in service, or maybe captured humidity when I installed it. If I were to do one again... I would try to find some place the humidity was VERY low to do the install to prevent capturing moist air between the two. Maybe it was a freak thing... maybe I did something wrong. Just my experience. But in any case... until it fogged between the two... it worked great. |
Chainsaw
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 02:34 pm: |
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Rain-X Anti Fog, available at auto part stores.. A couple of drops on a paper towel, rub onto the inside of the visor an voilia, fog free! One small bottle will last you years. |
Smadd
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:15 pm: |
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I was thinking about Rain-X... but I thought I read somewhere that it's not good for plastic. But maybe that wasn't the Rain-X "Anti Fog." Chainsaw, have you been using it for awhile? Any other comments? It certainly would be cheaper than the Fog-City insert. Not that I'm cheap , I just want to explore the options. LOL... but I'd better do it quickly, because I have a feeling tomorrow morning will be just as foggy! Thanx... Steve |
Socoken
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:49 pm: |
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I dont know cause ive never actually tried it on a helmet, but i know for diving masks, a thin coat of dish soap left to dry on the inside of the lens does the trick to kill fog. you have to redo it ever so often, but hey, its free. worth a shot in my opinion. |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:54 pm: |
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Quit breathing so damn hard; you pervert! |
Captainplanet
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:00 pm: |
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Fog City inserts work great. They have one now that gets darker or lighter depending on conditions. Haven't tried that one yet. |
Smadd
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:39 pm: |
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"Quit breathing so damn hard; you pervert!" Look.... it's a long ride to work... boring highway... one hour each way! I gotta occupy my mind, somehow!!! Dish soap? Free? I'll try it tonight! "Free"... the magic word! LOL Steve |
Socoken
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 06:34 pm: |
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just use a little water with it and rub it around with your fingers, let it dry on. like i said before, always worked great with diving masks. |
V2win
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 07:33 pm: |
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Fog City inserts MUST be installed VERY carefully. If your shield is the least bit dirty or moist before you install, be sure to clean and dry very well. Even then, they suck at night. Does anyone know what the snowmobile riders use. I heard that some use a heated visor. Dont know for sure. For what its worth. John (still trying to see clearly when the temp drops and the fog rolls in) |
Jerry_haughton
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 08:07 pm: |
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i wouldn't say they suck at night. fact is, when you install one you're looking thru two additional surfaces, and it's a given the Fog City insert isn't as optically clear (nor CAN it be, considering what it is) as a name-brand face shield. i mentioned the "ghosting" at night above, and it's as close as i can come to describing what it does to my night vision. i wish i didn't HAVE to look thru anything other than the shield, but the advantages of no more fogging around more than make up, in my opinion, for the effect the insert has on my night vision potential. another possible source of fogging AFTER installing a Fog City insert could be a fault somewhere in the seal around the perimeter of the insert, much the same way a double-pane house window can still sweat in the winter if the weatherstrip that provides the dead air space between the two panes of glass has been compromised. the inserts are worth every penny, in my opinion, but, as always, your peak torque may vary. FB |
Chainsaw
| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 08:28 pm: |
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Chainsaw, have you been using it for awhile About 2 years now, primarily in sub-freezing temps. Lasts 3-4 days of crappy weather per application. I haven't noticed any ill effects on my faceshields (3 shields, 2 helmets). About $4 a bottle. I originally bought it for use on my truck windows (didn't work worth a crap), got tired of having frost on the inside of my face shield and gave it a shot. I wish I would have started using it sooner. |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 05:58 am: |
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Another cheap fix I've been told about but never tried. Cut a potato in half & wipe the cut surface over the inside of the visor, leave to dry & polish with a soft cloth. I've never done it cos I end up cooking & eating the spuds. |
Smadd
| Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 08:59 am: |
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"just use a little water with it and rub it around with your fingers, let it dry on." LOL.... Now you tell me! I put quite a bit on with a cloth and let it dry. This morning was unusual... very little fog. So it wasn't a great test. When I came to stops though, I could keep my shield down and there was no fogging. BUT... I had so much soap on it, it was like looking through a rippled glass! I'm cleaning the soap off... then gonna try again... a little more carefully. After that, I might pick up a bottle of the Rain-X. At $4, it's not so much of a risk. If I'm not pleased with either of those two options... I'll spring for the new visor and Fog-City insert. Thanks for all the input! Steve edited by smadd on June 08, 2004 |
Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 09:20 am: |
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I haven't read the whole thread here, but I did run a fog city insert/liner on one helmet. At night I did get a not too offensive rainbow effect with lights from cars and street lights and such. Nothing major, more like just slightly 1960's nostalgic-ish. |
Smadd
| Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 10:08 am: |
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"At night I did get a not too offensive rainbow effect" Some of us, in our lifetime, have paid handsomely to achieve that very effect! |
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