| Author | Message | ||
     Crusty |
You guys need to get out and ride more. If someone wants to build a rigid framed chopper out of a Buell, what's wrong with that? I wouldn't do it, but not everyone rides for the same reasons I do. For that matter, most of the people on this board get different things out of riding than I do. That chopper IS "Different In Every Sense". As far as boycotting 2 Wheel Tuesday, that would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. How many motorcycle oriented TV programs are there? If its ratings drop, I'm sure that the NASCAR Channel(A.K.A. SPEED) would dump the show in favor of an hour of Darrel Waltrip discussing the preferred toilet tissue of NASCAR drivers or some equally fascinating aspect of overmarketing Stock Car Racing. | ||
| Doughnut |
Different folks, different strokes. So long as they don't come near mine it is all good. | ||
| Fuscat |
What no "Hall of Shame" award for mentioning the URL to thier website..? Tisk Tisk. | ||
| Buellkowski |
Redneck is serving as the "bottom-feeder" of our collective Buell fishtank. They're taking the leftover "food" ignored by the upper fish and trying to derive some energy from it. If we're coveting that "food" now, we'd better form a co-op, take Bradj's suggestion and dive to the bottom (Arkansas) to grab what we want. Otherwise the bottom-feeders will grow & multiply... | ||
| Bomber |
btw -- saw an ad lst night for a reality tv show based on following NASCAR drivers around away from the track . . . .short clip of a driver asking his wife "why do you always have to bug me all the time?" sheeesh . . ... . .. . yet another sign of the coming apocolypse . . .. . | ||
| Loki |
Arkansas? I thought RedNeckEng was located in South Carolina. Sheesh if they are in arkieland I am gonna be over there picking thru the leftovers...... | ||
| Seeeu911 |
lighten up will ya...crusty is right. buy em all up I don't care..makes the market price higher for those left....hmmm that makes mine even more rare and valuable. | ||
| Dueller |
I stand corrected.•••• apparently is SC and not Arkansas. I agree they're probably not going to leave us with a dearth of used tubers. Seems they started out doing the Buell/Sporty cannibalization and are now trying to move on to doing "full" sized customs. I've seen a similar custom with the sporty motor (don't know if it was Redneck Eng. but was a hardtail with inverted Buell forks) and it is almost like a 7/8 scale chopper...looks a wee bit odd sized. And I agree with the above poster that said you'll have 12-14K in one...seems more cost effective to buy a mid 90's full size custom that can be had for that price range. I'm still amazed at the number of "customs" now being built and sold...apparently demand is still strong but the bubble's gotta burst sometime. | ||
| Mikej |
The "bubble" is being driven by a few television shows. Once the show becomes a cartoon series on Saturday morning the fad will soon pass. Now, tell me honestly, how many of you can see a cartoon version of WestCoastChoppers on the horizon. Think about it, it's coming, trust me.  | ||
| Xb9er |
I definitely can see that coming. Picture Jesse James as a little punk kid on his bmx bike turned chopper with ape hangers in this season's new "WestCoastChopper Kids". He goes into his mom and dad's garage and is working on the beefed up chopper for his buddy, Little Shaq. There are laughs a-plenty as Lil' Jesse's dad finds out Jesse took the plasma cutter to his Buick's hood to make the gas tank for the Shaq's bicycle. Catch the zany WestCoastChopper Kids, Saturday mornings on ABC.  Mike. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
See what happens when a bunch of Yahoos get bored!!! Worst thing that happens around here when da boys get bored is ....................  Newfie Moose Hunting Rig | ||
| Fuscat |
Im just going to pour my gasoline to the fire here, but why is everybody always bashing the chopper stuff?? I'll probably get flamed for putting this out there but hell I like them, I like them alot! I enjoy all the shows. I think alot of the bikes are awesome looking. Sure its a different kind of motorcycle then the buells we all ride but so what?? You would think a group of motorcyclists who are so often outcast in about any bike group we are near whether its the sport bike guys not accepting our "harley" bikes or whether its the harley guys put off by the sportbike's we so closely resemble or it could be the metric bike crowd cause we ride american bikes, you would think that Buellers as a whole would be a little bit more tollerable of other types of bikes and their riders. I'm sorry but I have evolved into a "motorcyclists" I like all types of bikes. Some perticular bikes I do not like due to style or color but not because its different then what I ride. OCC & WCC & Borguette Bikes and hell redneckengineering and even MCWORX here in kansas city who work with alot of buell motors. They all make kick ••• choppers. If you don't like them don't watch the shows, don't buy the bikes. But get over it. ••••• on Ford" or ••••• on Chevy" •••• on bitching about what someone else likes that you don't. Get away from the computer and go ride what you got more often. Personally I like to think of it as a compliment that the motors in the bike I ride get used alot because they are already such a great motor. Atleast the old buells are being re-equiped. They could be rusting up in a bike bone yard some where. Like someone else said feel free to bust out your check books and buy up all the wrecked or trashed buells you can that way you can hoard them up and make sure nothing gets used by someone who isn't going OEM with it. Even if its not trashed if someone has to sell but no one is willing to buy guess what parts is the next option. You can all respond back with hatefull words or whatever you need to here but I am not responding back I just wanted to put in my two cents here. Seems to be a lot of petty ••• bitching and whining and moaning around this place lately. Take the previous advice and go for a ride you will feel better.. | ||
| Captainplanet |
I'm with Fuscat. I have no issue at all with someone making something else out of a Buell if that's what they want. For me, I love all motorcycles. | ||
| Mbsween |
Hear hear, just get out and ride, and drag as many people along that will go with you, regardless if they are on choppers, harleys, ducatis, triumphs, kawasakis, suzukis, laverdas, gileras, ariels, you get the idea. Its a small planet, the more 2 wheelers the better.. Crap and I thought I could get a used shock out of them, they say they sold all the spares. Anybody have any idea who bought them? edited by mbsween on May 04, 2004 | ||
| Buellkowski |
We all got a right to diss Buell choppers, and we all got a right to diss Buell chopper-dissers, and we all got a right to diss the dissers of Buell chopper-dissers. Next?  | ||
| Buellriderm2 |
It's funny to me that everyone bags on Jesse James all the time. As someone working in the motorcycle industry I can honestly say I look up to the guy as someone who's made themselves into an icon. All total WCC made almost $6.5 Million last year, not counting Jesse's endorsements and TV show money, $3 million of that was clothes - most of which went on the backs of guys riding stock Harleys, or even better yet, people without motorcycles at all - that's what you call capturing the public's imagination. Is he a sellout? Depends on how you define the term. If being a sellout is working all the angles and giving the public what it wants in order to make so much money that you have to start weighing it because counting it takes too much time, then hell yeah he is, and we all ought to be aspiring to the same goal. Because at the end of the day Jesse James is popular not just because he builds cool choppers, but because he's a cool MF'er, and people want to be like him. Put Jeff Bleustein (Chairman, CEO of H-D) on TV and I guarantee people aren't going to be moved to run out and buy a Harley, or a sticker for their truck, or a set of signature line tools, or an action figure. Same could be said of Erik Buell - an engineering genius no doubt, but not the most magnetic personality on the face of the earth. The smartest move H-D could ever make would be to bring the man in on just one bike, pay him whatever he asked for, and then watch their bottomline double as the FXSTJJ lines 'em up at H-D shops around the world. Think it isn't coming? Look at Honda's Cafe Racer to answer that one. It's only a matter of time before a major OEM is smart enough to tap into what this man's got and when they do I guarantee they become an instant level playing field competitor to Harley in the cruiser market. Just my two cents. So whine on about the proliferation of choppers in America - I'll be here turning my Jesse James wrenches with my CFL hat on, sipping from my OCC mug after I ride into work on my Redneck Buellie Chop.  Justin @ NRHS edited by buellriderm2 on May 04, 2004 | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Same could be said of Erik Buell...not the most magnetic personality on the face of the earth. words escape me Justin. | ||
| Southernmarine |
Somebody please explain something to me. HOW is this a Buell chopper? What parts from Buell do they use to classify it as a Buell chopper? A Flyscreen? Forks? edited by Southernmarine on May 04, 2004 | ||
| Rex |
I think it is cool that they are using the forks, wheels, motor, etc. on the chopper....Bob dron did a nice custom bike before anyone else using the buell wheels, forks, etc. with a big twin motor....looked good.....I like all kinds of motorcycles, dirt bikes, cruisers, mini bikes, three wheelers, quads, choppers, etc. I am just a bike nut...some I own, some I look at and appreciate, and others are okay, cause they are two wheelers and are out having fun....wouldn't turn down any motorcycle......rex | ||
| Anonymous |
Jerry, That must be my problem too! Oh well, only to have been born cool... | ||
| Dyna |
Come on now, how can you say this isnt a magnetic personality? Roger looks like he is having a good time  | ||
| Henrik |
Justin - you sure you met the right Erik Buell??  My impression is the exact opposite of yours. I can't think of anyone better to sell Buells than Erik himself. Sure he's not "Hey, Duuuude cool" (Thank God ), and most likely not as socially dysfunctional as OCC. But what better combination than genuine enthusiasm and genius in-depth knowledge of bikes *and* riding. Henrik | ||
| Josh_ |
>I can't think of anyone better to sell Buells than Erik himself. No kidding  | ||
| Xb9er |
I've watched Jesse James and his kind on TV many times and he is an entertaining persona. Comes off as a prick, but that is part of the charisma. But most any trained welder, if they wanted to, could put together a rigid frame, a motor and a couple wheels together and call it a chopper. And that is exactly what's happening now. You call that American creativity and ingenuity? Yes, but only because these guys came up with a pretty creative and ingenious way to take people's money. I don't care what bike it starts out as, a chopper is still less than the sum of its parts. They may be considered pieces of rolling art by some, but even that's kind of a stretch. I mean people blast paint out of their anus onto canvas or barf a rainbow on canvas and call it art too. To paraphrase a famous philosopher: You can polish a turd all you want, in the end what you've got is still a turd. I've also wondered why it is that when people get on the defensive here, they like to say "You need to go out and ride more," or "get away from the computer and go ride what you got more often"????? What's that got to do with anything?? Sorry, just my opinions. This thread is cracking me up. Go 2-Wheel Tuesday!! Mike. | ||
| Aesquire |
It's not choppers I dislike, it's things that don't work. Hardtails are dumb around here, (upstate NY) since our roads suck. Cycle World built a custom Low Rider for their trip to the 100th. Nicely done, Twin Cam B motor, good suspension. The kick only starting system seemed the only flaw. (The Bike Harley Ought To Make IMHO) They also had a S3 in their trip, ( saw in the group picture) though I didn't see a mention in the mag. I understand the angst of the anti Buell Chopper guys though. Like when I saw the trailer for "the Fast & the Furious" and yelled when the Charger crashes. Or when my buds swear at the "Dukes of Hazard". Anger at seeing art you love turned into a thing you don't. I hope Jesse enjoys his 15 minutes. Most of the "chop off" or "American Chopper" bikes I wouldn't keep if you gave them to me. Roger Bourghete's (?) frames seem good, if you need short. Indian Larry makes a nice old school chop, and Billy Lane don't know engines. ( I loved when he set his butt on fire, "I'll run the exhaust through the fender, nobody's ever done that" Duh! figure out why now? ) | ||
| Socoken |
hey newfie, those weapons on that rig arent real, are they? if so, ive got to ride that thing. that is one KILLER M2!!! for those who dont know, that is the M2 .50 cal machine gun behind the four wheeler, the most bad ••• weapon short of the 25mm bushmaster cannon and the MK19 40mm. that M2 rocks a Humvee sideways when fired from a turret. Cool ••••!!! there isnt an hour in a day that goes by that i dont think about how cool my Buell is and how great it would be to be lucky enough to meet that cool sonnavagun is that created it. my M.02 cents | ||
| Gearhead |
Some of you guys crack me up!! As I've posted before I'm also into street rods, muscle cars and customs. This is the same stuff I hear from them. "I can't believe you built a hot rod out of that! It was so nice, why didn't you restore it?" Ok, if it was so nice, why didn't you buy it and restore it!! How many Corvette engines and Jag rear ends have been robbed to build really trick street rods? Thousands!! Hey I loved my M2 but I traded it in to buy an XB12R, now it's been sold and of course I hope the guy enjoys it but if he takes it apart tomorrow to build a chopper out of it, oh well, as long as he's riding and riding a BUELL!! I had my fun with it and it just wasn't in the cards to keep it... Let's move on please!! | ||
| Court |
>>>but not the most magnetic personality on the face of the earth. That's an inaccurate statement. | ||
| 99x1 |
"But most any trained welder, if they wanted to, could put together a rigid frame, a motor and a couple wheels together and call it a chopper." As you watch these shows - think to yourself if you would actually ride one at 100 MPH. While your Buell has been computer modeled (attached is a picture of S1 frame under braking stress), the TV builders seem to cut frame notches to fit primary covers, drill holes in random places on the frame to run wiring, weld stuff to the frame without any caution as to work hardening or local stress, and seem to hammer everything to make it fit. There is seemingly no allowance for the massive vibration forces from the lack of suspension or the rigid mounted motor. But then, I can't remember the last time I actually saw a chopper on the road....  | ||
| Koz5150 |
Exactly... Show me some of the American Chopper bikes after 10,000 miles! Throw a couple of burnouts, a few wheelies, and don't forget a few moments at 115 mph. Can you imagine doing battletrax on the Liberty bike??? |
