| Author | Message | ||
     Bomber |
OK . . .. I've got all these vinyl records and cassettes . . . .. hunnerds of em . . . . I've also got a CD player (couple of them) I've also got computers (all windows machines), all off which claim they can record audio onto a CDr there's got to be a way I can lock up the records and tapes in a dark warm room with the computers, and wind up with CDs . . . .. . I don't need another hobby, I just want to listen to TRex on the CD player without having to buy yet another copy . . . . . . . thanks, all | ||
| Spiderman |
I belive you can get a CD recorder that can hook up to your tuner. Or some one here may be able to help you hook up your turn table to your PC? BTW where do you get your stylist's from? Mine is broke an I can't listen to my Zepplin | ||
| Josh_ |
Which kind of turntable do you have? "Phono" output or line-level? Easy way is to just plug the phono into the PC's soundcard and record the input into a WAV file. You can get fancy and run it through the sonic cleaners (Roxio used to come with one) to clean out the scratches and other noise, then use your burning software to make a music CD from the .WAVs. If your phono is "phono out" not line level out (99% are phono level) you will need a pre-amp/converter | ||
| Josh_ |
'Course now you got me all nostalgic for my ZZTop Afterburner (only have on vinyl) plus my dad's Three Dog Night, War, Chicago, Mother's of Invention... I wonder if my Akai table will hook up to my ultra-modern Denon surround amp... | ||
| Bomber |
phono out, as you suspected . . .. got an amp with a pre-out set of jacks . . . . .where would I start looking for inputs to the sound card (all that's easily visabile is a single channel mic input) . . .. . . . . stylus' available form radio shack (low end) and snobby high brow audio outlets | ||
| Fuscat |
Just a warning here if you have a lot that you are wanting to do this with you may want to consider the stand alone cd burning unit that plugs directly to the output of the turntable or cassette deck. Unless you have a pretty powerfull up to date computer and gigantic hard drive trying to record it all through your sound card on your PC is horrible. It is a tremendously slow and tedius process. The sound files are huge and 2 to 3 records can fill a common hard drive easily. In all honesty I have not yet found an easy way to do this. This situation is one of the reasons I bought into Minidisc format a few years ago. I can digitally record anything that makes a sound one way or another and play it right back in full quality. Not to mention the brand new just released this month Sony MD units now allow for digital upload from the MD unit to your PC via USB cable. So you could record your friends band in his garage and go home and plug in the usb cable and upload the songs to your PC and burn them onto a CDR in about 25 minutes.. Sorry got a little off track there. I just know when I tried doing a bunch of this kind of work I wanted to stab myself so I bought an MD and havnt looked back in quite a few years.. Just my .2's | ||
| Smkdm2 |
Most sound cards have a line in mic in and an audio out. Most standard cars are mini plugs. Line in lets you have a mic and other source at the same time. You'll prolly have to find some adapters. I've done from the headphone jack out to the mic or line in on my computer. I was not doing an entire collection, I was just compiling some of my uncles songs for him. It does take time and babysitting. You have to record each song to a seperate file so you can burn them as seperate tracks. It may not be bad if your just plucking favorite songs from different albums. edited by SmkdM2 on April 30, 2004 | ||
| Fullpower |
yeah MD is cool format, so why not use MD exclusive? can you find mobile MD players? | ||
| Bomber |
hmmmm . . .sounds like I'd be best served buying one of the boxes actually designed to do this kinda thing (go figure) . . .. best deal I've seen (but not hardly lookin) is about 3 bills for a cd burner that'll plug into my amp . . . .. . . anyone know of a better price? thanks, all -- I kinda stopped paying attention to this stuff a while ago, and really appreciate the backup | ||
| Impulse_101 |
As an audio professional I can vouch for the stand alone burners. We use Tascam stuff at the station and I can vouch for it's sound quality and ease of use. JT | ||
| Court |
JT...what board would you reccomend for home mixing? I'm looking at some Bose 802 or a similar JBL Professional setup. I'm going to be working with 2 groups doing some studio work in the coming months and want to be able to take raw stuff and do some mix down stuff. I'm not happy with the existing mix I've been sent on 3 songs. | ||
| Stealthxb |
Court... go with mackie http://www.mackie.com/ real solid stuff, and industry standard | ||
| Rocketman |
I've a stand alone Philips CDR 570 mini audio CD recorder. As far as I'm aware Philips pretty much invented this technology, thus they produce a number of models. They phono right into your amp, analog or digital, or optical lead if you prefer. Whatever format you run through your amp the CDR will record it onto CD. You use CDR-W audio discs. There's a host of cool features to enhance your recording and you can record from the comfort of your favourite armchair by using the remote control. About £200 should get you up and recording. Rocket | ||
| Impulse_101 |
Court, I have a Mackie 2408. It's a good board but you probably don't need a 24 input 8 bus for that kind of thing. Mackie's are the standard for small mixing consoles and have been for at least 10 years now. They are well made and are generally reliable under most conditions. I've burned up two of them at work, but those conditions were fairly extreme. I've mixed everything from CD's to a Denver Broncos Radio Broadcast from Green Bay on my Mackie. It takes a lot of firepower to get a really good mix. An FMR RNC (Really Nice Compressor) or two will help a lot. I've been doing music semi-pro or professionally now for 20 years and I've never actually had a mix that I was 100% satisfied with. If you have the money you get a lot of board from Yamaha with their 01V96. It's expensive but it has enough processing power to do more than my entire rack. I will be upgrading to one for my home studio soon since I do my professional work an an Yamaha 02R96. One question. Isn't the Bose 802 a PA? What's the project about, I'd be glad to offer opinions. JT | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Wow, What a can of worms! There is SO much good audio suff available today for dirt cheap it is really amazing. A plain PC with an average sound card has better recordng capability than the equipment used to record Abby Road. For ripping records, I use Roxio EZ Cd Creator. It has preset filters for removing hiss, clicks and pops. Does a real decent pretty hands off job. It will also break a record into individual songs as long as the between track breaks are somewhat consistant. As was mentioned ealier, you will need a bit of hard drive space. I have a separate 80g drive for doing audio stuff. As far as digital recording on a PC, lots of stuff there also. I think the Mac still rules for that though. A minimum config for live recording should probably be 8 channels in minimum. Then you have to consider the software. One of the gold standards is Digidesign's ProTools. Lots of $$ but very good. Lots of plug ins, etc. Most every thing you hear these days has had Protools used somewhere in the mix. | ||
| Blublak |
Yo, Impulse.. If I ever need you.. I'll holla! Need someone that won't look at my 118-410 Eden split with a 215 Sunn Col. (live rig from when I was playing still) Dave Eden 500w stereo, 300w Sunn (slaved), danced through a GSP21Pro and a Q-Verb2 like I was some sort of mad man.. especially when I ask for a second direct box. Damn, some guys shouldn't be doin' this kind of work. I need a new job.. I need a new band.. .. Aw hell, at least I have a couple of great bikes to ride.. (phew).. Later. | ||
| Henrik |
Bomber; I'd guess you'd get the best recordings using a PC (or Mac) with a decent board and some relative low cost "cleaning" software. As Josh said you can get rid of a lot of the hiss and pops and such before burning to CD. But it will take time - and some practice to get the "cleaning" just right. You used to be able to get a free "beginners" version of ProTools - may still be available?? Of course on the Mac, now there is Garage Band. Henrik | ||
| Josh_ |
Help from: Turtle Beach (sound card manufacturer) CNN someone else Roxio includes CD Spin Doctor still to clean up the hiss and crackle. I can't find the website now, but CD Spin Doctor is (was) avail seperate in several flavors of quality. A CD burner is typically $20 after rebate. A DVD burner/CD burner is $86 shipped a 120GB drive was $59 at Office Max last week. Roxio is $90 if you purchase the whole program with no rebates or upgrades. $366 a few weeks ago landed a friend a new Dell system w/ 80GB hard drive 256 MB RAM and CD Burner (no monitor) Then all you need is time. | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Henrik, You are correct! There is still a free version still avaiable of ProTools. Its for 98 & ME and Mac OS 8.6 & OS 9. http://www.protools.com/ Then go to the support section and select downloads to find. | ||
| Impulse_101 |
Bublak, My guitar system is about as complex as you could ask for short of my old 24 space touring rack system. Now I just use two heads, a rack mounted switching system and some nice effects routed through a switching system and line mixer. Nothing scares me anymore when it comes to large rigs. I've used more gear than just about anyone I know. JT | ||
| Soundman |
Impulse, What are you running --a Bradshaw rig or what? I got tired of hauling 2 Calzones around plus cabs. I'm also getting frickin fat and lazy. I also got tired of sending my switcher to Bob just to get optocouplers replaced. I miss the variety of the rack gear but now all I take to a gig is an old RE501 and a Dumble and I don't have any loop soak. "Hey man, do you guys know freebird?" Hey Blublak, Anybody that bitches about you having another send better be out of inputs. I'd be thankful that a musician is giving me another source to mix. The old colloseums break up nice too. | ||
| Bomber |
yikes . . . . didn't mean to soak up so much bandwidth . . . . on the other hand, it does seem to have brought some sound folks outa the woodwork . . . .. after looking at many (phew) options, I've decided to get a box to plug into the amp . . . .like I wrote, I'm not looking for a new hobby (and with the amount of analog music containment vessles I've got around here, it would be more of a full time job), and th box will let me plug it all in and walk away . . . . Rocket -- you're right, of course, Philips did invent the tech (or, they brought it to market first, which is just as important . . . . invention ain't easy, but rationaling it to the point where you acn share it with folks is even less easy {a lesson learned by working at Bell Labs long ago}) sincere thanks from a guy that stopped paying attention so long ago that his Mac had tubes {this, for Henrik} and, Court, everyone know that the Esquire is the way to go . . . .lacking that a good old Telecaster don't know Freebird, but do know WHipping Post ;-} | ||
| Impulse_101 |
No bradshaw here. I use the DMC stuff, the GCX switcher and the System Mix plus line mixer. The effects are a Lexicon MPX-1 and an older Roland SDE-3000. I'll never be without the Roland, if it's good enough for Steve Vai and EVH, it's good enough for me. For amps I use a Guytron GT-100 that was customized by the builder and either a Dual Rectifier or a 1962 Fender Bassman head. Depending on the gig. Sometimes I just use the Guytron, it's my main amp. I have an endorsement with EMG pickups, but I'd use them anyway. My entire rig fits into the back of my truck with just two heads, two cabs and an eight space SKB. But that will change because I'm adding some additional firepower in the near future. JT | ||
| Soundman |
Rock on Bomber! Soundman..... | ||
| Fuscat |
Fullpower yup, quite a few manufacturers make MD units for automobiles. I have a kenwood. I had been complete MD exclusive until my Nissan got stolen. When I bought a new ford truck I found out by removing the factory stereo I would void my warranty. So it kind of screwed me over as I have to use cd & MD both now. :/ | ||
| Bomber |
wilco, sounder! | ||
| Soundman |
Impulse, Youre a true gear head. I still have a SDE that I use for the PA. Had it since new - first delay with a tap tempo that I can remember. Do you remember the old EMG 58's - I have an OLD Hamer with a set. 62 Bassman....Setzer would dig it. I'll have to check out the Guytron- no dealers that I know of here in Memphis. Keep Rockin Soundman.... | ||
| Impulse_101 |
The 58 was the noisier precursor to the 85. EMG will actually make it for you as a custom shop version. I had them make a special system for my Carvin 7 string that is pretty wicked as well, it't the only one in the world. (Ain't I special) The Guytron is the best amp I've ever played. (for my hands and to my ears) It's really the first truly new design in years. It's got a pair of EL84's running full power as part of the preamp, they run into a dummy load just before the signal hits the power tubes. It's a boutique head and it's built more solidly than my Dual Recto and I've never had a Boogie fail in over 10 years, not even a tube. It's an amazing channel switcher. The A channel does a great Vox/Matchless sound but can still do Fender clean as well. The lead channel goes from Mashall to Dumble to Boogie, though it's brighter than the average Boogie. The new GT-100 F/V head is one of the most versitle amps I've ever seen and worth every cent of the $3600 price. Damned near nothing compared to a Dumble! (I got mine used. The only dealer that I know of is Make n' Music in Chicago. But Guy may have more on his website at www.guytron.com My Bassman is the exact same head that Setzer uses. It's kind of the secret Fender, it has a few tricks up it's sleeve that would suprise a lot of people. Mine was my Fathers and it's one of the two pieces of his gear that I keep as a momento of him. The other is him 1985 P-Bass which was restored by Dennis Rauen in Milwaukee. My children will have them when I pass. As for being a gear geek... I have a total of 12 guitars, 6 amps, a nice drum kit, a few synths, my studio gear, multiple speaker cabinets and a lot of other stuff related to the studio. So I plead guilty. JT | ||
| Soundman |
I know exactly what you mean about the Bassman. When I was working in a music store years back, a customer traded in a 62 with the original "sealed" 212 cab on a Rivera. I ultimately I wound up with the rig for cost=350.00. I also have a 65 Pro Reverb that my dad's so I know what you mean about passing it on. Ahem... you've never had a Boogie fail. Ever had a mk 4 simul, we had a few (only 4) in our shop all from the same month. I will say mesa stepped up with warranties super quick. They are still built like tanks. Guilty as charged, now go to your room and write "I don't need more gear" 500 times. | ||
| Soundman |
Sorry to take up this thread with this stuff. Thanks for the link to Guytron, the sound files sound great. I swear I saw one of those amps at the Handy awards last week. I did'nt pay much attention to it because the size of the backline at the after awards jam session was huge. BTW, the Dumble Singer wasn't that expensive. Im like the 5th owner and I got it for a grand. They are not that special really- 1 good sound and that's it. I really need to save up and pick out a boutique amp. Keep rockin Soundman... |
