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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now that I have a patch (it really is just a patch : )) of back yard, I'm looking for a small propane grill/BBQ.

With the variety on the board, I'm sure some of you can tell me what to look for in a small/midsize, 2 - 3 burner grill.

Brands, build quality, build materials, burner material, rocks or no rocks, grate material and construction, necessary/useful extras etc. etc.

Thanks

Henrik
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik,

If you have a Home Depot or a Lowes in your area, they have many fine examples on display that you can kick the wheels on.

The last one I bought was a Webber and it has been going strong for over 10 years now.

Out of all the neat attachments they have for em these days, I would strongly suggest a rotisserie attachment. Great for prime rib and whole chicken! : )

edited by pdxs3t on May 02, 2004
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Paulinoz
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I'm looking for a small propane grill/BBQ."
Congratulations on your small patch of dirt as to cooking aparatus KISS Keep it simple s....
Take 1 x 44 gallon fuell drum get some s.... freindly construction worker type to cut it in half with a gas axe, this is a good time to leave the area and get your next requirement, one flat man hole cover. Place fire in drum, put manhole cover on top of drum and money you saved from buying BBQ spend on some good meat and enjoy.
I would go with the flat plate type no rocks saves putting out the fires.
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Southernmarine
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check this site out. Some of your local propane dealers may carry these. Serious, it is the last and only grill you will ever buy.

Phoenix Grill

My Dad give me one and I love the thing to death.



edited by SouthernMarine on May 02, 2004
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Torqd
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lookin for a new grill myself...

Top 10 Gas Grills under $500.00
http://bbq.about.com/cs/toppicks/tp/aatp042403.htm

Top 10 Gas Grills between $500 and $1,500
http://bbq.about.com/cs/toppicks/tp/aatp060402.htm


My parents have a Ducane....they range from 500-1500 on ebay...Probably one of the best grill co's out there...
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Andys
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Figures a city boy wouldn't know how to find a BBQ. I'm surprised he knows what a "patch of back yard" is.

Enjoy the new life Henrik.
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the recommendations guys.

Jim: I'll be hitting Home Depot tonight anyway (electrical stuff) and will be sure to swing by the Garden section.

Robert; Ahhhh, tempting. Those Phoenix grills are *nice* - but pricey

Frank; I saw those pages, they seem to match the Consumer Reports article somewhat. Take a look at this BBQ BBS as well. Lots of static, but some good info as well.

Andy; Thanks : )

Henrik
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik:

I've had good luck with the Char-Broil grills that Home Depot sells. I've got a stainless steel one at home that has 3 burners, I paid around $450 for it 3 years ago and I've been very happy with it. I bought a "cheapy" Char-Broil for the ranchito, it's a two-burner model that sold for under $200. It's already fed a couple packs of hungry Buellers, and it sees a lot of weekend use.

Make sure that whatever grill you buy uses standard size burners and grill grates--those items are kind of "consumable" and will need replacing every couple or three years. I guess that's why I buy the Char-Broil stuff from Home Depot--I expect I'll be able to get replacement parts when I need them.

r-t
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing to keep in mind Henrik, once you have looked at the webers at Home Depot, write down the model number, then head over to your friendly Costco/Sam's Club. Costco prefered. The last one I bought was $100 different between Costco and Home Depot.
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

R-T; stainless sounds good. Should make it last a bit longer? Easy access to spares is a good thing also. Thanks for bringing that up.

Wycked; I'll make sure to comparison-shop. A buck is a buck - right ; )

Henrik
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah, come on, do it old school, build it with brick:
http://www.bobvila.com/Search/?q=brick+barbeque
http://www.brickinfo.org/html/CBSphotos.html
http://www.brickinfo.org/pdfs/barbeque_plan.pdf
; )
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn straight Henrik, specially a buck that size : D
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik, I bought the stainless as much for appearance as anything. In my experience, the cast aluminum shells on even the cheapest BBQ's out there are just about indestructible, just keep putting new burners and grills in 'em and they'll last forever, or at least until you get to wanting a new one!

Can't say the same thing about those cute little push-button piezo-electric sparkers, though, they haven't lasted well for me.

Wycked brings up a good point though, I didn't comparison shop, I just bought what Home Depot had on sale.

r-t
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Andys
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey! He's only got a "small patch of backyard." Cut him a break.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paulinoz - Funny stuff. I started continuously accidentally spelling Fuel "fuell" after I got the 12R as well : ). I always wondered if anyone else did that.
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Paulinoz
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You mean it is not spelt Fuell !!!!
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Opto
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeh, I caught myself doing that too!
Paul, you forgot to tell Henrik to put some holes in the side of the drum. Any progress on the 140mph project?
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doesn't anybody use charcoal anymore? The grills are cheaper, and the food tastes better. Why go outside to cook, if the food tastes the same as if I broiled it in the kitchen?
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paul; thanks for the idea, but you know as well as I that your proposed production model requires 1) construction workers foolish enough to start the job and 2) plenty of space around said workers to prevent collateral damage, should things go poof : D

Take a look; does this look like a good idea??

oil drum cutting

A few more just because I found them:

Team Elves

Team Elves

Team Elves

Team Elves

Henrik
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Charcoal, even priced at $9.00 a bag in NYC, is still the way to go. Give me charcoal and a quart of gasoline ANYDAY!
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court; you can have charcoal, but no gasoline for you ...

I like the purist idea of charcoal, but for convenience gas is just so much easier to deal with = I'll be more likely to actually use the grill : ) "Know Thyself" and all that.

Henrik
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't listen to that nasty man, Henrik. He's been standing in a strong electric field and it's obviously affected his mind.

Is charcoal really $9.00 in NY?? And darn near a buck's worth of gas to start it? I prefer propane at $20.00 for a bottle that'll last me several months, plus allow me to turn the fire off when I'm done with it.

And, in reference to the photo posted above, I think allowing Mssrs. Canfield and Rogers to be anywhere near an operable gas hatchet is at the very least a serious error in judgment, and is probably (or should be, anyway) a grave violation of OSHA safety regs...

r-t
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Davegess
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GAsoline, Court I am ashamed gasoline tale too long. You need to use the method developed by the Purdue engineering prof. (unfortunatly the university took the web page down)

Use a pound of liquid oxegen, that reduces 30 pounds of charcoal to 3 pounds of perfectly lite charcola in about 30 seconds. A little tough on the grill however.

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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mssrs. Canfield and Rogers to be anywhere near an operable gas hatchet

not to mention Capt. Pete and Peter - all around bad idea : D

Henrik
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Mssrs. Canfield and Rogers to be anywhere near an operable gas hatchet

The more I, as a Profession Safety (ASSE) guy think about that, the more I am willing to pay to ensure it never crosses paths with my resume'.

I am unequivocally convinced that Peter lured my, my looking so lost, into showing off my dated skills with a cutting torch.

The work in the power plants has polarized me eh?

Thing....you anywhere near an HEB? I am dying for chips here.

Court
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court: I'll send all you want, but you've gotta promise not to heat 'em with acetylene...

How're you fixed for salsa? Can't eat tortilla chips without salsa.

r-t

Polarized...yeah, I'm sure that's accurate. In fact, I'm positive!
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court with gasoline
Now there's a frightening thought
Recall the chestnuts?
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Paulinoz
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter leans on the cylinders watching, I role another smoke watching, (National past time down here watching others work). You have a southern fisherman showing a NYC type how it works.
That was a fun time.
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Aaron
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did mention to you guys that I used to store race fuel in that drum, didn't I?
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No problem Aaron - they burned vent holes in the drum before they started cutting : D

Henrik
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Ocbueller
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron,
I'm sure you have some leftover cylinders and other Buell related stuff that could be welded into the worlds first V-twin BBQ. Hit the N20 button for well done.
SteveH
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Paulinoz
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I did mention to you guys that I used to store race fuel in that drum, didn't I"
You told Peter and me but I think that info failed to get passed on to the mad men trying to use the gas axe.
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Phillyblast
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC Aaron you mentioned that as you were carefully and slowly walking away : )
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Arbalest
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik, after years of rebuilding lesser grills, I finally decided to buy a three burner Webber. It was the best money I ever spent. If I won the lottery, I would get a Viking, but the Webber is the next best best thing. Good luck.
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Mike - as of right now, I'm looking at either Weber or the Home D version of the Vermont Castings grills. Both very nice and with good feedback from owners.

Deciding on which one at this point is just a luxury "problem" which will provide many a good excuse for yet another Home D trip ... as if I needed an excuse these days : )

Henrik
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