| Author | Message | ||
     S1wmike |
Ted Kennedy to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. I have a very good friend who both his parents are interned there. His father was twice awarded the Bronze Star and was buried with full Military Honors. Knowing what I know of Ted Kennedy's life this is an insult to every service man interned at Arlington | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Not a real big fan of this decision. Odd that they would chose to honor Kennedy by burying him with individuals who died defending the Constitution when he persistently had very little regard for the Constitution. | ||
| P_squared |
Arlington Cemetery spokesman Dave Foster said Ted Kennedy was eligible in two ways. Because he served in the U.S. Army decades ago, Kennedy was eligible for his cremated remains to be placed in an urn at Arlington. But as a senator he was eligible to be buried there. Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/26/kennedy -eligible-buried-alongside-brothers-arlington/ It's the family's choice since he is eligible. I can't say I like it, but I can't oppose it, nor will I let it tarnish my memories of Arlington and those interred there either. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I think they should bury him in a 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 at the bottom of the Poucha Pond Inlet. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
that would be a great insult to all of those who had died serving there country with honor. the guy wasn't even man enough to go get help when he drove his car into the water. they said she was found 10 hrs later. the article they wrote up on him on msn also said that he got thrown out of harvard for getting someone to take his spanish final for him. he never had any ethics even at an early age. (Message edited by nevrenuf on August 26, 2009) | ||
| Alchemy |
I think he may already have a few family members buried there. There used to be an eternal flame burning above one of them. | ||
| Elsinore74 |
I can't say I like it, but I can't oppose it, nor will I let it tarnish my memories of Arlington and those interred there either. +1 on that, Sir. | ||
| Elsinore74 |
Not changing the subject, but anyone in the DC/Northern VA area around Easter should consider attending the Sunrise service at the Arlington National Cemetery Amphitheater. Very nice. Recommend walking back to parking area after the service vs. riding the courtesy bus. Not a deeply spiritual sort myself, but it still leaves me humbled, and profoundly grateful for the sacrifices of so many. | ||
| Jstfrfun |
IMO the senate entitles themselves to too much, Arlington should be military only. Ted was not that man. | ||
| P_squared |
Eligibility for Interment (Ground Burial) The persons specified below are eligible for ground burial in Arlington National Cemetery… G) Any former member of the Armed Forces who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions: 1) An elective office of the U.S. Government 2) Office of the Chief Justice of the United States or of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. 3) An office listed, at the time the person held the position, in 5 USC 5312 or 5313 (Levels I and II of the Executive Schedule). 4)The chief of a mission who was at any time during his/her tenure classified in Class I under the provisions of Section 411, Act of 13 August 1946, 60 Stat. 1002, as amended (22 USC 866) or as listed in State Department memorandum dated March 21, 1988. Source: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/funeral_informati on/guide.interment.html Like it or not, he's eligible for burial there, and the way I read the rules, it's not specific to just the Senate. | ||
| Ducbsa |
From http://www.nndb.com/people/623/000023554/ Who knows if really true. "Kennedy earned C grades at the private Milton Academy, but was admitted to Harvard as a "legacy" -- his father and older brothers had attended there, so the younger and dimmer Kennedy's admission was virtually assured. While attending, he was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England, pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. Kennedy was assigned to Paris, never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged." | ||
| Moxnix |
Ironic that a man who caused so much grief and harm with his creation and support of legislation and policy at odds with the "good of our country" (IMO), let alone the girl's death, is to be so honored. He gave us immigration legislation years ago, claiming it would not bring in masses. Teddy's legacy is somewhat tragic. For us, anyway. Yes, I am aware that good manners suggests we not speak ill of the dead. There is an exception to every rule. | ||
| Cataract2 |
I have no words to express how angered and insulted I am over this. | ||
| Moxnix |
"Kennedy earned C grades at the private Milton Academy, but was admitted to Harvard as a "legacy" The cream of American society: rich and thick. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
I'm really not surprised anymore about anything of political nature in the ways of the "me first,me everything" upper crust snooty crowd. I can only imagine some would want to see him lying in state (lie in state?) in the East room of the capital. Personally, I'd throw him in a post hole...... head first and call it a day. Noble crematorium in Georgia or Burr Oak Cemetery in Alsip, Ill come to mind as fitting........../ | ||
| Cowboy |
Damn it looks like we have sank to a new LOW. | ||
| Davegess |
He was widely admired on both sides of the aisle as one of the most effect legislator we hve ever had. Without him things like Medicare and the civil rights act would not exist. He had issue when he was young, and how many of us did not do some stupid stuff? Let's not disrespect the dead. He is every bit as entitled to it as his brothers were and as anyone who served in the military or Congress. His miltary service is no more or less than G.W. Bush pulled off to avoid Vietnam. Of course if you all feel the rules should not be followed because you disagreed with him... | ||
| Chainsaw |
Let's not disrespect the dead. I would tend to agree...although it can be difficult to hold ones tongue whilst he is being praised so widely and lavishly. | ||
| P_squared |
Dave, I'll agree to his eligibility to be buried there, as I've already stated. Doesn’t mean I have to like it, but I won’t oppose it either. “Rules are rules and everyone should have to abide by the same rules.” As for the rest of your statements, let's just say I'm not ready to praise his "accomplishments," nor do I feel a need to respect him in death. The reason for that is quite simple; I view the man as a traitor. I don’t respect traitors or terrorists. Your sideswipe at Bush is a little "factually challenged." Jr. may have gotten special consideration for going into the TX ANG during Vietnam, but he actually did volunteer to fight there as a member of the TX ANG. Some interesting reading on this topic: http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/content/2009/08/25/ a-lost-fact-in-the-rathergate-mess-part-1/ | ||
| Xl1200r |
To respect someone in death who didn't earn my respect in life doesn't seem very respectful to myself. But that's just me. I will say that the man did have strong convictions and did all he could to stand by them, as ill-directed as some feel they have been - he gets a nod from me for that. | ||
| Davegess |
IMHO the country is a better place because he served in the Senate. But them I'm a liberal. | ||
| P_squared |
I respect your opinion Dave. And I respect why you have that opinion. I don't intend to be "mean" and I agree with you that he's eligible for burial in Arlington. To those who REALLY don't like him being buried there, stop & think for a minute of what unintended consequences could be introduced by attemtping to change the rules. He's eligible. He did spend time in service to the nation. Don't let it detract from the respect those interred in Arlington deserve from all of us. | ||
| Davegess |
P_ that is exactly right. I am sure there are some buried there whom I would think not worthy but so be it. It does not detract from the specialness of it. I was jsut there last month and it is very moving. | ||
| Moxnix |
Let's not disrespect the dead. You're right. I was remiss. Now I shall go back to my usual quantum of sin by disrespecting the living. | ||
| P_squared |
Buried a friend there while I was in the USMC and I used to walk there at lunchtime when I worked in Arlington. You are correct, it is a very moving place. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Kennedy was just a host to the parasites of politics. It's not like he dreamed up the good stuff that passed. If the ideas didn't go thru him,the parasites would have found another host.RIP anyways.... |
