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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know of a 250 Ninja racing class, where I could any info or where they run?
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Rubberdown
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've rented one for a couple of rounds from rentmyninja.com

Had a ball. WERA has a class, ESS, for them.

Some race have full grids in the class, others not so much. It picking up.

It's all about cornerspeed and momentum.

Lots of info here:

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=198385
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CCS and WERA are the most likely. AFM might still have a Ninja 250 cup - but that's out West - as is the Ninja 250 series at Willow Springs.

http://www.ccsforum.com

http://forums.13x.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=12
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm... doesn't look like there's much going on with them in the north east.

Does anyone know of a cheap class to start racing in at like Monticello, Watkins Glen, Pocono or New England Speedway?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So since she is not riding it.... you are gonna go race it >? great way to get a track bike !
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd have to buy that one from her - I'd either race that one, or get one of the new ones.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe these guys can help
http://www.ninja250.org/
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the rules in the race organizations in your area. CCS and WERA are nation-wide with regional contests. There ARE other local clubs.

I'd bet on the lightweight twins - SV and XB9 (pretty stock) are usually good bets.

Lightweight Twins or Vintage lightweights are also kinda cheapies. (EX500, GS500 can be bought CHEAP)

Rules vary by organization so see where the class lines are drawn before buying.

I'm kinda partial to Twins classes. FAR FEWER Squids trying to race, smaller crowds and more FUN.

The I4 600 classes are just bloodbaths until you get out of Novice.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would think that a 250 class would do really well right now, if not all the time.

Bikes are cheap, low hp not too hard tires, parts available all over and cheap.

If there was a 250 class that basically allowed no mods but maybe better tires and brakes, I'd be all over it as a entry into racing.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Ninja 250 classes are largely spec classes with MINIMAL mods allowed. Suspension, brakes, some time brake lines, lighter chain drive, not much more.

Some of the faster tracks can be hard on the lower HP bikes because they're spinning so freaking FAST for so long.
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was pretty heavy into nonja250.org before I got my Buell, because, well, I thought I was getting a 250! Badwebbers should enjoy that forum... the software is probably older than what we use here!

~SM
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter, I agree. Racing is just tough around here as there are no tracks inside of 2 hours away, and the ones that are reasonably close just seem really hard to figure out what races there and when. I don't even know where to start with local for a more local club.

The 250 classes I've found (again, mostly on the west coast, other tracks around the country do them but all a full days drive for me) don't allow any internal engine mods. Brake pads and lines can be changed, and most seem to run slip on exhaust systems as well. They're claiming 30hp at the wheel, which is about what they're rated for at the crank.

I'd love to do a lightweight twin - pick up an XB9 and have at it, but they're harder on tires and more expensive to buy in most cases.

We'll see. This was just an off-the-cuff idea. Sort of depends on if there's anything around me I could do on a tight budget.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For anyone that might know offhand, the tracks closest to me (ALbany, NY) that I'm aware of are:
Limerock - 1:30 hrs
Monticello - 2:00 hrs
Pocono - 3:30 hrs
Loudon, NH - 4:00 hrs
Watkins Glen - 4:00 hrs

I'm not even sure what any of these places have for regular motorcycle events...
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Ulynut
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lime Rock - no motorcycles

Monticello - private club. no motorcycle racing. only track days for now.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, it looks like New Hampshire is the best place near me for bikes at the moment. Two choices are USCRA and running the Formula CB class (they run basically stock Honda CB350 and CB360s), or CCS and running in the Lightweight Sportbike class (I'd probably pick up an XB or SV in that case).
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin from rentmyninja.com was talking with me friday at Barber and was telling me that CCS doesn't have a specific class that the 250 would be competitive. it would run in ultralightweight with sv's. Wera does have the specicic E Superstock with a bunch of competitors. 13xforums.com has a multipage thread on setup for the 250. have fun.
tim
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was watching the 250 MotoGP yesterday and thinking how cool it would be to run a new 250 Ninja in some kind of amateur racing class.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I talked to a guy from USCRA, and he suggested starting out in Formula RD, which runs pretty much stock Yamaha RD400s.

Still don't know if the budget can handle it, but looking into it.
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