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4cammer
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Schwantz Grades DMG--Gives Them A D

http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/09081334ondmg. htm

"They have left the series in a very vulnerable position. There hasn't been any strong direction from them, at all, to work with the manufacturers, other than Buell. Both the Honda factory effort and the Kawasaki factory effort have pulled-out. Those trucks don't come to the track, many of those people lost their jobs. Sure, they've given Buell a big rescue, a big opportunity, but at what cost? Yamaha is still in the series in a big way, as is Suzuki, but will they be next season?"
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When World Superbike went to the spec tire rule, all the Japanese factories pulled out, leaving Ducati to carry the torch. All the pundits bitched. But Ducati had an entire year to develop their race bikes, and eventually, the Japs came slinking back, and they've had their hands full trying to beat the Ducks. They weren't too successful until this year with Spies. If they pull out of AMA, it could be a golden opportunity for Buell. Especially with Erik's values and racing spirit. The racing this year in Daytona Sport Bike is the closest and best of any series. If all those riders were on Buells, then it wouldn't take too long until the best racers on the planet were Buell Riders.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I think it's the best racing I've seen in the AMA since Pro Thunder back in the day. I don't think Buell needed rescuing either...they've just never had really positive press or success on such a scale in racing.

Even the customers I deal with daily in the shop have said good things about Buell's success...and we aren't a Buell dealer, and these aren't Buell owners. Nobody I've spoken to has mentioned Buell having an unfair advantage. People know only one Buell/rider combination has been in the running. If they were sweeping the field it'd be a different story.

There were a couple big factories that were non-participants in Formula Extreme, too, weren't there?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonderful country . . . he's free to get off his ass and do better.

This is the most interest motorcycle racing has seen in the United States since Scotty Parker, Chris Carr and Jay Springsteen were battling . . .

When you get this many people whining and Buell the premier topic of everything from Roadracing World to the Vespa Riders Association . . .you got it happening.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Schwantz has more class then that. Superfictionplanet has only Buell to talk about in every artical they write. They are the national inquirer of motorcycle racing.

(Message edited by bads1 on August 13, 2009)

(Message edited by bads1 on August 13, 2009)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Schwantz one of the commentators that I hear on speed channel? I'd give him a barely passing grade myself... I know I am supposed to respect the name, but my objective opinion is that it was just another annoying and not particularly insightful announcer...
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana - don't go insulting the Enquirer by comparing it to Stuporwipe Plant It
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Svh
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Schwantz is not one of the commentators. Freddie Spencer started the year and then Scott Russell took over for him. They both aren't good at it but Pridmore did a race and he was much better.

Schwantz has been super critical of DMG all year for safety reasons so I have no doubt that is from him.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the most interest motorcycle racing has seen in the United States since Scotty Parker, Chris Carr and Jay Springsteen were battling . . .
These are the good ol days!
Well said Court
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry Steve I just hate the SuperEnquirer.LOL
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another lame story on superhatebuellbikeplanet with spies.
Clueless as usual watching one race and all his jap buddies sit and giggle like little girls around a camp fire.



Q You've mentioned DMG a couple of times. For a world-caliber rider, or a rider looking to make his mark on the World Championship, you absolutely left America at the right time. You couldn't have timed that any more perfectly.


A
"I saw that, and I just turned the TV off. Because the four-cylinders, they need some nitrous buttons, they need a Sneaky Pete system, to get some power on the straightaway."
It's definitely been a big change for a lot of people. I just ... I can't even make the right comments I want to make about it. But it would be one of those things, I don't even know if I'd be wanting to race, if I was back here, with just some of the things I've seen. It just makes it harder for the young guys to come up and get out of there, the way I know that people are on the world scale (are) looking at it. The pace car incident that I heard about, that almost put a few people in the hospital, was - that was pretty ridiculous.

I actually watched, the first race I've watched, really, all year, was the Topeka Sport Bike race. I don't know if it's called Sport Bike or Top Bike whatever, but the one that Eslick and Cardenas are in. I watched Cardenas ride that thing, and this is nothing against - it's nothing against Buell, and it's nothing against Danny (Eslick), but it's definitely against regulations and rules and what should be legal and shouldn't be. I watched Cardenas come flying into the last corner, get the better of the two drives, and Danny was 20 bike-lengths back, and halfway down the straight, Martin looked back trying to judge which way he was going to go so he could block him.

It'd be safe to say that 15 bike-lengths, for sure, were being made up on that one straightaway by the Buell. Not the back straightaway, but just the front straightaway. If that race is 22 laps, or however many laps it was, and you're gaining 15 bikes a straightaway, that's pretty much a free straightaway by the end of the race, and how many seconds is that? And that's just the front straightaway. It was crazy. It was 15 to 20 bike-lengths every time they hit the front straightaway, and that's just that part of the track. If you add that up over a race distance, you should be winning the race by over ten seconds. It's nuts.

Q It's a mockery.

A I saw that, and I just turned the TV off. Because the four-cylinders, they need some nitrous buttons, they need a Sneaky Pete system, to get some power on the straightaway. Man, I don't know. But again, Danny, they let it to be legal, and he's riding it. And he's doing what anybody else would do. But just the way the rules are, that bike should not be in that class. You've got the same bike, with a couple little mods, the same displacement, that's competitive against 1000s. So go figure.

To be continued
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Blake
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So we lost Honda and Kawasaki, but in return got Buell, Aprilia, and Ducati and kept Yamaha and Suzuki?

AWESOME!!! WAY TO GO DMG!!!

I hope Kawasaki can return soon. Wait, who's ramrodding the Monster Energy Kawasaki effort? Hmmmm. Kevin not be truthful.
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