| Author | Message | ||
     Fresnobuell |
IMHO, Hacking has been respectful lately of Eslick because Danny has been riding as good as anyone in DSB (incl. the great Hacking himself.) I also believe Hacking (and I am sure lots of others in the paddock) believed early on that the Buell just too strong and any bozo could win on it. After numerous races, it has been proven the bike is not winning the races, the rider has been. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
No one has answered my question. How much of a CC advantage would you spot me in Sportbike racing a super single? | ||
| Xl1200r |
One million CCs | ||
| Slaughter |
WHAT super single? What motor? What chassis? What internals? (cams, pistons, rods, valves, springs, crank, component weights and finish) What wheels? What suspension? What ECM/controls? That'll help in the request for "spotting" a displacement advantage | ||
| Bott |
And no one has answered why Barnes', Higbee's, Knapp's and Sipp's 1125's aren't pulling a full straightaway advantage in a 22 lap race. | ||
| Slaughter |
Pauly, It is obvious that you don't understand - haven't you been paying attention? AMA/DMG rules only favor Eslick. | ||
| Bott |
LoL, it would sure seem that way, according to these full of holes "theories". Its a conspiracy I tell ya, a conspiracy! Eslick has one a' them Sneaky Pete systems onboard, and a robotic computer that actually does the riding for him.  | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"And no one has answered why Barnes', Higbee's, Knapp's and Sipp's 1125's aren't pulling a full straightaway advantage in a 22 lap race." I don't know about Knapp, but Higbee and Barnes are pushing 40 and doesn't Sipp run a Yamaha in Sportbike? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I don't know about Knapp, but Higbee and Barnes are pushing 40 and doesn't Sipp run a Yamaha in Sportbike? The Buell Millenium Falcon would surely transcend any limitations due to age. | ||
| Bads1 |
I don't know about Knapp, but Higbee and Barnes are pushing 40 and doesn't Sipp run a Yamaha in Sportbike? Dude... Higbee is only 29 years old. Barnes is 40. But age has nothing to do with it. | ||
| Bott |
It'd be safe to say that 15 bike-lengths, for sure, were being made up on that one straightaway by the Buell. Not the back straightaway, but just the front straightaway. If that race is 22 laps, or however many laps it was, and you're gaining 15 bikes a straightaway, that's pretty much a free straightaway by the end of the race, and how many seconds is that? And that's just the front straightaway. It was crazy. It was 15 to 20 bike-lengths every time they hit the front straightaway, and that's just that part of the track. If you add that up over a race distance, you should be winning the race by over ten seconds. It's nuts. An 80 year old should be able to win on them, according to some.Even "pushing 40" just before social security checks start coming. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Dude... Higbee is only 29 years old. Barnes is 40. But age has nothing to do with it." Ama has his birthday as 1970. And this is a sport isn't it? Age has alot to do with it, Barnes is 40 and racing for RMR right? Same sponsor and bike as Eslick? I'd bet if you spoke with him, he'd tell you he isn't the same as a guy half his age. | ||
| Bott |
Mladin is 37. Pegram 36. Pushing 40 slows them down? | ||
| Bads1 |
http://www.buell.com/en_us/racing/racer-profiles/p rofiles/shawn-higbee.asp And no Barnes has said he is in as good of shape as he ever has been. Hell mladin is 38. Miguel Duhamel is 42. Some of the best riders in the world are not Spring chickens. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Isn't McGuinness 37 or something and just won the Superbike Isle of Man TT race? | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"And no Barnes has said he is in as good of shape as he ever has been." I say that too, but being on the same bike as Eslick and not even being int he top 10 in points says otherwise. Dude asked for a possible reason why Barnes isn't doing as well as Eslick..I gave a reason. Bott....4 of the top 5 AMA Sportbike guys are under 28. Hacking is the exception. | ||
| Bads1 |
Even Pridmore,McWilliams,Chris Carr (Dirt Track),the list still goes on. Point being these guys are still top 5 finishers. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Mark Martin is kicking ass in Nascar an he's 50, maybe we should get him an 1125R? | ||
| Bads1 |
I agree... Barnes though isn't meshing well with the 1125R. Another is the 1/4 of the season he was recovering from injury preseason. Bott....4 of the top 5 AMA Sportbike guys are under 28. Hacking is the exception Your looking at just one class. Superbike there is older riders. | ||
| Bads1 |
Zemke age 34 | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Your looking at just one class. Superbike there is older riders." Is Eslick running SuperBike? No. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Zemke age 34" 9th. So actually there's only 2 or 3 guys over 30 in the top 10? (Message edited by Buellinachinashop on August 13, 2009) | ||
| Bott |
And I'm asking, since its been said The BUELL , *not the rider*, has an unfair advantage-how can it be explained as to why only one RIDER is winning. So are we finally now agreeing that it's the indian, not the arrow, or what? Some utterly ridiculous statements are being made, and Danny Eslick is not being given credit for riding the balls off his bike. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"So are we finally now agreeing that it's the indian, not the arrow, or what?" I agree that he is riding his ass off, but I also would say he wouldn't be tied for #1 without the 1125r. My opinion. (Message edited by Buellinachinashop on August 13, 2009) | ||
| Bads1 |
John we are talking racing in general. Take mladin put him in that class and he clean house. Your not making sense here. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"John we are talking racing in general." No, we weren't, you are. We were talking about rider comparisons to Eslick. Eslick alone and why other riders of Buell 1125Rs weren't doing as well as him. Period. You brought up Superbike. Take Spies and put him on an 1125R....how would he do? He'd kick the crap out of Eslick. Just my opinion. | ||
| Bads1 |
Eslick and the Buell just make for a great combo. Knapp has proven to do very well on it as well. Point is though John is age really isn't a factor for many riders. Some of them older and have factory rides. These guys are in shape its what they do. | ||
| Bott |
so,it's still the bike, but only HIS 1125. ok.  | ||
| Bads1 |
Yes we are... I'm not the only one here that has dropped other racers names. Ya make me dizzy man. You better go fishing man get back on track.lol | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Eslick and the Buell just make for a great combo." BINGO. we agree. Bott, put Eslick on a Yamaha 600, is he winning? He's never won an AMA race before he saddled up on a Buellhas he?? Now he's won 4 or 5 races in his first year (and the 1125rs first year)? Sure looks like a good arrow for that indian. |
