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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/
WASHINGTON (CNN) – The White House is stepping up its efforts to promote health care reform with the launch of a new Web initiative that officials say is designed to combat misinformation about the issue.

Citing what it calls "a troubling trend" of "wild rumors and scare tactics," the White House Monday announced the launch of http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/, a new Web page which "focuses on what reform really means for you and your family" and "debunks some common myths along the way,"




Interesting Headline...

Palin urges restraint at town hall meetings

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/10/pa lin-urges-restraint-at-town-hall-meetings/
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, I have an idea. Why not post up the ACTUAL bill?


I don't need to be spoon fed BS by Obama's shills.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Forget what the conservative pundits hash out everyday and ponder this:

Is medicare efficient?
Is social security efficient?
Is public education doing a good job?
Is the stimulus package keeping unemployment below 9%
Will cap and trade boost our economy?
How is healthcare for our veterans?

Seriously, this shouldnt even be a debate.


Beck also made a comment about taking a step back. People are mad and scared and it looks like the union strong arms and community organizers are rising to the challenge. It could be an ugly month.
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is simply amazing how much this administration is doing to push this bill through. I'm not really sure why they are even bothering coming to the American public in the town hall forum when they have already decided how they are going to vote on it.
They could have simply pushed this bill through as they did the Omnibus Spending Bill, and we could have fought it out in courts. They had the power to do it, but simply failed to take advantage of the opportunity.
Truly the only thing they are doing, Representatives, is dividing the country even more than it already is and stirring up civil unrest. It's almost like thats part of the master plan. (provoke outrage from at least half of the public by use of some of the comments and actions that the leaders are taking, instigating turmoil within some of the town hall meetings by use of (union?) "security guards" and attempting to place their supporters in the front of the room) If these conditions continue very long across the nation, I'm not sure someone isn't going to do something else stupid like they did in St. Louis.
According to the language used by Pelosi today, I am Un-American, part of the astro-turf group, organized by insurance companies. I intend to go to the Health Care event taking place this weekend in my district with my dad, nobody called me and asked me to go, nobody has fed me talking points and staged questions to holler out. I'm going as an American, worried that the country as we know it is in great risk of becoming a nation lost in time.
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the bill is up, HR 3200, I've been reading on that thing for 2 days now at least 12 hours each day.

Oh, and I took the opportunity to copy and past the 1017 page bill and send it to my Congressman and also to Flag@Whitehouse.Gov with quotes of "myths" and where to find the facts as written in the bill.

Anyday now the black helicopter is gonna take me away.

(Message edited by deadduck on August 11, 2009)
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And for any of our liberal friends on the board who haven't read in the bill how the Healthcare Committee is set up, you may want to, but put yourself in the frame of mind that the Republicans are holding ultimate power, and lets see how comfortable you are with that. I know I'm not comfortable giving the President under the flag of either party, the ultimate power to appoint realistically everyone that sits on the board.

pages 30 & 31, section 123
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The "Czar" of Healthcare, appointed by the President, accountable to no one, would be in charge of running 1/7th of our nation's economy.

Now if there were a nation with an economy 1/7th of the US's, selected not elected, and accountable to no one, we'd have a name for it.

Dictator.
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

crap, I forgot about the czar of healthcare, so that would mean that the president appoints all 20 of the people responsible for determining the type and premium payments that are allowable under the healthcare plan. Setting rules and determining taxes on companies that don't comply to "thier standards" which is still unclear to me.

Two topics that have yet to find much about so far: Standards of healthcare set, and premium payments (a dollar value)
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