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     P_squared |
Interesting little read I had this a.m. from an Op-ed in '95. The message still holds true: All 100 percent of the power of the federal government is invested solely in 545 individual human beings. That's all. Of 260 million Americans, only 545 of them wield 100 percent of the power of the federal government. That's 435 members of the U.S. House, 100 senators, one president and nine Supreme Court justices. Anything involving government that is wrong is 100 percent their fault. Congress is the originator of all government problems and is also the only remedy available. That's why, of course, politicians go to such extraordinary lengths and employ world-class sophistry to make you think they are not responsible. Anytime a congressman pretends to be outraged by something a federal bureaucrat does, he is in fact engaging in one big massive con job. No federal employee can act at all except to enforce laws passed by Congress and to employ procedures authorized by Congress either explicitly or implicitly. Partisans on both sides like to blame presidents for deficits, but all deficits are congressional deficits. The president may, by custom, recommend a budget, but it carries no legal weight. Only Congress is authorized by the Constitution to authorize and appropriate and to levy taxes. That's what the federal budget consists of: expenditures authorized, funds appropriated and taxes levied. Both Democrats and Republicans mislead the public. For 40 years Democrats had majorities and could have at any time balanced the budget if they had chosen to do so. Republicans now have majorities and could, if they choose, pass a balanced budget this year. Every president, Democrat or Republican, could have vetoed appropriations bills that did not make up a balanced budget. Every president could have recommended a balanced budget. None has done either. Let's vote the bums out, shall we? | ||
| Reindog |
The DNC is now accusing ordinary Americans of being a "mob". These are people who disagree with the Socialist policies of Congress and the White House. I saw the video. Mostly a bunch of grey haired oldsters. Hardly a rabble rousing bunch. Americans are increasingly opening their eyes and don't like what they see. Change has come, indeed. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/04/dn c-hammers-republican-backed-mob-rule/ | ||
| Deadduck |
My email to flag@whitehouse.gov Dear Whitehouse.gov watchdog group All that I have seen on the internet against the current form of the health bill HR3200 has been truthful in its reporting. The only mis information and lies are only coming from the current administration and the Democratic leaders in the house and senate because they know that their constituents are too lazy to take the time to read the bill and understand the confusing legislation as written. I'll almost guarantee that no one in the current administration or in congress on the left side of the aisle have bothered reading this garbage, but instead pick key little points and spin them to an Obama loving news media for them to deliver to the masses. It scares me to think that we have so many idiots living in this great land that believe something without verifying the facts themselves.  I will be waiting for ACORN to come in the black helicopters now. If I don't show up for Buelltoberfest, yall will know what happened (Message edited by deadduck on August 05, 2009) | ||
| Bott |
so, lets get this straight-- the President has said he will see this legislation pass WITH or WITHOUT the the Republican party backing. so.....the millions of citizens who voted in-, and are REPRESENTED by Republican REPRESENTATIVES....actually have NO say in these policies and amendments. Taxation without HEARD representation  | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
What do you mean "ever wanted to be"? All this Brit living in France & riding Buells stuff is just a cover, in reality I'm an agent of FIST the Federal Institute of Secret Trollers. Buellgrrrlll, is one of my best agents & Court is my main troubleshooter, we have files on all of you, we're just giving you enough rope..... | ||
| Gregtonn |
...Any new law passed should cause one existing law to be abrogated. A "conservation of law" law... I have often proposed the same thing but my proposal has been to abrogate 2 laws for every one enacted. We have enough useless laws to keep the two for one ratio going for decades. G | ||
| Edgydrifter |
Yes, funny thing, isn't it? You have a vote, count the results and the side with the most wins. | ||
| Reindog |
Edgy, Please read the US Constitution as that is only a partially accurate statement. I take from your statement that you never voiced an opinion during the eight years of the Bush administration? | ||
| Edgydrifter |
Reindog: Voiced an opinion? Sure, plenty! Complained that I wasn't being represented when the "other side" railroaded something through? No. That's the way the cookie crumbles. A sufficiently motivated/outraged public gets to correct such things during the next elections. | ||
| Reindog |
Gotta respectfully disagree with you. The current administration and Congress are attempting to enact MONSTER programs that can never be undone. Waiting to dissent and persuade our elected representatives simply can not wait. Arguing about it in townhall meetings, bulletin boards, etc can actually persuade people that they made a colossal mistake in electing Obama. Opinions can be measured NOW and elected representatives will tend to change their behavior NOW in order to save their skins for the next election. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
It's getting comical. | ||
| Bott |
That's the way the cookie crumbles. That works for snack time,not Government. Lying down for 4 year periods is certainly not the answer. | ||
| Edgydrifter |
Reindog & Bott: I absolutely agree that you need to speak out if you disagree with what the government is doing. Sometimes it gets results, but even if it doesn't it's worth doing for its own sake. I was merely arguing that politics is rarely fair, and that there isn't anything inherently wrong with one party ramming something past another dissenting party if they've got the votes to do it. | ||
| Teddagreek |
I get emails by both sides... This came from the president today... TED -- This is the moment our movement was built for. For one month, the fight for health insurance reform leaves the backrooms of Washington, D.C., and returns to communities across America. Throughout August, members of Congress are back home, where the hands they shake and the voices they hear will not belong to lobbyists, but to people like you. Home is where we're strongest. We didn't win last year's election together at a committee hearing in D.C. We won it on the doorsteps and the phone lines, at the softball games and the town meetings, and in every part of this great country where people gather to talk about what matters most. And if you're willing to step up once again, that's exactly where we're going to win this historic campaign for the guaranteed, affordable health insurance that every American deserves. There are those who profit from the status quo, or see this debate as a political game, and they will stop at nothing to block reform. They are filling the airwaves and the internet with outrageous falsehoods to scare people into opposing change. And some people, not surprisingly, are getting pretty nervous. So we've got to get out there, fight lies with truth, and set the record straight. That's why Organizing for America is putting together thousands of events this month where you can reach out to neighbors, show your support, and make certain your members of Congress know that you're counting on them to act. But these canvasses, town halls, and gatherings only make a difference if you turn up to knock on doors, share your views, and show your support. So here's what I need from you: Can you sign up to attend an event near you? In politics, there's a rule that says when you ask people to get involved, always tell them it'll be easy. Well, let's be honest here: Passing comprehensive health insurance reform will not be easy. Every President since Harry Truman has talked about it, and the most powerful and experienced lobbyists in Washington stand in the way. But every day we don't act, Americans watch their premiums rise three times faster than wages, small businesses and families are pushed towards bankruptcy, and 14,000 people lose their coverage entirely. The cost of inaction is simply too much for the people of this nation to bear. So yes, fixing this crisis will not be easy. Our opponents will attack us every day for daring to try. It will require time, and hard work, and there will be days when we don't know if we have anything more to give. But there comes a moment when we all have to choose between doing what's easy, and doing what's right. This is one of those times. And moments like this are what this movement was built for. So, are you ready? Please RSVP for an event in your community to build support for health insurance reform: http://my.barackobama.com/AugustAttend Let's seize this moment and win this historic victory for our economy, our health and our families. Thank you, President Barack Obama | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
They are filling the airwaves and the internet with outrageous falsehoods to scare people into opposing change. In psychological terms, that's called projection. The Obama administration HAS to lie to the American People because the truth is so unpalatable that NO ONE would support it. | ||
| Moxnix |
Sounds like a distress signal from Obama to his lemmings. I bet it works. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I bet none of them will be wearing Brooks Brothers. I guess they aren't used to activist citizens bathing, wearing deodorant, shaving, and wearing clothes that didn't come from Goodwill. Conservative activists protest part time while taking a break from their job. Liberal activist protest full time because it IS their job. Gibbs Blasts "Brooks Brothers Brigade" Disruption Of Dems' Town Hall Events By Eric Kleefeld - August 4, 2009, 11:49AM The White House is now taking a hard line against the Tea-Party organized disruptions of Democrats' town hall meetings, the Washington Times reports, with press secretary Robert Gibbs referring to it this morning as "the Brook Brothers Brigade in Florida in 2000," "Astro Turf" and "manufactured anger." The first two questions in the following transcript are from a separate reporter, with all successive questions from the Washington Times: Q: Are you concerned at what appears to be well-orchestrated protesting of health care reform at town halls as derailing your message? GIBBS: NO, I get asked every day about the myriad of things that could be derailing our message. I would point out that I don't know what all those guys were doing, what were they called, the Brooks Brothers Brigade in Florida in 2000, appear to have rented a similar bus and are appearing together at town hall meetings throughout the country Q: They seem to be pretty widespread. GIBBS: I seem to see some commonality in who pops up in some of these things. Q: Like individuals? GIBBS: Yeah. Q: Really? GIBBS: Yeah. Q: Can you discuss names or .... GIBBS: I don't have names but I think you can see quite a bit of similarity between who shows up where. ... Q: Robert, if these town halls are even being influenced by, whatever, a cabal or individuals, how problematic is that for you guys to try to your message out? Even if the premise that it is unfair is correct, it's still going to shape the way these town halls are viewed throughout the country. GIBBS: Well, you know, look, I hope people will take a jaundiced eye to what is clearly the Astro Turf nature of so-called grassroots lobbying ... Q: The grassroots what? GIBBS: The Astro Turf nature of grassroots lobbying, which is largely the term for, you know, this is manufactured anger. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
If political parties other than the Democrats don't make significant gains in 2010, I fear there will be no stopping this juggernaut to tyranny. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I think there will be significant "buyer's remorse" voters in 2010. That's why there is such a rush to get agenda items passed. | ||
| Moxnix |
Odd that more folk are taking a harder look at his past statements, Chi Town politics, and such lately. Not many politicians pass any stink test, but some tote more garbage than others. (Message edited by moxnix on August 05, 2009) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
"that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom— and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. " poor Abe was wrong. It is dying, withering and suffocating under its own idea of 'care' Nationalize means of production, regulate dissemination, centralize facilities, dictate prices, create a state based delivery agencies, control the media, mandate quotas and ques....squash, litigate, kill any dissent. Hegel, Marx, Lenin and Trotsky would all be very proud. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
But we can't call Obama a Marxist. Go figure. | ||
| Gsilvernale |
Not all of the blame can be placed on the shoulders of the president. The congress makes the laws and passes the budgets. Right now, we have a bunch of spenders (both sides) in office, and Barack has not figured out how to be the foil. It's going to get a lot worse - before it gets better. It will probably require some form of a revolution - hopefully a constitutional convention will be enough - to clean up Washington. Term limits, and a maximum size for a bill (30 pages). The bills being pushed are too big to properly handle, and too much crap gets thrown in to them. Congress could fix the Bill size right now. They just have to police themselves. Instead of tackling everybody elses problems, it's time that they clean up their own house. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The healthcare bill wasn't written by Congress. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
The funny thing I keep thinking about is obamas campaign for change. Like it or not his presidency I hope will be a wake up call to those who vote on whos popular on "the view" or who puff diddy endorsed. Id rather have an abrupt decline of our freedoms rather than a steady peck. This is where the American citizen will awaken and true change will begin. Change we will upon our representatives. | ||
| Smoke |
laws, once enacted, rarely are repealed but end up modified to be more encompassing. don't let this healthcare issue pass. the a**holes haven't even read the bill. i'm for a new election system-lottery appointment to every office-one term limit-citizens only-no benefits! at least that way we could more likely have a better representation across the board and they will take the money back to the community with them. generally,anyone that tries to get into office is doing it for their benefit not your benefit. JMO tim | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Its Marxism pure and simple For this to work (and it wont) All patients would have to be proven eligible for care based on national guidelines prior to care. Any patients in care, not meeting national guidelines, their assets will have to be signed over to the state to be paid for their opted out care. Non citizens will be refused coverage. Units of health will be assigned and allocated, members that exceed that number will have their assets seized and tiered to the state for payment. Welcome to the new Soviet State of America.... Lenin never wanted to wait for capitalism to fail to get to the 'utopia'... Funny how 100 years later, we will have become them. (funny, sad and pathetic, not ha-ha) Hmm, who knew that the state planned economics courses I took in Marxism would ever see a domestic implementation. | ||
| Reindog |
Press Secretary Gibbs is in denial right now. "We are not collecting names on emails". Right. Nixon didn't collect names either. | ||
| Reindog |
From the White House Site: "These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov." CASUAL CONVERSATION! The White House wants others to report CASUAL CONVERSATION? Yikes! This is beginning to look like the Nixon Administration. Obama is paranoid and has the thinnest skin for criticism that I have seen in a long time. What the heck is wrong with this administration? Obama's days of power are numbered. We have to fight this president until he has lost popular support. The American People have been deceived and they are awakening. Any Badwebber brave enough to admit that they made a mistake in voting for the Big O? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Flat tax it. Get rid of the separate deductions for Medicare, Medicaid, Social security, make it one United Health Care Adm, put it under a 'Czar' to make ya feel better. Eleminate the duplications of those agencies staffs, budgets, facilities, and responsibilities. Legislatures have no more business being in healthcare field than they do in the automobile industry. Look at the boon doggle that cash for clunkers is. Three weeks and they have already spent through 4 Billion dollars?!?! You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman BHO You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow |
