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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was originally posted on KZrider




TUESDAY JULY 21, 2009 Last modified: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:20 PM CDT. A motorcyclist was lucky to avoid serious injury from an accident in which he was rear-ended by an automobile on South Main Street in Jefferson Thursday. (JOHN HART/Daily Times)
Motorcyclist survives rough rear-end crash
By Steve Sharp of the Daily Times staff
JEFFERSON - Jefferson police today marveled at the luck of a Fort Atkinson motorcyclist who not only survived, but walked away from, a rough rear-end collision at 4:37 p.m. Thursday in downtown Jefferson.

According to Jefferson Police Department Lt. Dale Lutz, Gary A. Amaral, 35, of Fort Atkinson, was northbound in the 200 block of S. Main St., near the BP gas station, when a pickup truck operated by Fredeslindo Garcia-Ornelas, 37, of Jefferson, immediately in front of him, stopped for traffic. With both vehicles at a standstill, a third vehicle, operated by Amy S. Neitzel, 21, of Ixonia, plowed into the rear of the Amaral cycle, pitching Amaral into the bed of Garcia-Ornelas' truck.
“The guy is lucky,” Lutz said of Amaral, adding that if the same contact would have taken place farther out in the county, where posted speeds are higher, law enforcement would likely have been handling Amaral's fatality.

Lutz said that, after interviewing Neitzel, it was determined she may have been attempting to avoid being hit by another car she said was approaching her from Dodge Street when she accelerated into Amaral's cycle.

“We're not sure what she was trying to do, because she was so shook up after the accident,” Lutz said, noting Neitzel was cited for inattentive driving. “We asked her about texting and phoning and she said when she got to the intersection (with Dodge Street) she thought another vehicle was not going to stop and that's when she hit the cycle.”

Amaral was cited for operating after revocation and the Jefferson EMS transported him to an unlisted area hospital for further treatment after he complained of neck and back pain.

“(Amaral) actually walked over to a bench on the sidewalk after the crash and sat down,” Lutz said. “When I arrived I thought we had a fatality on our hands, but it turned out all right. He was very lucky.”
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Evidently the thought that you might be rearended in your car is sufficient grounds to consciously run over a biker.

Lucky Guy.
Be careful guys and keep the shiny side up.
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Oddball
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Poor Magna, rest in peace.
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

been there


and I done that


It took will of my being not to beat the guy to death with my helmet...

And not because he hit me but because of what he said.
"I didn't notice that you were stopping because I was admiring your bike so much."
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Mattwhite
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I managed to get rear-ended without any damage once. At that light I actually watched the car behind me stop like I we all know we should, but we don't always do. I just happened to check the mirror while waiting for the green again and had the thought "Wow, she's really.." then I got pushed forward.
It was a civic, so the bumper hit below the center of my wheel. I imagine a taller vehicle would have pushed me down instead of forward. I got off the bike and took a look at the tire. It looked OK. The civic driver looked like she expected me to kill her - that may have had something to do with the way I was looking at her. I decided the best thing to do was ride away instead of trying to talk.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's how the low got totaled, being rear ended by some young girl. sad enough that she didn't notice the bike but she didn't even notice the cars in front of the bike. luckily my daughter got away with some scarring and road rash. no broken bones and she at least had her full face on.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's often not easy to do, but one thing they preach in the MSF courses is to leave yourself an "escape route". DON'T come to a stop in traffic ~1' away centered on the bumper of the vehicle in front of you. If there's a clear median or bike lane try to have the bike lined up so all you've got to do is GO and you'll be out of the way. WATCH your rear view mirrors for these kinds of morons when you're approaching a stop.

Like I said, often not easy to do, but a good thing to practice.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys are making me feel lots better about violating the law by putting the light from hell on the back of the Ulysses.

Scary stuff.
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great news that the guy was lucky enough to walk away.

I always stop as far to the right as I can at lights & stop signs, on right side of the right "tire lane". I keep one eye on the mirror too so I can see what's coming up behind, in case I need to scoot out of the way. Plus I always leave excessive following distance in front of me, usually in opposite proportion to the distance I'm being followed.

Don't forget that the center of the lane (between the tire tracks) is where the cages leave their leaking fluids, especially at intersections where they can sit longer. Those spots are slippery!

Court, I've often thought about putting a 100 watt halogen under the tail light to increase following distances, but I doubt it would work. I've never had a tailgater back off when given "hints" like a brake tap or slowing waaaay down (these things only ever done in car, by the way), they just get closer. I've found the best approach just to increase my following distance to allow for their reaction time plus mine.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you look at the Mini van you can see where I was at in the lane.

I am always in an are to 'escape' but when he is going 40 and I am slowing down to stop with traffic for a left turning vehicle and going about 5mph about to check my mirrors...

LOL

The van had to be towed away HAHAHA
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I'm sitting at a light, one eye is always on a mirror, at least until a vehicle shows up and stops. If I don't like their closing rate, I'll flash my brake light a few times. If that doesn't work, then it's GTFO time, which luckily I've not had to do, which is good because I'd end up stopping and having a talk with said moron and I tend to get heated when my well being isn't being respected like I think it should be.
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

humm, i wounder since some cars have the super bright fog brake lite, if buell could add the same feature to the bikes?

that lady is a dumb ass. stupid stupid logic, kill the biker or have to get my fender fixed....kill the biker

if the rider wasn't in shock, there would have been a fatality
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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My wife worked with a guy who was killed on his bike. An 86 yr old man didn't see the light was red or that there was a line of cars waiting at that light. Literally impaled him into the SUV in front of him.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strange to read this post.

I just had my 2nd article published about my good buddy getting run over on his Buell.

Had to write it.

www.fromthehandlebars.com

"The Phone Call"
August issue.

Pardon the shameless plug- if you feel like buying some advertising, kewl.

i tried to represent the 1st and 3rd person's perspective per the prose.

T.U.R.D.

Tank Up Rubber Down
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