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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

after snaking all the braided oil lines through the crook and nannies of my M2, a couple of the lines are gonna rub on the frame in places they shouldn't . . . . first, they'll rub through the paint, then, they'll saw through the frame itse;f (OK, a slight exaggeration) . .. .

I've seen clear tubing slipped over braied lines, but can find any locally thus far . . .. . any ideas?

thanks
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber--I've had good luck with "shrink" tubing over the affected areas of the braided lines. Of course, you'll have to pull the lines back off to install it!

Can you say "duct tape?" ...I knew you could...

r-t
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

clear shrink tubing, thang? (and, luckily, I don't have to pull anything off . . . .. lines are only connected at one end thus far
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,
Any hardware or home supply store should have the clear tubing (Menards, HomeDepot, Farm&Fleet, FleetFarm, Sears, some WalMarts,...). Various sizes from 1/8"-2" diameter, buy an appropriate length, slice it down the side, slip it over, off you go. I even saw the tubing sold by the foot at a local Sears Yard/Stuff store here. I usually get a couple three or four feet of the 1/4"-3/8" diameter clear tubing and coil it up under the bike seat for a siphon hose sometimes.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,

Try a Wine or Beer Making supplies shop,

They sell the clear food grade plastic tubing from 1/4 inch up to 3/4 inch. I'd say some of that would work, its near indestructible and its cheap too.
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike/Newfie

thanks for the tips . . . .I remembered that a local hardware store carries that kinda stuff . . .think I'll try to find clear shrink tubing, though . . . .. it would be much thinner, and easier not to see . . . .the clear stuff I've seen round here has a wall thickness of approx 1/16 to 1/8 inch (or 17 furlongs, for Newfie)
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahhh Bomber,

Long may your big Jib Draw!!!
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey, bub, down here, guys don't mention each other's jibs, ya know? {grin}

clear heat shrink tubing is available from the fine folks at

https://www.partsexpress.com

good people, lots of stuff I don't know what it's for!
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber would a inner tube for like a 10 speed bike work???Cut it and slip it down the hose then tie straps at the ends???
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad . . . .I've used some stuff like that between the engine and swinarm block . . . .. I was looking for something the cover the hose where it crossed framerails and the like where you can see it . . . . . .clear shrink tubing is exactly what I needed!
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, that's two beers you owe me...

r-t
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

phew . . .glad we're not in Oz!
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Seeeu911
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heat turns the clear stuff yellow...
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, I kinda figured, but I'm hoping to get a couple of months outa it . . .. . .
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber, on my S1W I placed the braided lines in a slightly baggy black vinyl sheath. If memory serves, I think it came on the original lines to start with.

I placed cable ties at either end to help keep dirt out, making sure that the lower end was sufficiently placed so as not to retain water inside the wrap.

It worked very well and in any case it does not hide much of the visible braided line. Personally I'd stay away from the clear shrink wrap. What Donn said - and it looks cheap, never mind yellow!

Rocket
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Ferris
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket makes a great point about taking steps to keep the dirt and grit out of whatever you choose to use.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not only am I cheap, I'm easy, too.

r-t
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Nevco1
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber...Couldn't you buy or make some nice shiny stand-offs to align and position the oil lines away from the frame?

Obviously would cost more, but still an alternative. Just wondering...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Factory S.S. lines (Buell was the first to EVER use them on a production motorcycle, by the way) are covered with a plastic sort of coating.

The stumbling block is the U.S. Govt "whip test".

Tried a piece of slit down the middle and glued on rubber hose or some, as Buell calls it, "Rhino Tape" on the frame?
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

great suggestions, all, and thanks . . . .. I used the factory supplied "slightly baggy vinyl sheath" (great description, Rocker) for the aread between the swwingarm block and engine cases . . .

you guys have reminded me of the cable tie/vacuum hose standoffs (learned from pics of a NASCAR team years ago) . . . more cost effective than a nice shiney one (please don't ask me to explain why I want braided hose but not shiney standoffs . . . . taste is difficult to explain, yes?)

as for Court's citing a Whip Test, coupled with Rocket's mention of a Baggy Vinyl Sheath . . .. . . I'll leave that to others to wander off the page with (grin)

thang, what does it mean that no one picked up on your marketing effort (cheap AND easy)}
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahdunno, bomber...guess they just don't recognize real value when they see it!

r-c&e-t
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thang -- perhaps it's time to stop discussing features, and start touting benefits!
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Nevco1
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you guys have reminded me of the cable tie/vacuum hose standoffs (learned from pics of a NASCAR team years ago)

Bomber...if you find them, please post the website as I have a few uses for them.

Didn't really mean chrome. I was thinking of your use of custom fabricated aluminum parts that blend in so well with Ma Duece.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cable Tie Holders from McMaster.com
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hhhmmmmm . . . .how to illustrate with only word available . . .. .

in the following "Illustration," there is a frame member (lower right), an oil line (upper left) a 1/4 inch length of vacuum hose (in the middle) and a cable tie (arrowed lines) . . . .the tie goes from outside the oil line, through the vacuum hose, around the frame member, through the vacuum hose again, and around the oil line, until it connects to itself . . . .the vacuum hose acts as a standoff . . ..

make sense?

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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That works too. Plus you can carve the ends of the standoff tubing to better fit the contour of the tubes it is standing off from. Or words to that effect. Sort of like the old figure-8 cabletie flex joint with a tube at the apex/intersection. Water heater tubing might work good since it's fairly sturdy at shorter lengths. Not sure how abrasive it would be though, wouldn't want to give your bike a bunch of hickey marks on the powercoated frame paint.

I think I'll depart now back to the pedal realm before I get myself into trouble.
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber--your art is, um, really good, but don't give up your day job...

r-t
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thang . . . .. . . damnbetcha! grafik artists around the world sang when I was born, knowing that they're rice bowls were safe!
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