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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Meanness is a direct result of putting UP with stupidity.

It's not an exclusive trait of conservatives or liberals. Neither is stupidity.


quote:

Frank Zappa:
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.


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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIsG6DTJ80

(Message edited by johnnymceldoo on June 17, 2009)
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Hexangler
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What hypocrisy? Ensign, Limbaugh, shall I name more?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2009/06/17/AR2009061703117.html
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Jon
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm mean because my underwear is too tight.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're wrong Hex.

When a conservative makes a mistake and does things he says others shouldn't do, admits that it was wrong and apologizes, that is just a human being failing, as we all do. It isn't hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy is when you say one thing, do another, and see nothing wrong with it. See Al Gore.

That certainly doesn't seem to be the case here. "absolutely the worst thing that I've ever done in my life."
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What hypocrisy? Ensign, Limbaugh, shall I name more?

Don't see it as hypocrisy as much as people being susceptible to the same mistakes and lapses in judgment that they decry.

If you know something is wrong but do it anyway, it is hypocrisy?

If someone asked Ensign whether or not having an affair was wrong or not, I'm sure he'd tell you unequivocally that it is. It didn't stop him from having one.


Which is worse to set a standard for your self and others and fall short or to have no standards at all?

Odd that only Conservatives are ever hung with the title "hypocrite".


Rush? The guy got hooked on Oxy. He ain't the first. Won't be the last.


Why is it that someone who doesn't pay his taxes can be head of the Treasury Department and the IRS and not be called a hypocrite? How about someone who is the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee not understanding that income is taxable? How about someone who is an attorney lying under oath? How about someone who lies about what they were told by the CIA? What about someone who leaves their passenger in the car at the bottom of a body of water?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ft . . you forgot my gal Kathy from Kansas who . . . with ZERO experience stepped in to become (as if she magically clicked her heels together) Secretary of Health and Human Services.

She had her "little tax problem" (seems to be a prerequisite with this bunch) but since so many folks had turned down the position and it was unfilled after 8 weeks we had to have someone to talk about H1N1. She was a dandy . . let's face it she knows more about #7 Hard Red Winter Wheat than any health issues. I do enjoy the entertainment.

Statistically . . . it would be damn near impossible to randomly select this many unqualified folks from the general population without trying.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good fences make better neighbors....
Your first amendment rights end at the fenceline where my second amendment rights begin.
Polite company is best kept down range.

Conservatives arent mean, we're just tired of your whiney liberal heart pandering pathetic programs that you expect us to pay for. (oh and republican and conservative are not mutually exclusive)

Dont pester me, I am packin reloads while it is still legally can.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget putting "open borders" Janet Napolitano in charge of Homeland Security.

One of her first acts was to declare returning vets to be possible terrorist threats.

The bright side is that she is no longer our Governor.

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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you know something is wrong but do it anyway, it is hypocrisy?

Absolutely not, just as you said, a lapse in judgment.
But when someone with the public ear spouts off against such behaviors or lifestyles repeatedly and then commits them, that is hypocrisy regardless of the underlying circumstances.

I used to have no patience for hypocrites on any level but have learned with time, experience and temperament to forgive the repentant who are humble enough to admit the mistake as I have had to call myself to task for beliefs and convictions changed.

On some level we have all been guilty of this at some time or another in our lives. If anyone here believes otherwise they should call Heaven and complain about being booked in the wrong world.

As far as any one political faction being more hypocritical than another? PUH LEEZ! Show me any substantial proof of this phenomenon and I will send you your very own Unicorn or a screenplay even Ben Affleck could not muff up.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But when someone with the public ear spouts off against such behaviors or lifestyles repeatedly and then commits them, that is hypocrisy regardless of the underlying circumstances.

So as long as they don't say anything publicly, it's all good?

What if they don't speak publicly but instead work for a company or organization where their actions were in direct contravention of their role with this organization?


I used to have no patience for hypocrites on any level but have learned with time, experience and temperament to forgive the repentant who are humble enough to admit the mistake as I have had to call myself to task for beliefs and convictions changed.

Isn't that the crux of the issue?

If you have a lapse in judgement and seek forgiveness, I don't see you as being a hypocrite. If you do what you know is wrong and see nothing wrong with it, I'd say that you are a hypocrite.



I see Ensign as a person with a lapse in judgement (regardless of his past stance against sticking your wiener into an intern).

I see Charlie Rangel as a hypocrite.

I see Rush as having a moment of physical weakness.

I see Spitzer as a hypocrite.

I see Trent Lott as having a lapse in speech (don't believe him to be a closet racist).

I see David Letterman as a hypocrite.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But when someone with the public ear spouts off against such behaviors or lifestyles repeatedly and then commits them, that is hypocrisy regardless of the underlying circumstances.

So as long as they don't say anything publicly, it's all good?

What if they don't speak publicly but instead work for a company or organization where their actions were in direct contravention of their role with this organization?


THat is what I was also implying, but my articulation algorithm was apparently not loaded in the old kernel.




If you have a lapse in judgement and seek forgiveness, I don't see you as being a hypocrite. If you do what you know is wrong and see nothing wrong with it, I'd say that you are a hypocrite.
I agree .
My statement was more directed towards the "accidental/ victim of circumstance" hypocrite (Abraham Lincoln, Jefferson Davis) than the " I didn't mean to...." Like Rangel and Spitzer.

I discount people like Rush and Letterman to "for entertainment purposes only" status as with all other talk show hosts. If the rules applied to them, we would have to invent a new term just for that genre.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I cheated on my girlfriend when I was high school, it was a lapse in judgement. I knew it was wrong, I did it anyways, and I felt like crap long after.

When my stepmom smacks my stepbrother upside the head and says, "Don't hit" in response to him hitting his sister, that's hypocracy.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When my stepmom smacks my stepbrother upside the head and says, "Don't hit" in response to him hitting his sister, that's hypocracy.

That would be executive privilege.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, that's what she said at the time, lol.
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