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Indybuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2009/06/02/AR2009060200947_pf.html

Are you f'n kidding me? How long until they decide to "Wipe Israel off the face of the planet"?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Iran won't have nuclear power.

Israel won't allow it. They are just hoping that we step in so that they don't have to.

I don't know if anyone remembers a new blip at the end of 2008 where Israel had asked and been denied by the State Department to attack crucial nuclear cites in Iran.

The State Department refused to grant the attack.

Isreal, as a sovereign nation, doesn't need OUR permission to do anything. Israel asked the State Department so that the State Department COULD say no. This gives the US plausible deniability.

If Israel attacks Iranian nuclear cites, the US State Department has the ability to denounce the action and distance the US from Israel.

Israel WILL hit these cites.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty soon everybody will have nukes except us and Russia.
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Indybuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To be honest, why Israel is waiting, I will never understand.
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We could help them by sending them one or ours ; )
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually, Iran does have the right to nuclear power. The nuclear nonproliferation treaty provides for peaceful use. Iran is not a signatory of that treaty, but that is the standard they are being held to. The issue is that, as far as we can tell, Iran does not intend to use it for peaceful purposes. But BO's statement that Iran has the right use nuclear power for peaceful purposes is accurate.
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obama claims Iran has the right to peaceful nuclear power. So how about us? Why the F can't we have it then?

What a bozo!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Israel must wait until the program is at it's most critical and vulnerable state.

When nuclear programs are in their early development, they are decentralized, smaller scale, and mobile. As those programs progress, they require larger and larger fixed production cites for completion.

What were smaller, mobile enrichment sites are now becoming larger final assembly plants. The assembly plants represent the largest, most complex, most expensive, and least replaceable facets of a nuclear program.

The BEST time to destroy a program just before completion. The tricky part is the timing. If you miss everything, they rebuild. If you miss the timing, they have a workable weapon and you haven't destroyed anything.

I believe that Israel is watching the development VERY closely and has strike teams ready to go given certain development markers.

It'll be a win/win for Iran. If they successfully build a bomb, they alter the power structure in the region. If Israel succeeds in destroying the nuclear program, they get to create additional anti-Israeli foment in the region.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting that yesterday . . for a matter of hours . . . the feds accidently posted all the nuclear secret info on the internet including (formerly) secret storage locations.

Pros these folks are.
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Elsinore74
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the "accidental" posting was in fact 'complete,' it was no accident.

The feds are typically inept even in their ineptitude, so an accidental leak wouldn't have been complete.

Sleep tight, America.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Sleep tight, America."

If by "tight", you mean "stressed", I already do.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>The feds are typically inept even in their ineptitude, so an accidental leak wouldn't have been complete.

It was a complete TOP SECRET 264 page report.

At least. . . . ala the Clinton era, it wasn't carried out in someone's pants and socks and hidden away on a construction site for later collection by National Security Adviser Sandy Berger.
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Gsilvernale
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's "sites", not "cites"
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stoopid internet fingers. : |
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Gregtonn
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jerm,
I think you've been cited by the spelling police.

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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you expect. Americans voted for a man who's pastor believes America was rightly attacked on 9-11. He's half black though and speaks really well. Thats all it takes to lead this mooslim nation.
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