| Author | Message | ||
     Corporatemonkey |
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Highland-Park/370-Beech-S t-60035/home/17625146 Ironic the movie is on HBO as we speak. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
"which can never be duplicated"? What did I miss? Can you copyright a home design?$24,047.00/year property tax.......yikes! | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
Here is a better view of the garage courtesy of a recent Ferrari club get together http://www.flickr.com/photos/dancphotography/sets/ 72157618307384257/ Check out the rust  | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
What did I miss? In a lot of communities they would never allow a building permit for a hillside "stilt" house. Building codes have changed drastically over the last 50 years. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Thanks Corp.........but still,"In a lot of communities they would never allow a building permit for a hillside "stilt" house." Shouldn't that be up to the insurance company,not the community government.So what if it ends up in the ravine someday. The replica Ferrari did. If you can't build a stilt house,shouldn't the city buy this one and tear it down? I mean if it's not allowed.........I know,I stir it because of my ignorance....... | ||
| Xl1200r |
I think they need to learn what "cantilevered" means. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Since when has correct use of language interfered with, realty descriptions anywhere? | ||
| Fireboltwillie |
it isn't up to the insurance companies to decide. if it is structurally sound/feasible, and allowed by zoning, then it can be built. and the design is considered intellectual property. the house is owned by the owners, but the architect retains rights to the design. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Ah haa! So it is "copyrighted"............  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
all house plans are... Have you ever seen those big books of plans... and to get the contractor prints you pay, and you pay big. They all say that the drawings, renderings and concepts here in are copywrite protected by the architect.... DAMHIK | ||
| Fireboltwillie |
city, that is correct. of course, it doesn't stop people from have variations of plans they like drawn up. usually more trouble than it's worth to track down if you are the architect. and plan book designers, or those who design for cookie cutter subdivisions are not likely to prosecute. the one off custom homes, though, are easier to pinpoint. and even then, there are issues of proof, intent, etc. btw, i am an architect. | ||
| Kyrocket |
As far as building code and planning and zoning go you'd have to know what was on the books in '53. Most places didn't have zoning back in the day and today, if an engineer will sign off on it the building inspector will usually o.k. it. Right now the international building code allows for 1/3 cantilever, if you have a 12' board you can cantilever 3' out but my guess would be in 1953 if you could afford it, you could build it. Just imagine cleaning the windows. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Kyrocket - check your math. And the bottom line is nothing about that garage is cantilevered. It's just built on slitls over the ravene. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
ah a question for the resident architect... Why are all the houses so F'n big? I swear it is damn impossible to get a decent house that flows with around 1100 square feet. I have had better luck with 'pool houses' for the lifestyles and famous. I dont need a McMansion! Now a studio over a 2000 square ft garage might be good too. | ||
| Fireboltwillie |
city, most housing in this country is developer driven, meaning that the developer owns the subdivision and wants to sell into a certain price range. the trend for the past 10 years has been square footage. unfortunately what you get is a generous amount of square footage with little in terms of custom finishes. right now we have a large supply of oversized homes that are still overpriced. developers aren't the devil, they were trying to make money. it's just that they built to much. tie that in with homeowner associations, and the architect was left working within a narrow framework- houses had minimum sizes, a predetermined color scheme, materials, and general look. why do you think so many homes look alike across the country? oh i miss the good ole days when a person could just buy a lot and not be in a subdivision with an HOA! on top of that, the local government won't give you a permit until the HOA's design comittee signs off on the design. sort of like government sanctioned restriction on free speech/freedom of expression. but then they tell you that you don't have to live there. hmmm. enough of my mini rant. | ||
| Americanmadexb |
id take it if the Ferrari's come with it! | ||
| Kyrocket |
Just trying to see who's awake at the keyboard. Don't know why I put 12 in there, I was thinking of the latest inspection we had with a cantilever and it was a 9' board hanging out 2 1/2' for a window, he passed, could have come out another 6" and been alright. With a 12' board you could come out 5'  | ||
| Paw |
I think they need to learn if your going to sell a home for $2.3 mil you better have more than 5 acres and not 3/4 of an acre. I don't care what movie the house was in for that price it better have a lot of land with it and good privacy...3/4 of an acre for $2.3 mil and you have a neighbor right on top of you. I did see it said .75 or is it a typo and should say 75 acres? (Message edited by paw on May 28, 2009) | ||
| Doon |
paw. Location has something to do with it as well. I have a friend that builds McMansions  . 2.4 mil on about 1 acre of land in NJ, and has no problem selling them... | ||
| Paw |
I still think it is stupid to have a house the size of your lot of land and a neighbor right on top of you. JMO | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
Paw if you want to live anywhere near a city, even if you are extremely wealthy you will live on top of your neighbors. To have any land in a city is quite pricey. | ||
| J2blue |
Sad thought: The gentleman who originally owned this home must have passed. I met him while at this house along with a group of fellow architecture students in 1989. Our professor was from Chicago and had made friends with the owner and knew the original firm that designed it. He had plenty of stories about the filming for the movie. I was much less impressed with the architecture than the cars he had. I may be mistaken but I believe he had more cars than what he kept in this studio at any one time. He really got excited when any of us asked questions about the cars, even though we were there for the "architecture". The garage studio was the best part of the house and was absolutely spotless. I hope someone or some group can afford to purchase it and preserve it for posterity...and not just the movie. | ||
| Paw |
If I was extremely wealthy I would not waste my time on a house in or near a city I would live some miles away and commute (Varoooom Varoooom Motorcycles and a lot of them)...Like I said IMO...It is just dumb to step out your back door and end up in your neighbors living room. Not for me and never will be. Besides if I was that rich 3/4 of an acre would not be enough to hold my house and my garage!!! | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
Speaking of interesting homes While searching for an image for a project I came upon flickr photos of this house. I do not know the people, but I really like their garage. In his Flickr account the garage starts on page 20. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhunckler/page20/ Below is just an example of what is there...  |
