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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This time a .50 cal boom stick.

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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obvious compensation issues
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oops, forgot the ; )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What, no full auto?

Weak. : D
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At this particular shoot, after watching me run the pyro all day, they would not let me on the full auto.

I dont have video, but I got 2 words for ya:

Dillon Aero

(Message edited by barker on April 29, 2009)
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shooting a .50 was just about the most fun I had the whole time I was in the Army.

Grenades and LAW rockets were very disappointing. The SAW was fun but loud as hell.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Armored transport assault cannon?
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I want to shoot the saw, but all our saws @ the shop are props : (
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Cudajohn
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


I dont have video, but I got 2 words for ya:

Dillon Aero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ELhy4_0hM

Ahh yes, the GAU. Amazing to shoot, aren't they?

(Message edited by Cudajohn on April 29, 2009)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mmmmmmmm. Gau 8 + Depleted Uranium Rounds.

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Brumbear
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The MA-DUECE
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Bill0351
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like you had a lot of fun.

There was a .50 mounted on top of our M1114 "Big Truck." That's a nice piece of gear. We would find any excuse to fire it up. You can see it in the background of my profile pic.

My Dad has the semi-auto version like the one you fired, but I have never shot it. We are going to take it out this summer to some land we have up North and run some ammo through it. The local range banned his Barret because of noise complaints, so it looks like any .50 cal is going to have to be expended on private property.

My favorite piece of gear to fire was the SMAW though. It was like a bomb going off next to your head.

Bill
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know you've had fun when you had a M2 machine gun hangover the next morning.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how can you say grenade thumping with the M-203 is boring ?
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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

203 is boring if you have a mk-19
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Cudajohn
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trivia question for all you Soldiers, Sailors and Marines. Can you use 40 mm M203 rounds in a Mk19 or vice versa?

This is the most often asked question on boards it seems sometimes, I have heard about 5 different answers.

Also, I didn't know the Army used the 19? It sure is cool walking them in on target.

Barker, next time tell them to set up the tripod and give you some SLAP rounds.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hell my Army didn't even have humm V 's and the 203 was the shyt the MK 19 was james bond stuff back then
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Scottykrein
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can use M203 rounds in a MK19, but it would be difficult.

You can't use MK19 rounds in a 203.

The round is the same, but the MK19 rounds have different casings and more powder. Think of a .50 cal desert eagle vs a .50 cal M-2. Same bullet different shell case. it's a slight difference but it's there.
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Bill0351
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, the Army has the MK19. They had them when I deployed with the them in Iraq.

The cases for the MK19 have a link attached that it really hard to remove, and I think they are several millimeters longer than the 203 round.

I am willing to bet you could force a MK19 to fire a 203 round, but since it's a rimless cartridge, it could just as easily jump the extractor, get jammed in the chamber and have to be pushed out with a cleaning rod.

Even thought the rotational fuse wouldn't be armed yet, something about pounding a stuck HE out of there would make me nervous.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Compared to a .50, yea the 203 was BORING.

I was in rocket artillery (MLRS) and as cool as they look from the outside, its really sedate from in the launcher. Kinda like sitting in your car on the side of the interstate and having a semi pass you. A little whoosh and small shake is all there is.

The absolute coolest thing (to me) was the Vulcan. We were out in the field and had the AA guys set up on the other side of the dz from us. When they opened up on the drones, holy crap. It sounded like they were tearing a hole in the universe.

They say the miniguns they mount on ships for AA are more impressive, and if they are....WOW is all I can say.
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Bhillberg
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carried the SAW during my tour in Iraq. I have to say that it is an amazing weapon. Many complain about jamming but I kept mine clean and it was amazing, never let me down. Even after long AAV rides when it was caked in sand and I had to dismount and employ it quickly it always worked. I would take a small pause as early as I could and dust it off but if it had no CLP on it then the sand would fall off.......... that's when you drenched it in CLP
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm older n dinosaur crap so I have never seen modern systems...but I will say this...when a Spooky is flyin' a racetrack pattern with all systems on line...it's like the gates of hell just opened up...

But I love the "Hog"....a cannon with a plane wrapped around it...low and slow...real in your face...
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad you enjoyed the duece. Mortars are where it's at tho. I've been on the artillery line and yeah they're pretty sedate. Not even close to droppin rounds from a 120.

My next favorite is 240B. Damn that is a fine shooting hunk o death.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fast, I got to see Puff light it one time while doing a live fire exercise for some visiting Russian big wigs. I couldn't see the impact area but it sure was loud from about a mile away. It was also the only time I ever got to set off a whole 12 pack at one time from one of our lauchers...basically saturate a square click in under 7 seconds.....good stuff.

They had a Warthog doing some shooting too. That thing could flip around a put its cannon back on target faster than you would believe. I was glad they were on our side b/c between the hogs, apachees, and cobras, us ground guys would be TOAST.

I saw apachees out training more than anything else in my three years and when they are working together with a scout chopper out front it was "katie bar the door" for any armor out there. They would settle down in a small clearing just behind a ridge line or whatever they could find (buildings worked too) and let the scout pop its radar above the trees, pick out the targets and then all three apachees pop up and cut loose.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My buddy was the gunner on one of the trucks in Bill's profile pic. My buddy received the order to open fire on a Toyota pickup that blew through a check point. Apparently he completely shreaded this truck...the Iraqi walked out alive. How the hell does that happen?
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Bill0351
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My next favorite is 240B

We had the 240G in the USMC and the 250B in the Army.

It's a heavy pig to hump around, but I don't think I have ever seen one misfire. Our old M60s seemed to need clearing once every belt.

The 240 is like the .50 to me. I can see no reason to ever phase it out. It's medium machine gun perfection.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wanna shoot a Mini Gun.
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Stingaroo
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You ain't lyin, the .50 has been an equalizer for over 70 years. I find it odd my grandfather had 12 on his B-25 (8 forward firing) in WW2, my great uncle had 2 on his tank in Korea, my dad had one on his Jeep in Vietnam, and now I have a .50 on the Stryker! Being a Forward Observer I have to admit, there is nothing better than 60mm or 120mm mortars. 155mm Arty is alright, however 60mm are lighter, faster, and with a good gunner, very accurate. Having an Apache Longbow on station is always sweet when in a pinch...
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do not intend to thread jack but as a member of a nuke unit in the cold war days the pershing missile is the end all to f/a I for one am glad we never got to see what a 50 megaton med. range missile can do. On the other hand I went to the smithsonian 2 weeks ago and walk through the door in air and space and low and behold there one is holy crap. I was beeming with pride and my little guy was wide eyed Daddy that was your weapon in the ARMY?



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