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Gearhead
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, what was up with all the police and bomb squad at the show on Saturday?? When we pulled up to the show there were even police on the roof!

It was a little unnerving for all us Iowa boys!! The Triumph, Honda, Yamaha dealer chartered a tour bus so 45 of us made the trip, only 4 Buellers though. That's OK as it was a nice way to travel to Chi-Town (5 hours) without the hassle of traffic and parking.

The last two years we'd gone to the Minneaplois show so I was empressed that there were many more vendors but the crowd was wall to wall!!

Anyway, it's a nice break in an otherwise dull winter season.
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell could add some faux asphalt and faux wind (a fan) to their "leaning bike" displays, enough to fill a photo and make for some fun picture taking. I bet that would draw a BUNCH of interest. Maybe add a similar photo mockup featuring a wheelying and/or stopying Buell.

How's that sound Dyna?


I like it, sounds good. Especially the stoppie one. I would just like to see the displays updated instead of using the same ones year after year.

Hey, what was up with all the police and bomb squad at the show on Saturday?? When we pulled up to the show there were even police on the roof!

Ahh you saw the guy up on the north corner of the roof also. And when we were leaving we got right behind the Bomb squad complete with the deal they have on a trailer where they actually dispose of the bombs. Didnt really recall any heavy police presence in the building tho. They will leave that for 2 weeks from now when they have the swap meet at McCormick place, cops everywhere, get patted down before you go in, fun stuff.: D
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Nevco1
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Other than a million traffic cops with radios (Thank You Chicago) I must have missed the entire bomb squad thing.

I lay you odds it was a drill on how to search a building without causing mass hysteria. You know kind of a terrorist type thing. Probably gave them good practice for the trade show season at McCormick Place.

Well, at least I like to think that way. LOL

PS: Glad all the traffic cops were there, I never got in and out of that convention center so fast. Was really impressed.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Complaining about the Motorcycle Show!!!!!

At least you guys get one or can have easy access to a show!!
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never been to the Chicago IMS Show, But I go to the New York show every year, and I love it.After years of the pathetic shows that come to Boston, I went to the Javitts Center and saw what a real Motorcycle Show is supposed to be like. It's interesting to see the differences between the New York Show and the Chicago Show. In New York, I saw the RetroDucks, but not the Jesse James Hondabortion. I really like the Ducks. They look beautiful. Now, if they would get rid of that unnecessarily complex valve actuation system, and build an engine that's Real World practical, I'd think about getting one.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Tubers and the XB's share more parts than the Honda CBR1000 and the CBR954, for example, because while they share the same engine architecture, they share no parts at all.

Honda's sportbikes are taking their design/styling cues from the RC211V, for good reasons.
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty, I was hoping to see the retro Ducs, but alas we was deemed not worthy.

For the chicago show I would like to see them use a bigger portion of the center. It seems like a portion is always blocked off & then they setup a huge area for whatever the years demo team will be. Space the aisles a little more so you can actually walk around & not be squeezed by all the clowns who are checking out the stunt videos & the lastest No fear gear.

Overall I enjoy the show, but every year it seems like the bike portion is getting smaller & smaller, & the junk vendor section is expanding.
I want to see all of the new & exciting bikes that I read about in the magazines.

Whens the Minnesota show? Is it this coming weekend? If so, maybe I will make a run up there to check it out, its only about a 5-6 hr trip.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna:

I have, if I can find it, the Ducati Press Intro CD. Drop me an address and I'll try to get one burnt off.

If the package says "from Court" and it's ticking.....well...

: )
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Msg sent court, thanks.

Im not afraid of no ticking either. Remember I now know where the bomb squad truck is: D
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Xben9r
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gearhead,
All the police, dogs and secret service were there because the Vice-President was across the street and stayed at the Hyatt. I thought it was funny he had 200 people show up for his speech and at that very time there were aprox. 12,000 across the street at the show. Just tells me that someone has their priorities all messed up.... well 200 of them anyway.

Dyna,
Nice to meet you, if only briefly. You don't seem like as bad a guy as Court makes you out to be. Look forward to maybe hooking up for some miles sometime.

Ben
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ben..shhh, dont give my secret away.

Warm weather is coming & I am always around for an ride. I had no idea a group of the Iowa boys were going to show up.
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Coolice
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dyna thanks for the photos and info. I went into the show at about 11am the lines where HUGE. Headed for the back first and walked every aisle. Crowd kept growing. I agree the displays could be updated but just going to see all the new models under one roof is cool. This year the show was much bigger-displays all the way to the wall and the entertainment in a separate area. A great fix for a cold snowy Sunday in Illinois. The ball of steel was good, I remember those kids(if they are the same) from Daytona severals years ago setting up the ball just outside Daytona USA building. We left at 2pm and the crowd was lined up all the way to the front doors to buy tickets. I don't get too serious at this show cause the same show is at Daytona and its FREE. Just a great way to be around all the bikers and make plans for our trip in 20 days.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>You don't seem like as bad a guy as Court makes you out to be

I see you only spent a few moments with him.

: )
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>You don't seem like as bad a guy as Court makes you out to be

I see you only spent a few moments with him


Hmm, gonna have to find a way the next time we meet to get you back for that one: D
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

boooo, no retro duc . . . .. . booooo, no ATM . . .. .

wow . . .. . available discounts on Appies (2.5K cash dollara american) due to the "glut" of bikes in the states (this from a distributor person) . . . .

accessory and gear distributors down from previous years, too . .. . .

still, a great moto-fix in the middle of winter . . . . .

Nev . . ..tried repeated raising you in the building . . .. . . you and D (nice lady, btw), seemed to go poof!
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Grndskpr
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(Thank You Chicago)

Bill, those are Rosemont cops, most of whom are part time, i know a few to many
later
Roger
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rosemont Cops are not at all the same as Chicago Cops, as Roger sez . . . .huge differences . . .Rosemont Cops are far more like Chicago cops 30 years ago . . . .. .

If I ever become Grand Omnipotent Dictator, I'm gonna hire Disney to design Crowd Control Classes fro public servents . . ..
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Nevco1
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rosemont Cops are far more like Chicago cops 30 years ago

Too Funny. Back then I was dating a gal from Chicago whose uncle got his retired mom (her grandmother) to take a $25.0K second on her house so he could grease the right palms to get his promotion to Captain on the Chi-Town Force. Dang, and he was full blooded Irish! Wonder if that is still going on?

If I ever become Grand Omnipotent Dictator, I'm gonna hire Disney to design Crowd Control Classes fro public servents

Now there is a mental pic. Get 'em all dressed up as cartoon characters and have them pose with the kids and tell jokes to the adults waiting in line. LMAO

One of my CA friend's brother is in his late 40's and still doing the same job for Disney as he did as a kid. Street Sweeper on Main St. Wears a white uniform, pushes a trash barrel with a cute little broom and pan. Real wholesome look.

He claims the fun part is his role as curbside comedian before the parades but also admits the down side is fishing the soiled diapers out of the bushes. Seems a lot of folks are too lazy to use the trash bins much less go to the usually empty Gerber Baby (read: Diaper) Center which is right around the corner.

Then again, he has the typical wife, two kids in college and a fantastic home in Orange County. Betcha he has done way better than the majority of comedians during his career. LMAO
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

too true, bill . .. . . . however, every city in the world could learn frlom disney when it comes to moving lots of people from point A to point B, I'm thinkin
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Nevco1
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John...Think Monorail and Autopia. If you know Walt Disney's original concepts for them in the early 1950's it is really interesting.

As for crowd control at the facilities, it is phenomenal when you consider the varied approaches they use.

Next time we are together, remind me to tell you the story of Disney's Sex Cops. You are going to LYAO.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

José,
You got me thinking. I'm trying to come up with a part from an XB9R that is shared with a tube frame model. I don't have a parts book, but I'm coming up with nothing so far. I guess maybe some of the tranny pieces or engine bearings? Anyway, what is your point?
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 04:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

His point is I believe that the Japanese manufacturers do indeed do what Court claimed is (only?) true of Buell.

I understand Jose's point clearly. In fact, only last week in another topic I mentioned similar stuff in reference to production time scale and development of new motorcycles.

The Japanese have made a fine art of bringing new models to market year in year out, often new platforms too, which can be for a completely new model or a model that's had its name carried through to a new platform.

Buell have but two platforms, three if including the Blast, during the last 20 years, which means Court is talking out of his arse as usual.

Rocket


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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, I think the turn signals are the same as on a X1.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, you're blowing smoke. I see more than two platforms, and I'm far from an authority. If you mean one platform was the Tubers, and the other the Aluminum framers, then Honda has only had three platforms; stamped steel, tube frames and aluminum. And I guess BMW has only had three platforms in eighty-one years; the Airheads, the Flying Bricks and the Oilheads. The tube frames for the RR1000 is very different from an X1 frame. If you mean the engines, you might be a little closer; but the XR-1000 is quite a bit different from an Evo Sportster, and the RW750 motor is totally different. How much is an RS1200 like an M2?
Comparing Buells to Hondas is on a par with comparing red Delicious apples with figs.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Daves I think the bars are the same as a X1 as well.
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Csg_inc
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe the Primary Chain came from 1957 Sportster.

DAVE
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty you can believe anything you like. Even if you call the X1 a platform all on its own the point still remains that Buell have had but a handful of platforms in 20 years. Honda have about 200 platforms or more every year.

You're correct of course, one cannot shed any light from this comparison of Honda over Buell. I was merely making a mockery of Courts statement,

I do not know, but would venture that few manufaturers of anything have ever made such a drastic "ALL new" product.

Generally things evolve and change happens a step at a time.

Buell changed E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G in one fell swoop.


which of course is a complete croc of shit when you consider the Japanese do exactly this year on year but not only for their production street bikes, their race bikes too.

If anyone's blowing anything Crust, it's Court as usual blowing smoke up Buells arse.

Rocket
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wrist pin bushings, shifter shaft seal, and tail light bulb might interchange. not sure but i think they changed the primary chain for the 984.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I do not know, but would venture that few manufaturers of anything have ever made such a drastic "ALL new" product.

Care to venture a guess at how many parts the 2002 Buell and the 2004 share in common?

Try the same exercise for the "completely re-desinged" CBR600?

I hold no illusions of Buell being the only one TO do this. In fact, one of the GREATEST business stories of all time (any manufacturing industry) was when one Asian Motorcycle firm "dishonored" another and was rewarded with an overwhelming display of how fast the Japanese manufacturers can bring a new product to market.

Proof positive that is's essential to closely guard trade secrets. Honda has more people dedicated to answering phones than Harley-Davidson and Buell employee.

Court
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

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